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Portraits of the real Welfare Queens and " Free Stuff " recipients (Original Post) Mira Sep 2015 OP
The right wing has people so focused on the welfare queens and blind to this liberal N proud Sep 2015 #1
and we know that "welfare queens" was code for "black women"... KittyWampus Sep 2015 #3
Echo that - welfare has always been code for blacks packman Sep 2015 #14
the palins are the Alaskan Grifters Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #24
The world was a nicer place before we heard about her. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #30
yes Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #41
Now the immigrants are taking center stage passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #37
K&R..... daleanime Sep 2015 #2
K & R. This needs to be said over & over until it's understood by the uninformed somehow. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #4
The two leading Democratic candidates differ 180 degrees on whether or not we rhett o rick Sep 2015 #22
It would be nice if it worked like that Cosmocat Sep 2015 #28
K&R raouldukelives Sep 2015 #5
People are too dumb to realize this. Mr.Bill Sep 2015 #6
Republicans love giving Rich people FREE STUFF! WDIM Sep 2015 #7
Do we really need any more proof... gregcrawford Sep 2015 #8
There is something indecent about these uber rich elites complaining about the very small stipends fasttense Sep 2015 #9
And that doesn't count the constant dae Sep 2015 #10
All the dicks in this picture.... V0ltairesGh0st Sep 2015 #11
Plus, the TRILLIONS we give Defense Contractors to sustain endless war? tecelote Sep 2015 #12
Amen..... daleanime Sep 2015 #18
"Cost Plus" Enthusiast Sep 2015 #27
I don't know if you know this... Indydem Sep 2015 #13
good read to go along with that... handmade34 Sep 2015 #15
The "Free Stuff" meme was started by racist republicans. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #31
K & R SoapBox Sep 2015 #16
This obsessive focus on "free stuff" is a manifestation of racism YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #17
Exactly - comment recommended - n/t Mira Sep 2015 #19
It's funny, but it really is not the that Republicans are silent on the trillions that are rladdi Sep 2015 #20
k and r niyad Sep 2015 #21
kick Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #23
Kicked and recommended for maximum exposure. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #25
Kind of related mac2766 Sep 2015 #26
the welfare KINGS. need to reaganize them. but sadly they are not BLACK. reagan used RACISM. pansypoo53219 Sep 2015 #29
Amen k&r DesertRat Sep 2015 #32
Word. kestrel91316 Sep 2015 #33
K&R Paka Sep 2015 #34
Each one of those people are ugly on the inside and outside. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #35
Masters of the Snob Scowl sorechasm Sep 2015 #39
K&R 1000%!!! wolfie001 Sep 2015 #36
But, but, but, a rising tide... rbnyc Sep 2015 #38
Trump claims he's take care of this too! IronLionZion Sep 2015 #40
Sane people have a built-in bullshit-detector Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #42
Kickety rec. hifiguy Sep 2015 #43

liberal N proud

(60,346 posts)
1. The right wing has people so focused on the welfare queens and blind to this
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:08 AM
Sep 2015

Simple math people, simple math.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. and we know that "welfare queens" was code for "black women"...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:16 AM
Sep 2015

so it once again boils down the right wing and their southern strategy of using racism to their benefit.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
14. Echo that - welfare has always been code for blacks
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 11:00 AM
Sep 2015

But there are exceptions:

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appalachiablue

(41,174 posts)
4. K & R. This needs to be said over & over until it's understood by the uninformed somehow.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:25 AM
Sep 2015

FREE STUFF for Bankers, Corporations, entire Industries and major tax evasion. For decades massive Corporate Welfare.
~ If there must be trouble, let it be in my time, that my child may have peace. ~ Thomas Paine.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
22. The two leading Democratic candidates differ 180 degrees on whether or not we
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 02:16 PM
Sep 2015

should continue to subsidize big corporations. Sen Sanders has made it very clear where he stands. H. Clinton waffles.

Cosmocat

(14,573 posts)
28. It would be nice if it worked like that
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:10 PM
Sep 2015

dumb ass political views are like substance abuse.

Everyone in the world can tell you that you have a drug problem and it won't make a bit of difference until you have a personal moment of reality relative to it.

My experience is that you can't talk people who buy right wing bullshit out of thinking it makes sense, because they WANT to believe it.

Not sure what can be done about it ...

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
5. K&R
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:35 AM
Sep 2015

Gotta keep those shareholders happy. They don't mind socialism for themselves, just when those unaffiliated with Wall St get a taste.

Thanks to the tireless efforts of well funded corporate lobbyists, investors will be the last to worry about dealing with the harsh realities they are crafting each day.

Mr.Bill

(24,328 posts)
6. People are too dumb to realize this.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:36 AM
Sep 2015

And even if they did realize it, they will be dumb enough to believe that Donald Trump will fix it.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
8. Do we really need any more proof...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:38 AM
Sep 2015

... that corporatists have infiltrated, and now control, every aspect of our government? Living in a corporatist hellscape is not some future abstraction, we're living in it right NOW! "Job Creators," my lily-white rump.

