CNN to Jeb!: You blame Hilary for Benghazi, but say your brother is blameless for 9/11?

[deminks]

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/cnn-host-destroys-jeb-bush-you-blame-hillary-for-benghazi-but-insist-brother-blameless-for-911/

(snip)

“My brother responded to a crisis and united the country, he organized our country and he kept us safe,” the GOP hopeful told Tapper. “And there’s no denying that. And the great majority of Americans believe that. And I don’t know why he keeps bringing this up.”

Tapper wondered if Bush’s loyalty to his brother “might be in some ways a political or policy liability blinding you to mistakes he made.”

“It’s what you do after that matters,” Bush insisted. “Does anybody actually blame my brother for the attacks on 9/11? If they do, they’re totally marginalized in our society. It’s what he did afterwards that mattered, and I’m proud of him. And so are a bunch of other people.”

“Obviously al Qaeda was responsible for the terrorist attacks of 9/11,” the CNN host pressed. “But how do you respond to critics who ask if your brother and his administration bear no responsibility at all, how do you then make the jump that President Obama and Secretary Clinton are responsible for what happened at Benghazi?”

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[FreakinDJ]

1. The Patriot Act punishes US Citizens more then it helps to catch terrorist

[Proud Liberal Dem]

41. Mostly because, after all of the hoopla

Terrorist attacks against us have been relatively rare throughout our history (thankfully). Which, isn't to say that there isn't a legitimate threat but what (Bill) Clinton and Obama have done during their terms in office, in general in terms of fighting terrorism, has been more effective and less hysteria-driven than what the Bush (mis-)Administration and the MSM were doing during the 2000's IMHO.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. W: 'Alright, you've covered your ass.'

When you as PRESIDENT deliberately ignore intelligence warnings that Al Quaeda was going to strike in the US and simply blow them off, then YES, you share some of the blame for those attacks.

[napkinz]

7. ...

[DrBulldog]

23. Many Americans have forgotten this incredible bit of history.

Shame on us.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. Actually, Republicans are grooming a new generation of followers to believe their version.

[napkinz]

34. imagine if it happened under a Democratic president

[hifiguy]

45. Immediate impeachment.

Faster than you could blink.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

43. They WERE outraged

however that outrage was directed towards Bill Clinton, who hadn't been POTUS for 8 months before the attacks (and probably would've been more aggressive about thwarting it than Bush/Cheney apparently were). Now, Republicans have spent 2-3 years being perpetually outraged about a (yes) tragedy where four American diplomats lost their lives in an attack in Benghazi. Their "outrage" is always dialed way up on anything where a Democrat might be involved and is always severely disproportionate to what actually happens (kind of makes me wonder how healthy they can be remaining perpetually upset and angry all of the time. Can't be good for their hearts, right?).

[SusanaMontana41]

67. When Bill Clinton launched missiles into Afghanistan to kill bin Laden,

Republicans accused him of "wagging the dog."

[Fred Sanders]

3. Holy mother of...did Tapper really just get hit with a sudden on-set case of the Logic virus?

Get that man some treatment, stat!

Whether Bush was "to blame" or not - a useless exercise that generates Trutherism of which Trump is as well known a fan as Birtherism....the point is you can not deny blame for one and then assign blame for another based on whose political party you are blaming!

Does not compute!

[virtualobserver]

6. this expresses the difference between Democrats and Republicans

I have long held that if a Democrat was President during 9/11, he would have been removed from office.

I wouldn't even like to contemplate Republican behavior if this had happened to President Obama.

Republicans have no loyalty to this country when a Democrat is in charge.

Bill Clinton was more interested in getting Bin Laden in 1998 that George Bush was SIX MONTHS after 9/11.

[SusanaMontana41]

68. Check. Check. Check. Check. n/t

[ZX86]

4. What did Brother McChimpy say?

And who gave Tapper the permission to perform an act of journalism?

[ZX86]

14. Just caught the interview.

Tapper's follow up was weak. Very weak. He let Jeb! babble nonsense with no mention of the multiple warnings Bush ignored prior to 9/11.

Epic fail.

[Yallow]

19. Epic Fail Is Understatement - Complicity Is More Like It

Seriously

How did Bush get away with ignoring all those warnings?

[Midnight Writer]

61. His first reaction was stunned silence for several seconds

Then he blah-blahed about how the important thing was the FOLLOW UP to the terrorist attack.

He did not advance his argument well.

[SusanaMontana41]

69. Hard to tell what Jeb! said.

The guy talks in non sequiturs.

[PowerToThePeople]

5. "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US"

https://fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf

[MoonRiver]

8. Tapper was actually allowed to speak truth to power!?!

POB must be trying to bring down Bush.

[malaise]

9. His brother reacted to a crisis- not one fuck of that

His brother reacted to an attack on the country which left close to 3,000 Americans dead and then used fear to increase the power of his administration and violate international laws, treaties and conventions.

Go Cheney youself JebusEnoughFuggingBushes!!

[SunSeeker]

15. “It’s what you do after that matters,” Bush insisted.

Does he realize that statement is even MORE damning to his brother?

