Walker is vulnerable. We can win back WI.

[SWTORFanatic]

Our problem is enthusiasm, not a mighty opponent.

Walker 50% Barrett 47% (likely voters)

https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/8788/images/WI_recall_still_dead_heat.pdf

Republicans:

Barrett 3% Walker 96%

Democrats:

Barrett 93% Walker 7%

Independents:

Barrett 50% Walker 44%

Negative view among independents:

Walker 52% UNFAVORABLE 43% FAVORABLE

Barrett 24% UNFAVORABLE 50% FAVORABLE

Like I said we can win this and Walker is vulnerable among independents. We just need to get both dems and independents to the polls (and convince the 7% of dems who are pro-Walker...). It's not that Walker is strong, we just need to get off our butts.

[southernyankeebelle]

1. What in the world do you mean no enthusiasm? Good god for a year now you hear

all the wrong doings of the governor and you don't think enthusiasm is going to do it. If I lived in that state I would fire the butts of my friends to get the vote out. All the wrong doing should be enough to get people out to do the right thing. He is screwing everyone not just unions. If Barret doesn't win then look in a mirror WI dems and Indeps.

[SWTORFanatic]

2. It's surprising, but one of the recent polls had

republican voters at "certain to vote" at something like 85% and dems at only like 60%

[southernyankeebelle]

20. Spin, spin and more crazy spinning. I don't believe that. Not all these months of indeps and dems

fighting hard to get rid of these crooks. You can make a poll say whatever you want. Don't you agree?

[TheWraith]

27. That's a dangerous view to have.

If you go in with the assumption that "all the polls are faked," etcetera you basically set yourself up for a "But everyone I know voted for McGovern!" situation. Instead of dismissing everything one disagrees with as propaganda, treat it as a warning.

[southernyankeebelle]

28. The thing is you can manipulate any poll you want to get the answer you want. I don't dismiss

all polls but it's hard to believe in WI the people worked so hard to get rid of the evil man. It's hard to believe.

[HereSince1628]

8. This isn't a typical party election, it's more personal as in it's more for or against Walker

The message game here depends on being intentional about exploiting Walker's negatives.

The early ads were aimed at convincing independent and 'traditional' republicans, the recent ads are turning more to Walker's negatives, which imo, are rather more motivational for those already convinced.

The War on Women ads against WI Sen Wanggaard are excellent in that regard.


About that other thing you said...It is very unlikely that any WI voters for the recall who are reading DU are going to find fault when they look in the mirror.

We've been making history all along this effort. We've been enduring in our commitment. The special election is only the 3rd recall of a sitting governor in American history.

That the June 5th special election is happening is a monumental achievement, an effort of a million people expressing the Progressive Spirit of Wisconsin in the face of right-wing extremist intimidation.

It is going to feel GREAT to be counted among those who use their franchise to say the business of Wisconsin government is not Koch Industries, and that The right of workers to organize is not to be abridged by an ALEC agenda.

I look forward to cheerfully sharing that historic voting experience with my pro-recall neighbors. I can only hope that the poll watchers ask why I am so happy so that I can say: "THIS is what democracy looks like!"

[southernyankeebelle]

19. Every night I pray to the good lord that WI leads the way to rise up against this party of

tea publicans. I will have a nice glass of wine if Walker is defeated. Just like my mother and grandfather did when Mussolini was hung in Italy. I hope Walker will enjoy a nice jail cell.

[HereSince1628]

3. I think I don't trust those numbers but it is true that pro-recall WI voters must get out and vote

Thing can easily go wrong with polls that have just enough participants surveyed to give a theoretical 5% margin of error.

[SWTORFanatic]

5. I'm looking more at how poorly he is doing among independents than the

head to head match up part of the poll.

[Uncle Joe]

4. I agree Walker is vulnerable, the one major advantage he has is money

used to buy up television commercials and print ads to brain wash the good people of Wisconsin.

The question is, will the money be enough to offset his high unfavorable ratings?

Thanks for the thread, SWTORFanatic.

[kentuck]

6. I certainly hope so...

If this guy wins, he will be the next hero of the Republican Party. It will be bigger than Reagan busting the PATCO union.