The magnitude of their evil can only be calculated in astronomical terms, and they deserve no mercy whatsoever. Jail them for crimes against humanity, throw away the key, and then rewrite the laws of corporate governance so that EVERY corporation MUST be a B-corporation, or they cannot do business in this country.

Burial in a toxic waste dump would be too good for this pack of psychopaths.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
9. There is something indecent about these uber rich elites complaining about the very small stipends
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:10 AM
Sep 2015

given to the poor. It's as if they are going around snatching back change a good Samaritan has given to beggars. I picture them grabbing lollipops out of the sticky hands of infants.

The uber rich today are more vile and disgusting than most of the criminals in our prisons.

dae

(3,396 posts)
10. And that doesn't count the constant
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:11 AM
Sep 2015

screwing from the ever so popular military-indusrtial complex.

 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
11. All the dicks in this picture....
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:31 AM
Sep 2015

these banksters.... please can we put them on trial for crimes against humanity NOW !!!

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
12. Plus, the TRILLIONS we give Defense Contractors to sustain endless war?
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:46 AM
Sep 2015

Immoral on so many accounts.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
13. I don't know if you know this...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:56 AM
Sep 2015

But this line of argument and these memes do not fly very well with the general public. Sure, they play great here on the DU, which had been taken over by the types of people who think this way, but the mainstream does not.

If you tell a corporation that instead of $10 billion in taxes, they only need to pay $5 billion - that isn't a subsidy. That's a tax reduction. The word subsidy has a very specific meaning. I suggest you learn what it is before you throw it around.

Now if you do give a business a subsidy (GE, ATT, Verizon, AEP, et al.) because you want them to perform a task that they otherwise would not (build wind turbines, build out high speed wireless infrastructure, install wind turbines and solar) then it's awful dumb and wasteful to then attack and lambaste them for doing exactly what you asked them to do.

Some people will never learn. I suspect that anyone who thinks that we hand corporations billions of dollars out of the public trust for no reason are amongst that group.

handmade34

(22,758 posts)
15. good read to go along with that...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 11:11 AM
Sep 2015



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/problem-with-government-handouts.html

Attacking free stuff and handouts and giveaways is an explicit way of attacking the safety net, then, but also a slippery way of attacking the whole idea of progressivity.

The meme treats the poor as undeserving, rather than deserving. And as such, “free stuff” generally means “stuff going to groups of people that I don’t care about, or groups of people I want to shame for their financial situation.”
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
31. The "Free Stuff" meme was started by racist republicans.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:00 PM
Sep 2015

Either racist against the President, or racist against people that are poor and down on their luck.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
17. This obsessive focus on "free stuff" is a manifestation of racism
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 11:33 AM
Sep 2015

Oftentimes, combined with casual sexism ( "those single mothers having too many kids are taking advantage of the TAXPAYERS!!" ).

Remember, in America, race is the lens through which public discourse - and public policy - deals with poverty. Or did you think all of those white Republican voters (many of whom are only one paycheck or emergency away from poverty) don't take full advantage of welfare state programs themselves?

rladdi

(581 posts)
20. It's funny, but it really is not the that Republicans are silent on the trillions that are
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 11:51 AM
Sep 2015

given to big corporations on an annual basis. They are silent on this fact. When will these brave leaders change the tax codes to eliminate all the subsidizes to corporations? When? When will the Republicans understand that the poor doesn't get 1% of what big corporations get. When Republicans will you change the tax code?

 

mac2766

(658 posts)
26. Kind of related
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:00 PM
Sep 2015

This is from a conversation I recently had with an accountant who has been very busy trying to balance a corporate budget.

What was said was that they needed to cut expenses to the tune of a certain amount. One thing that was identified was an expense of around $3,000.00. The 3k represented an annual gift of a $7 meal chit given to each employee on their birthday.

My question to them was this. Why would you consider taking $7 a year from each employee, but not $3,000 away from an executive making a million dollars a year?

I thought it was a valid question.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
34. K&R
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:19 PM
Sep 2015

It's going to take a huge fight over a long haul, and at my age (74) I probably won't live to see the fruits of the struggle. But I'm thrilled to be here for the start of the revolution.

GO BERNIE!

sorechasm

(631 posts)
39. Masters of the Snob Scowl
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:13 PM
Sep 2015

All the money you and I can imagine, but not enough to make them happy.
They should have listened to John and Paul. It would have saved all of us a lot of trouble.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
42. Sane people have a built-in bullshit-detector
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 04:27 PM
Sep 2015

First, nobody gets FREE stuff. It's all paid for with a conservative mathematical algorithm. It's sad really, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me. You that ingests it, pay more than you know.

Groups, corporations, large organizations, those that can bring internet development dollars to bear, can make a big difference in this day and age.

But real "real" people, progressives, humanists, environmentalists, scientists, and even more powerful, just regular Americans, make these times much more interesting.

I am so psyched to see how this plays out!

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