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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:05 PM May 2012

Should President Obama go to Wisconsin to promote Tom Barrett against Walker?


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Should President Obama go to Wisconsin to promote Tom Barrett against Walker? (Original Post) onehandle May 2012 OP
He should have done it before now actually. This recall is extremely important to all Democrats, teddy51 May 2012 #1
Yes. ASAP. MrSlayer May 2012 #2
it could hurt by giving MR one more talking point over an issue that some MSM have already started maggiesfarmer May 2012 #7
No. undeterred May 2012 #3
I agree... cynatnite May 2012 #5
Exactly undeterred May 2012 #8
I totally agree. Send Joe!!! Ship of Fools May 2012 #22
Send Biden. n/t Peregrine Took May 2012 #4
not a bad idea.... madrchsod May 2012 #10
No! The Walker recall is rigged by BIG outside bucks that we the people can't match. OffWithTheirHeads May 2012 #6
Its not rigged. undeterred May 2012 #9
Do they vote by paper ballot in Wisconsin? nt Selatius May 2012 #19
The Repigs have not only RIGGED, but Prioritized.. dadchef May 2012 #24
Absolutely yes. The people of Wisconsin have put up a magnificent fight Vidar May 2012 #11
I am torn somewhat but still leaning nevergiveup May 2012 #12
Only if he believes in the cause. morningfog May 2012 #13
No. emilyg May 2012 #14
Yes, but only with a strong simple message.. tokenlib May 2012 #15
On the fence. But I find some of the names on the "yes" list quite interesting for reasons I'll.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #16
If it will help Barrett, sure. If not, no. BlueIris May 2012 #17
WI Recall is a bellweather for Fall 2012. PufPuf23 May 2012 #18
<Cenk voice>OF COOOOOOOURSE!!!!</Cenk> alp227 May 2012 #20
Other: Send Biden. n/t ellisonz May 2012 #21
No. GoCubsGo May 2012 #23
I'm sure it has been discussed. MineralMan May 2012 #25
 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
1. He should have done it before now actually. This recall is extremely important to all Democrats,
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:08 PM
May 2012

and needs all the help it can get.

maggiesfarmer

(297 posts)
7. it could hurt by giving MR one more talking point over an issue that some MSM have already started
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:18 PM
May 2012

spinning as something that wouldn't happen in a state without antiquated recall laws. yes, this is important to the Wisconsin Democrats, but less important to the DNC and to BHO than winning the 2nd term. he doesn't want to give MR a talking point over a distracting issue.

that being said, it could hurt, but I'd like to see him do it. if he does, I suspect it'll be the day before the election with no more than a 24 hour advance announcement.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
3. No.
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:13 PM
May 2012

This is a Wisconsin thing. Obama can come when he is campaigning for President and help with the fall elections.

This election has nothing to do with President Obama.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
5. I agree...
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:16 PM
May 2012

I think it would backfire in a major way. He'd be accused of meddling and then the whole campaign would turn into outsiders coming into our state kind of thing. What it was really about would be completely forgotten.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
8. Exactly
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

Obama is too big a figure to bring in for a recall election.

If he comes to Madison or Milwaukee to campaign for Tammy Baldwin and our congressional candidates in October that will be awesome.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
6. No! The Walker recall is rigged by BIG outside bucks that we the people can't match.
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:16 PM
May 2012

If he wins it will be because it was bought and paid for, not because of the will of the people. Does that mean that we the people will loose? Not necessarily (see Meg and Carly) but if Obama gets in and Barrett looses, the reich wing will have a field day. Better that Bill Clinton and Opra get into it. Better yet, the Dems start throwing big bucks at this to counter the Kochsuckers et al.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
9. Its not rigged.
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:32 PM
May 2012

People made up their minds about Walker a year ago. Nobody here needs to watch a television ad to be told to vote Walker out.

Every one who can be convinced is going to get out and vote to kick his ass out.