And how about what the GOP did after Benghazi? They used the tragedy as their excuse to conduct the longest congressional special investigation in US history for the admitted reason to bring down a Democratic presidential candidate's poll numbers. And spent millions of dollars on that opp research fishing expedition on behalf of the RNC rather than on increased security for US embassies.

[MurrayDelph]

25. His brother reacted to the crisis

by ignoring the warnings beforehand, sitting on his ass looking stupid during, hiding until they were sure it was safe afterwards, and then coming out and swaggering long after it was over.

It's cute when a puppy does it; an alleged President, not so much.

[Baitball Blogger]

10. We were so NOT united.

More likely, we were abused into submission.

[Boomerproud]

37. Amen!!!

Nothing more to add to that. The Democrats who were/are supposed to be our voice allowed themselves to be abused into submission too.

[GP6971]

51. With the exception of Robert Byrd of WV

[global1]

11. "I'm Proud Of Him. And So Are A Bunch Of Other People"......

Essentially he is speaking of the 'military industrial complex', the 'oil companies', Halliburton, etc.

The ones that sucked all the money out of our economy and set it up for the crash. Yes Jeb - those are the ones that are proud of your brother. You have to be proud of him because he is your brother. We want him to pay for his lies and war crimes.

Let's face it Jeb - you've lost. Why don't you just ride off in the sunset and leave us all alone.

[SunSeeker]

12. Boom! (mic drop)

Holy shit. Not used to that from the MSM.

[Duval]

13. When will we hold W's administration

accountable for egregious lapses in judgment and blatant lies to the People? I hope to see it happen in my lifetime.

[TeeYiYi]

16. Bunches and bunches...

...veritable scads of people, I'm guessing... I believe you. Why not? Bunches and scads; gaggles and hordes...

re: "...and I’m proud of him. And so are a bunch of other people.”

TYY

[ProfessorGAC]

53. How Many Zeroes In A Scad?

Or in a bunch? This is dictionary CYA by him.

[KansDem]

17. Lying asshole!

Hey, Jebbie! Call for the release the 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 Commission report and we'll see how "safe" your brother kept us!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

18. Ouch!!!

That's going to leave mark.

[thesquanderer]

20. And look where he went in the next paragraph...

Bush stammered in response: “Well, I — the question on Benghazi, which we will now finally get the truth to, is was the place secure? They had a responsibility at the Department of State to have proper security.”

And who had the responsibility on 9/11 for protecting the Pentagon? And how could they have been so badly equipped to protect it even 30+ minutes after they knew the country was under attack?

Yes, Jeb, please continue.

(If only CNN had followed up like that...)

[ruffburr]

21. Totally marginalized-

By design just as planned , Read the P.N.A.C Document ( the original not redacted version) draw your own conclusions, Coupled with all that's happened since it speaks volumes about W and his cohorts.

[Octafish]

33. !

Blaming BFEE for anything is taboo.

[YoungDemCA]

49. Don't confuse "anything" with "everything"

nt

[DrBulldog]

22. Remember what W told that persistent and annoying CIA briefer in the Oval Office . . .

. . . who had just warned him of an imminent al-Qaeda attack in the United States just weeks before 9/11?

"O.K. You've covered your ass. You can go now."

And Condeleezza Rice was right there in the room as well - and she simply proceeded to dismiss the report.

We Americans should NEVER forgot critical little bits of documented history such as this one - they tell us everything about the competency and mentality of the people concerned.

[AgentStepford]

64. Hence the "marginalization"...

It's not very Merican to have a working memory.

It is our (tacet) job to buy stuff and distract ourselves with pointless hookups in the moments of free time we can manage to wrest away from making ends meet. To elucidate the tragedy of all the various modes of inequality only brings down the mood of the desperately hobbled together social event.

[craigmatic]

24. bush was not only responsible for not stopping 9/11 but using it to get thousands more Americans

killed in his war of choice in Iraq.

[zentrum]

26. The Iraq War

…is how he "responded" and we and the whole world are hugely more unsafe because of it.

Bushes are always a disaster.

[EEO]

27. Hypocrisy aside, I don't think he knows what the definition of "safe" is.

Jeb Admits He Didn't Know Definition of "Safe" Until Today
http://www.theniladmirari.com/2015/10/jeb-bush-did-not-know-definition-of-safe-911-gwb.html

[malaise]

58. Bookmarking that website

That was delish

WASHINGTON (The Nil Admirari) - Earlier today, Republican presidential candidate and former Governor of Florida Jeb Bush confessed he didn't actually know what the word "safe" meant until today. The revealing admission followed Jeb's incessant statements asserting his brother - former President George W. Bush - "kept us safe" despite nearly 3,000 Americans being killed in the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

"I think it is clear that I didn't actually know what the word 'safe' meant until today. This morning, one of my campaign staffers did a Moogle search or something, and finally showed me what the definition of 'safe' is," explained Bush, who appeared to be fascinated by the ease with which all his confusion had been remedied.