[freshwest]

7. And a sign for November nationally and by states. Regressives win.

[white_wolf]

10. If he wins I'd look for him to run for the GOP presidential nomination in 16 or 20.

He's an empty corporate puppet. Just the type of person the GOP tend to nominate, well at least when they aren't nominating drunken war-mongering frat boys.

[WI_DEM]

9. How does Walker lead by 3 if Dems are 93-7 for Barrett and indies go Barrett 50-44

Are there so many more Republicans who are excited to vote or something than Democrats?

[SWTORFanatic]

11. One of the more recent polls showed repub voters as

85% "almost certain to vote in the recall" and 60% of dem voters and 60% of indy voters "almost certain to vote in the recall".

Baffling. But if we can get our enthusiasm up to 85% as well we'll clean Walker's clock.

[Doctor_J]

12. "Our problem is enthusiasm"

complete horse shit. Our only problems are rigged polls, illegal voter suppression, and a fascist media cabal.

[brooklynite]

16. If you believe in all these conspiracy theories...

...then you should have assumed them before you started and planned accordingly.

What I see is that EVERY poll has had Walker (whatever his unpopularity) at or above 50%, meaning Barrett has to run the table of all remaining voters AND steal some back from Walker for good measure. Everyone on the Democratic side seems to have gotten so focused on getting out Walker that they didn't focus on who to replace him with. A 3-way Primary ending a month before the Election is no way to build momentum.

[Doctor_J]

21. COnspiracy theories?

Which of the three (rigged polls, voter suppression, right-wing media bias) is not a verifiable fact?

[Blue Owl]

13. I believe those polls as much as I believe in the tooth fairy

After two disastrous years, how can Wisconsin possibly be insane enough to keep that Kochhead crony in office? I don't get it.

[Stuart G]

14. K and R...nt

[littlewolf]

15. as stated before turnout is the key

Repubs are 85% likely to vote
and
Dems and Indies are 60% ...

why?

[ieoeja]

18. A lot of people do not believe in recall elections.

And will not vote or will vote to retain even if they oppose the elected official. I believe recall elections give too much power to mob mentality.

We saw that when the Governator got elected because of hysteria over rolling blackouts. Shortly after the Governator's election, we learned the rolling blackouts were the result of market manipulation and that the previous Governor had the fix in the works. A good man was booted out of office because the mob spoke.

Contrast that with Illinois where an out of control Democratic governor was impeached by a Democratic legislature. That is the way it should be handled. Frankly, the Illinois legislature should have acted at least a year earlier when the governor just flat fucking out refused to do his job.

The mob outed the wrong man in California. The legislature outed the right man in Illinois.

That is where the Wisconsin recall election puts me in conflict. His actions have been clearly illegal, but a partisan State Supreme Court refuses to act. He should clearly be impeached, but a partisan legislature refuses to do their job. So I tend to see this one time as the impeachment the legislature refuses to do.

Since I don't have a vote in the matter, I can safely sit on the sidelines and cheer for Walker's recall.

[Fawke Em]

17. What if Walker wins and then gets arrested in connection

with the John Doe probe.

Will that finally wake people up?

[tritsofme]

22. Not a good sign, coming from Democratic polling firm.

Unless there is some sort of game changer, I don't see how Barrett pulls this out.

[fascisthunter]

24. thanks for the downer

good job

[tritsofme]

25. Happy talk only?

Don't know what else to say about this poll.

[fascisthunter]

26. I hear ya

[SWTORFanatic]

29. And that is the problem. No happy talk only, but if we

keep talking like that and 40% don't show up at the polls...

[LucasD]

23. ...

"After two disastrous years, how can Wisconsin possibly be insane enough to keep that Kochhead crony in office? I don't get it."

Because "Scott Walker is my HERO!" God I hate those bumper stickers.

People around here are absolutely tweaked in the head. Now there are new signs popping up
all over that read "Scott Walker for Sportsmen." WTF is that?!?

Argh... I really need to move away... far away.

Anyway... I don't think we have a chance. All it will take is one bag-o-votes from a slightly more Dem. region kicked under a table
by a Koch crony and the game ends.