To those arguing for the prosecution of Bush officials:

[F4lconF16]

Are you prepared to call for prosecution of the Obama administration for their war crimes?

I am.

These drone strikes are not legal under US or International law. And that should be the end of that.

War crimes are war crimes no matter the perpetrator.

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10921

http://warcriminalswatch.org

http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php/obama

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a14627/obama-lethal-presidency-0812/

Please read the entire esquire article. While not discussing war crimes per say, it does give one hell of a perspective on the cold lethality of the Obama administration.

[daleanime]

1. I think a lot of people in jail should be free....

and a few who are free should be in jail.


In other words, I have no problem with putting war criminals in jail. No matter when they committed their crime.

[Punx]

18. One in jail that should go free

Is Don Siegelman for starters.

[hifiguy]

2. I would have no problem with it.

The evidence speaks for itself. Whoever is responsible for the MSF bombing belongs in jail for a crime against humanity, no matter how highly placed.

[SamKnause]

3. That is a very easy question for me to answer.

Yes.

[Maedhros]

4. I certainly am.

Obama's indifference to civilian casualties infuriates me.

[F4lconF16]

20. Obama's indifference to casualties infuriates me.

As does "venimus, vidimus, et mortuus est".

Damn the whole lot of them. Life is too precious to be wasted in such a horrible display of callousness.

[newfie11]

5. Yes, this needs to stop nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. YES. I am prepared to call for prosecution of the Obama admin. for their war crimes.

Silence on our part is consent.

[F4lconF16]

21. Silence is consent.

Thank you. Powerful words.

Even if we don't jail them, we cannot allow this to be forgotten.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

23. It's not original with me. I don't remember who said it.

I'll Google it.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

26. Thomas More in A Man For All Seasons was the origin of that phrase. n/t

[F4lconF16]

27. Cool! I'll look it up :) thanks! Nt

[Rex]

7. How about we start with Bush and Cheney and see how that goes?

First things first. We know Bush/Cheney approved of torture...good place to start.

[dreamnightwind]

9. But the torture is not ongoing, the drone killings are

It might be possible to argue that some torture is still going on, but the widescale Abu-Graib stuff has beem shut down, as far as I know. The drone killings not only continue, but have escalated under Obama. Sadly, even Hillary and Bernie plan to continue this.

How to stop it? We appear to have no mechanism to top it except for the legal system, our political party is fully entrenched in the war on terror remote killing effort.

I have hope that Bernie would do less of it, but even he uses the drone program as a more acceptable alternative to boots on the ground.

Perhaps it would be foolish to simply cease the drone program altogether. My feeling is we need to disengage from Middle East conflicts, work crazy hard to retool our economy to get off of fossil fuels, and we will have less need for any kind of "kill them over there before they kill us over here" approach.

[F4lconF16]

24. My biggest worry with Sanders is his willingness to give in to the MIC.

He's not a socialist. That involves a lot of compromises with the war industry and imperialism.

[dreamnightwind]

28. agreed, he's better than any of our other options re MIC though

so it's hardly fair to be criticizing him in that regard. Good to push him to be better on it, I'm all for that.

Bernie strongly spoke out and voted against the Iraq war, and opposed the Patriot Act. He gets a lot of criticism for getting the fighter jet made in Vermont, but his reply to that, and I have seen no contrary evidence, is that he opposes the fighter, but once it was a done deal to build the fighter, he fought to have it built in Vermont because his constituents need jobs, so at that point he was just fighting to have the jobs in his state rather than someone else's state, and if that is correct I have no real problem with it.

He's truly one of the best we have when it comes to opposing the MIC, though for people like us that still isn't good enough and we should keep pressing on that issue, so long as we're not undermining his chances in favor of someone who is worse.

[bvar22]

10. Initially, Obama had the opportunity to separate himself from these crimes.

....but he didn't.
Instead, he co-signed the War Crimes along with the rest of the Democratic Leadership.
That makes them ALL accessories to War Crimes......and probably why we will see no prosecutions unless we elect a 3rd Party.

The WARS now have bi-partisan ownership.
This will be an indelible blob in the middle of Obama's legacy.

[hifiguy]

15. /\ SO MUCH THIS /\ nt

[KoKo]

17. yes...this was very disappointing....

We've given him a break on this now for almost two-terms.

What are we going to do to get the Next Dem Administration to listen this?

[F4lconF16]

22. How about we start with all of them.

Why should one take priority?

Only one has the ability to directly kill innocents right now.

[LostOne4Ever]

8. Damn it! Quit telling people the truth! nt

[bvar22]

11. Just as the VietNam War has badly tarnished LBJs legacy,

so to will these unnecessary WARS follow Obama as HIS legacy for the rest of his life.

[Hydra]

13. His legacy will be keeping Bushco safe and operating

Not quite the Lincoln he was publicly claiming he was shooting for.

[Hydra]

12. I've been for this since the day Obama picked up Bushco's operation and continued it

The law is the law- if it's not, then all of our posturing about any kind of values we have is hollow.

[F4lconF16]

25. Ah but we can't win if we don't sacrifice everything we stand for!

/sarcasm

If one believes in a liberal interpretation of the law (and to be clear, I don't) one better make sure that the law applies equally to all.

Too bad that's pretty much impossible under liberalism.

[Skittles]

14. YES AND YES

[KoKo]

16. Thanks...Bookmarking for Full Article Read......

[rug]

19. A fair qestion.