 

dadchef

(31 posts)
24. The Repigs have not only RIGGED, but Prioritized..
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:57 AM
May 2012

We have to look at this on a much bigger stage. The GOP have taken this ill advised situation and turned into a national statement. They recognized early on that they could force a showdown that they held the upper hand, the weakness of low turnout, summer, single issue elections. They are attempting to snatch a major victory from the jaws of minor, fluke defeat..

They regrouped, while we overreached..

With their new found gift from the Supreme Robes, giving them incredible fund raising capabilities, they could break the will of the movement that was fueled by the amazing outpouring of support they stirred up by their attempt to strip the unions, and the dwindling middle class of the last vestige of fairness..

Unfortunately, last year, the sleeping Democrat voters allowed a small number of committed Baggers to steal an election. However, that was a mistake that turned into a backlash that woke up the sleeping giant that had and still could have set the stage for a groundswell of support nationally..

We took that outpouring of outrage and used it properly in Ohio, to stop what they thought was their momentum..

Wisconsin, may have taken it too far, and if we aren't careful, they could make all their dreams come true..

The majority of middle Americans don't like recalls, or recounts, and few are really paying attention to politics, unlike us who drink minutia like Gatorade. The Brass in Washington better pay attention to the ramifications of this conundrum, if we lose this the morons will try to make a mountain out of a true molehill.. jus sayin..

Vidar

(18,335 posts)
11. Absolutely yes. The people of Wisconsin have put up a magnificent fight
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:30 PM
May 2012

against his monster, but they need help.

nevergiveup

(4,763 posts)
12. I am torn somewhat but still leaning
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:42 PM
May 2012

towards Obama staying away from a recall election. I do, however, think Ed Schultz made a good case this evening for Obama making an appearance.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
15. Yes, but only with a strong simple message..
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:15 AM
May 2012

Both Barrett and Walker spoke of "special interests" during the debate. Neither defined the term. If Obama goes, he needs to go in to support Barrett's special interest "the 99%", the workers of America against Walker's One Percent "special interest" crowd.

In the end what does the recall mean?? If a loss means that the GOP will start to steamroll over worker rights anywhere and everywhere--if it is that big a deal... Then I think on moral grounds it should have been an all out battle for justice from which it would be dereliction of duty to stay on the side-lines.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,238 posts)
16. On the fence. But I find some of the names on the "yes" list quite interesting for reasons I'll....
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:16 AM
May 2012

keep to myself.

PufPuf23

(8,821 posts)
18. WI Recall is a bellweather for Fall 2012.
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:31 AM
May 2012

They should get out their walking shoes and show Democratic Party unity.

Party leaders and DNC need to make a strong show of support for Barrett and against Walker.

alp227

(32,047 posts)
20. <Cenk voice>OF COOOOOOOURSE!!!!</Cenk>
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:55 AM
May 2012

if even someone like Palin can go out to endorse right wingers and turn on crowds why can't Obama do the same for (D) candidates?

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
23. No.
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:52 AM
May 2012

Any time the President inserts himself into something, or is dragged into it by some journalist asking his opinion about it, it becomes about him. This has nothing to do with President Obama. It has everything to do with a corrupt governor. And, if Walker wins, this will be spun as a "HUGE loss for Obama" from now until November. Who needs that shit?

Besides, the people of Wisconsin are doing fine on their own. They organized the recall without the help of the President. They gathered over a million signatures without his help. They held primaries without his help. To say that now they can't carry the ball across the goal line without him now is rather insulting to them, IMHO.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
25. I'm sure it has been discussed.
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:24 AM
May 2012

The President will be in Minnesota next Friday. Perhaps he'll drop in on Wisconsin during that visit. I don't know. It's a short drive to Hudson, and he might just do that.

However, I suspect that whether he should visit or not has been discussed thoroughly, with the discussion including the Wisconsin folks. I don't know what's been decided.

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