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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:42 PM May 2012

Lancaster County father, 2 sons die in Maryland manure pit


By CINDY STAUFFER
Lancaster Newspapers
Updated: 05/25/2012 07:42:06 AM EDT


A Lancaster County man and two of his sons died after apparently drowning in a manure pit Wednesday at a Maryland farm where they were working.

The victims were identified as Glen W. Nolt, 48, and his sons, Kelvin R. Nolt, 18, and Cleason S. Nolt, 14, all of the 900 block of Goshen Mill Road in Peach Bottom.

The three were reported missing Wednesday night at a large dairy farm in Kennedyville, Md., which is between Elkton and Chestertown, on the east side of the Chesapeake Bay.

The Nolts came to the farm to work each day in the early afternoon, and were last seen between 2 p.m. and 2:30 p.m. Wednesday, according to a press release from the Maryland State Police.

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http://www.ydr.com/living/ci_20707233/lancaster-county-father-2-sons-die-md-manure
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Lancaster County father, 2 sons die in Maryland manure pit (Original Post) cali May 2012 OP
Cow Pie OnionPower1 May 2012 #1
really? you think this is the occasion for a moronic joke? cali May 2012 #2
Who me? OnionPower1 May 2012 #4
reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit, dear. cali May 2012 #8
haha emilyg May 2012 #20
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #13
can I give you a medal? cali May 2012 #14
sleep well, sweet, sweet prince dionysus May 2012 #24
Oh shit malaise May 2012 #3
This is so sad , especially for the Relatives bahrbearian May 2012 #5
I agree. AverageJoe90 May 2012 #25
manure pits are very dangerous - asphyxiation nt lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #6
Can someone explain to a suburban kid what a "manure pit" is? Gidney N Cloyd May 2012 #7
You know how big factory farm operations have a lot of animals? flvegan May 2012 #9
here cali May 2012 #11
ugh Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #27
Well, I'll give a different answer than the other two here. harmonicon May 2012 #21
Here we are in 2012, and there are no new solutions for this manure situation Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #10
there is a great solution. veganlush May 2012 #15
Oh hush, you. flvegan May 2012 #19
Perfect solution. nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #23
There's lots of solutions, actually. TheWraith May 2012 #18
This is just sad. Broderick May 2012 #12
I think this is terribly sad. madaboutharry May 2012 #16
Ew, what a shitty way to die Electric Monk May 2012 #17
... madinmaryland May 2012 #22
Anyone recall the proposed regs on kids working on farms only weeks ago? freethought May 2012 #26
 

OnionPower1

(11 posts)
4. Who me?
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:56 PM
May 2012

You are the one who said honoring the dead this weekend was 'garbage.' I'm just taking your lead. I was also just noting the irony that on the day the president jokes about 'cow pies' to Iowa farmers - 3 real farmers actually die in manure. you have to admit that is weird.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit, dear.
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:07 PM
May 2012

and no, it's not weird that three farmers die in manure on a day that the president joked about cow pies.

 

emilyg

(22,742 posts)
20. haha
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:50 AM
May 2012

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bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
5. This is so sad , especially for the Relatives
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:59 PM
May 2012

My neighbors Daughter went missing during a snow storm, her car was found 3 days later in the lagoon that held the run off from milking barn of their dairy, she was 17 so sad.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,846 posts)
7. Can someone explain to a suburban kid what a "manure pit" is?
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:05 PM
May 2012

I know what manure and pits are but what's this all about?

flvegan

(64,411 posts)
9. You know how big factory farm operations have a lot of animals?
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:07 PM
May 2012

In one fairly small place at one time, 365 days a year?

Those animals make a lot of shit. Shit has to go somewhere.

I've had my share of experience with them. Not a fun thing to be around.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. here
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:10 PM
May 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_lagoon

the pit or lagoon where these people died held 2 million gallons. The fumes can overcome someone and then that person can fall into the pit and drown.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
21. Well, I'll give a different answer than the other two here.
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:54 AM
May 2012

I have no idea if it applies to the farm where these poor guys died though.

My family (mostly grandparents, and then uncles) ran a small dairy farm, and there was a manure pit there. It was a large concrete "pit", but with an angled entrance so that a tractor could drive into it when it wasn't full. It was next to the barns where the cows were kept. When the barns were cleaned (scooped/scraped out with a tractor), the manure was put in there, and then, when needed, taken out again to be used as fertilizer - this is why a tractor needs to be able to get in and out.

We were always told to stay well away from it, because it was dangerous - not that it took a lot of persuading, as it smelled terrible. The manure may not be what you'd think if you've never encountered it. It's not very solid - it's made out of all waste, you know? Kind of a disgusting slurry.

In any case, I had a clear picture in my mind of something like this when I read the story, though I may well be wrong, as those sort of farms are dying out (my uncles now just farm crops - they were too old to be bothered with all the work of dairy farmers, especially as the price they got for milk had been going down for decades).

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
10. Here we are in 2012, and there are no new solutions for this manure situation
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:09 PM
May 2012

And we're feeding livestock toxic trash.

I think the reason there are no good solutions to any of these things, is that we allow the corporate world to control these things, and for them the cheapest (for them) way to do things, is always the best. And no, they don't pass savings on to the consumer.

flvegan

(64,411 posts)
19. Oh hush, you.
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:03 PM
May 2012

Doing that does nothing but make people pale and sickly. And their bones rot. And a shrinking brain. And something about soy making men grow boobs. Besides, global warming is a farce and those animals want us to eat them.

Or something. I may not be up on the latest dumbass, anti-vegan meme out there.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
18. There's lots of solutions, actually.
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:45 PM
May 2012

Anaerobic digesters convert manure into green electricity, and even without those these farms turn around and use their manure to fertilize feed crops like field corn. They pump it out in the spring, spread it on the fields, and till it in.

madaboutharry

(40,217 posts)
16. I think this is terribly sad.
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:39 PM
May 2012

I also think it is disgraceful to joke about people's tragic deaths, especially the young boys.

freethought

(2,457 posts)
26. Anyone recall the proposed regs on kids working on farms only weeks ago?
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:47 PM
May 2012

The Dept. of Labor proposed rules for children working on agricultural farms. This was after research showed that 75% of job injuries to kids happened in/on farms and agriculture. The regs would not have applied if the kids were working on a farm owned by their parents.
Well, the right grabbed and ran with it. They marched out Sara Palin who immediately labelled it as typical federal overreach. Obama backpedaled.

So, now we have one father and two sons, all dead.

Working on a farm is no joke. Chances are you are going to be around powerful equipment that is more than capable of killing you. Or causing severe injury! One also may be around unpredictable animals. Many years ago I used work at a stable that bred Thoroughbred racehorses. That may not sound dangerous in an of itself but I can personally testify that things can go very wrong, very quickly. These racehorses are much stronger than you, they are very high-strung, and if spooked they can easily crush a human skull with a kick. Some of them spook at a twig snap!

It looks as if these men were overcome by fumes drifting of the manure pit, essentially a hazardous atmosphere. I also used to to hazmat/ environmental service work not all that long ago. One is required to have special training and make special preparations for doing work in hazardous atmospheres or confined spaces. ALL OF THESE MEN WERE OUT IN OPEN AND IT TOOK ALL THREE OF THEM!

What a tragedy!

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