If the Student was a White Female nobody would try to defend the Cop Slamming her

[JI7]

especially if the cop was black but even if the cop was white.

but again because the person is black there has to be a debate on whether it was right/wrong and whether she did anything wrong. even with the fucked up video .

and i'm tired of that racist former law enforcement bald guy that CNN always has to discuss matters involving the cops. he is always defending them and a fucking racist .

and what is with these white male cops who feel such rage towards black girls to attack them in this way.

[Luminous Animal]

1. Nope.

[tblue37]

2. Like Barrel Roll Eric Casebolt:

[akbacchus_BC]

3. It is shameless what that cop did to that student, but who cares?

Black lives never mattered and never will be. But I hope the movement will get some traction. It is the same old shit all over again about civil rights! Imagine in this century, blacks are being treated less than human beings. It makes me sick to my stomach. I had to turn CNN off when the powers that be justified that shit.

[Lisa D]

4. Nailed it.

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I'm so tired of the "She might have deserved it" mindset. IMO, if the student was a white female the cop would already be fired.

[Midnight Writer]

21. Another student claimed she was doing something with her cell phone

The teacher demanded that she surrender her phone. The student refused. Escalated from there until cop was called in.

By the way, the girl is still facing criminal charges. Also, another black girl student in the class at the time jumped up after the cop threw the girl and yelled at the teacher and cop. She was also cuffed, arrested and is facing charges.

A fellow student said the girl with the cell phone was quiet, shy and not disrupting the class, but she was receiving a message over her phone and refused to give the phone to the teacher, and then refused to leave the classroom.

[tecelote]

31. Since when did children stop being children?

No child should be cuffed and arrested short of having a gun in school.

Kids do dumb things and they learn from them. What we're teaching kids these days is to be afraid. But, I guess that's the point. Sheep are easier to corral.

[kcr]

39. And that matters because? n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. No doubt.

[enid602]

5. injuries?

Is there any news as to what injuries she might have sustained? Unless she's a professional stunt actor, I would think she has broken bones.

[Liberal Lolita]

27. Fractered arm, and other injuries

http://whotv.com/2015/10/27/outrage-after-south-carolina-officer-throws-arrests-student-in-classroom/

This article talks about facial cuts, and the fractured arm. In another story I read she has had neck, and back pain. She was treated at a hospital.

[Ed Suspicious]

6. I agree.

[virtualobserver]

7. Who in the world is defending the cop?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

13. I'm sure that somebody is...someplace...the cops are.

The deputy used excessive force.

That alone is clear. This LEO didn't know how to defuse the situation, and now we have another shit sandwich to feast on.

[passiveporcupine]

18. This is not the first thread on this

In the first one, there were many DU members that were saying "but but but, we cannot let the kids disrupt the classroom...it's not fair to the other kids"...as if that made it OK for the cop to do what he did.

It was actually pretty stunning to see how many people here spoke up (in anger?) against the girl. I don't think anyone actually defended the cop's outrageous actions, but they implied that "something had to be done". This is just me paraphrasing from my memory from last night.

[Scuba]

34. I saw that too and was appalled. On a "Democratic" board no less.

[ladyVet]

35. Blame women. Blame minorities. Blame poor people. Blame liberals.

Standard procedure here.

I'm not shocked, just saddened. It's the 21st century since some guy supposedly preached love and acceptance, and look where we are. Still.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. Sure something had to be done if she was disrupting.

Detention, suspention, expelling.

Assault? No.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

43. Link it, please. nt

[Iris]

19. 40% of viewers who participated in a local news station poll here

N/T

[Art_from_Ark]

25. Holy crap

That just boggles my mind

[Iris]

47. Yeah. I'm in hell today. I am so disgusted by human beings.

I mean, when did this country become so full of sheep?

[geek tragedy]

45. there's a few fascist badge sniffers cheering on the cop. nt

[zentrum]

8. Absolutely agree.

[drm604]

9. You are absolutely 1000% correct.

And I say that as an older white male.

When the victim is black, people look for reasons to blame the victim. I see it all the time. They don't even realize that they're doing it, but they are.

I wish I knew the answer. I think maybe the combination of the internet with cameras in everyone's pocket may be starting to wake people up.

[Logical]

10. Who here is defending him? nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. The other LEOs I believe, but what else is new?

[Logical]

15. True, cops protect other cops. nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

16. I grew up next door to a family where the father was a cop. A bad cop. Aggressive.

His sons were bullies.

I witness him beat his poor rail thin German Shepherd once.

Years later after they moved on a neighbor told my parents of how the kids would try to jump out the back window: to escape their own beating.

I felt sorry for those kids, and I wondered if they carried that aggressive trait to adulthood.


But I digress. The word was that the other LEOs knew he was bad, but they just kept silent.


Word gets around after a while.

[Bettie]

44. If they knew he was bad and kept silent

they are part of the problem too.

A cop is not a good cop if he or she keeps silent about bad ones.