[Gothmog]

28. Jeb gave a weak answer

[virtualobserver]

29. he is ill equipped to win a cage match with someone who doesn't care about political death

It is amazing how weak all of them look.....even Trump

[Gothmog]

32. The conservatives kept claiming that this was a strong field

That claim was pure BS. There were a large number of GOP candidates running because the field was so very very weak. The weakness of this field explains how three idiots (Trump, Carson and Fiorina) are doing so well.

[polynomial]

31. The Cat and the Canary

Getting a good movie on free air television is rare, besides the programming is decades of reruns. But on local Chicago television the movie called “The Cat and the Canary” played in the afternoon hour with Bob Hope rattling off jokes.

This was a haunted house scenario, from a series called Ghost breakers one of the movie script jokes was about Republicans circa 1930.

Bob Hope said “Oh they say they are going to bring the dead back to life, you must be talking about Republicans.”

I just got a kick out that line it rings true to this day.

Oh Jeb, you mean 911 was not George Bush’s fault, look a little closer, all will agree George held the door open for the Arabs to get in the country and Jeb redacted all the federal files that helped the Arab Bin Laden family get out of the country.

Ladies and gentlemen of America welcome to the GOP political Georgie/ Jeb show in decades of profiteering, swindling, lies, cover ups torture, and metadata freelancing. All with the help of the American Broadcasting system and likely very powerful Arab/European money influence.


Jeb avoids the obvious cover-up that is real true treason. The Bush Crime Inc. family has been close friends and business partners with the Bin Laden for decades this is the same family of the architect of terror, torture, and 911, an Arab Osama Bin Laden.

The basic fault is the America citizen is not being serviced honestly by the network that is licensed to do so. Listening to Jeb or George and letting the Bush Crime Inc. family get away with the greatest political crime swindle in the history of America is a basic across the board suppression by the media. The media is the key player of the military industrial complex.

The intentional fear and terror, and waterboarding torture imposed during this era is a deranged and unconstitutional political show that will always haunt the Republican Party forever.

[Beacool]

48. I saw that movie last night on Svengoolie (Me-TV).

Bob Hope and Paulette Goddard starred. I recall the line and I laughed when Hope said it.

[napkinz]

35. hey Jeb, it was Hillary who warned Republicans!

[deminks]

36. Thank you! nt

[napkinz]

40. you're welcome ... Republicans need to be informed/reminded they had been warned

[katmille]

60. I wish you would send this to Andrea Mitchell at MSNBC

And Chuck Todd at NBC NEWS. These So-called journalists never seem to know how to follow up on an inane statement.

[Blasphemer]

38. It has taken 14 years for the M$M to ask a member of Bushco about the W's failures prior to 9/11

Better late than never I suppose. Hopefully, this will keep them out of power for a long, long time.

[Initech]

39. Truly disgusting that the right wing gets a pass for 9/11...

While the left is the subject of hundreds of investigations launched into Benghazi. Four people died in a foreign country. 3,600 died on American soil yet we couldn't impeach or arrest those that allowed it to happen in the first place.

[billhicks76]

52. Left Wing Cowards

For being afraid of the truth because it was so damning. Bush PURPOSEFULLY allowed 911 to happen. If people said it louder we wouldn't have had an Iraq War.

[lpbk2713]

42. Damn I wish KO was still on MSRNC

All these golden opportunities and not even a peep.

Obviously that how MSRNC wants it.

[napkinz]

44. posted by alp227 last week ...

Exclusive: NBC’s Andy Lack to Meet with Keith Olbermann on Possible MSNBC Return

http://www.mediaite.com/online/exclusive-nbcs-andy-lack-to-meet-with-keith-olbermann-on-possible-msnbc-return/

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141226050

[lpbk2713]

46. He can probably write his own ticket as far as pay goes.

He is bound to improve their ratings if he decides to go with them.

[Beacool]

47. I laughed out loud when I read Tapper's question.

Ahhh, the hypocrisy........

[spanone]

50. K&R...

[Shadowflash]

54. Saying dubya kept us safe

Is like the Secret service saying they kept JFK safe. All except that ONE time.

[Jester Messiah]

55. What? I thought actual journalism was outlawed!

Dang, it's good to see somebody calling these idiots on their idiocy.

[ctsnowman]

56. Excellent!

[BlueMTexpat]

57. And 9-11 actually took place INSIDE the

US - in its largest metropolitan area.

Benghazi happened in a place most Americans never even heard of ... and many still don't know where it is. For that matter, some still don't even know where Iraq and Afghanistan are.

Per the record, Bush II knew full well about 9-11 in advance. There are lots of other reasons to doubt the "official" story and perhaps some day, we will all know more.

Also per the record, GOPer cuts in embassy security more directly resulted in the Benghazi tragedy than any single other cause.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

59. "If they do, they’re totally marginalized in our society." ... But we can speculate ALL DAY that

they STOLE the 2000 election and everyone's fine with that?

[WinkyDink]

62. AFTER?? HOW'S THIS 12/01 REMARK: "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me."

[napkinz]

63. kick

[Marr]

65. “It’s what you do after that matters".

I can think of 3600 or so people who would disagree with that. God, what gall that takes.

Besides, what he did after was to deceitfully tie 9-11 to Iraq so he could get his profitable war on. So... yeah.

[napkinz]

66. ...