[Curtis]

17. I am an ex Leo and am not defending his actions.

In fact, I recently had my mother and younger sister stop talking to me because I help out some of the groups like Cop Block. Until good cops speak out enmass about the abusive ones, there are no good cops.

Be careful of painting with such a large brush

[Iris]

20. thanks for sharing this and,for putting yourself out there.

I hate that doing the right thing is so often a lonely task.

[Jack Rabbit]

11. I agree.

I haven't seen the public conversation on blogs open to all comers, but I suppose the young is being called a thug by right wing morons with Donald Trump's image or the Stars and Bars for an avatar.

[whereisjustice]

12. American exceptionalism on display. What a sick fucking country. Kids sitting like zombies because

they know if they twitch the cop will shoot them.

[temporary311]

22. I'm not sure about nobody.

There are always those who will try to kiss the boot that's pressing down on their necks. There would be far fewer, though.

[SwankyXomb]

23. There are plenty of "people" here on DU

that will contort themselves to defend any action taken by kops.

[juajen]

24. That is a lie.

Color does not matter to me, that's plain abuse and not acceptable.

[kcr]

41. Because it doesn't matter to you, it won't possibly matter to anyone else?

It would be great if it worked that way, but no.

[chillfactor]

28. I am a teacher....

and while I do not defend the cop.....I have felt doing what he did myself many times....to begin with the student did not do what was asked of her by her teacher....you have to be in the classroom every day to see what teachers put up with....if I had done to teachers and misbehaved the way kids do today..I would have been expelled from school....kids today have no respect for teachers....kids are foul-mouthed, arrogant, abusive verbally, pay no attention to rules...and they know they can get way with it....What with laws as they are today schools are afraid to look side-wise at a kid for fear they will be sued...so kids get away with behavior that is disgusting and abusive...I am near retirement so I will hang in there...but schools have lost thousands of quality-teachers because teachers who thought teaching would be there life-time career are leaving teaching because they no longer wish to teach in insane asylums...many teachers leave school in tears many days, they get no support from administration...so why stay in an abusive atmosphere...

so many parents and people who have never taught in their lifetime......are so quick to judge teachers..how about spending a month in a classroom and then tell me how easy teachers have it in today's schools..

[B Calm]

29. +1

[Shankapotomus]

32. Were you ever body slammed

and dragged out of a classroom?

[DrDan]

33. thanks for this - it is a portrait identical to what I heard daily from my wife before she retired

I don't know why anyone would currently consider teaching as a career. I taught for 6 years decades ago - when the classroom environment was nothing like it is today. When I left for a corporate career, I felt the stress just melt away. Survival seems to be the common thread among teachers today.

[Democat]

38. You may be called an apologist if not a racist

On at least one other thread, any teachers who dares to suggest that some students are hard to deal with are being called authoritarian police apologists or worse.

[LanternWaste]

40. Creative allegation lacking support...

Creative allegation lacking support... unless of course, you merely read into other posts in such a way as to better validate your own biases.

[kcr]

42. And for good reason

Just as there are bad apples in the police force... Teachers who are so burned out that they think body slamming a studen like this is understandable and appropriate should retire. That a teacher would have that thought and think it appropriate to express out loud rather than feel shame or reflect upon it speaks volumes about that teacher. Time to retire.

[Starry Messenger]

49. With even my most difficult teen student I've never

considered having a cop come into the classroom.

No one says teachers have it easy, but making everything in your classroom into WW3 is hardly conducive to creating a good atmosphere either.

[Township75]

37. Not true. Nobody cares when poor whites people get a beating by the cops

You can even call refer to them as "white trash" on most media and you are fine.

[csziggy]

46. All the girl did was look at her phone

Tony Robinson Jr., who recorded the final moments, said it all began when the teacher asked the girl to hand over her phone during class. She refused, so he called an administrator, who summoned the officer.

"The administrator tried to get her to move and pleaded with her to get out of her seat," Robinson told WLTX. "She said she really hadn't done anything wrong. She said she took her phone out, but it was only for a quick second, you know, please, she was begging, apologetic."

Robinson said he pulled out his phone because he thought something was going to happen "that everyone else needs to see."

Lott said there have been school resource officers in the county ever since he has been sheriff for the last 19 years. He said the deputies have to receive more training and certification.
http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Sheriff-to-decide-if-deputy-keeps-job-after-6594942.php

She was not being disruptive, just non-compliant with a teacher's order. The actions of the teacher, administrator and cop were far more disruptive than a student pulling out her cell phone to check on a text she'd received.

In another story it was said that the girl is new to the school - maybe her previous school was not as strict about cell phones in the class rooms. In all the stories I've seen about this situation there are no claims that this girl was a frequent or habitual offender.

[LostOne4Ever]

48. Violence like that is never acceptable no matter a person's skin color

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=indigo]And the fact that you are absolutely correct, no one would defend him if she were white, is point of shame for our country![/font]