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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:52 PM Sep 2015

That Guy Who Is Price-Gouging AIDS Patients Also Did It to Kids with Kidney Disease

That Guy Who Is Price-Gouging AIDS Patients Also Did It to Kids with Kidney Disease
By Jeremy Stahl

"THEY SEE ME ROLLING..."

— Martin Shkreli (@MartinShkreli) September 16, 2015
https://twitter.com/MartinShkreli/status/644222084651069440/photo/1


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The former hedge fund manager whose pharmaceutical company has come under withering attack for allegations of egregious price-gouging on life-saving medication is the subject of a $65 million lawsuit by his former employer for alleged stock manipulation—and it turns out he once tried a similar price hike scheme with that company. During Martin Shkreli's tenure as CEO of Retrophin—the company that is now suing him—the company increased prices on a decades-old kidney medication by about 20 times its original cost, a move similar to the controversial price increase by his new company reported by the New York Times on Sunday.

When Shkreli was CEO of Retrophin, the company purchased a kidney medication approved by the FDA in 1988 called Thiola and increased the cost from $1 per pill to $30 per pill. That drug treated cystinuria, a lifelong disease for which there is no known cure and which afflicts about 20,000 patients in the United States. Forbes health care contributor Steve Brozak described the disease last year when news of the price increase broke:

Patients are usually diagnosed with the disease at a very young age and have an abnormally high concentration of an amino acid called cystine present in their urine. The excess cystine crystallizes regularly into stones that painfully travel through the kidneys, ureters or bladder. Imagine having a kidney stone form or pass once a month, tearing through your organs as it tracks its way out of your body.


There was no alternative drug for cystinuria sufferers, Brozak reported, and the 20-fold hike raised the price to about between $54,750 to $109,500 per year. At the time, Brozak argued that Retrophin was “turning patients into commodities like barrels of oil,” while University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Associate Professor of Urology Benjamin Davies called it a case of “predatory capitalism on the backs of the sick and silent.” Writing for Science Transnational Medicine, pharmaceutical columnist Derek Lowe said the Thiola increase was the “most unconscionable drug price hike I have yet seen.”

Shkreli is currently going on business news programs arguing for the current price hike on Daraprim by saying that it is necessary for future research and development. Last year, Retrophin made the exact same argument in a http://www.retrophin.com/pdf/ThiolaInvestorCCPresentation.pdf" target="_blank">since-removed business presentation on its website to justify its price increase on Thiola, saying that it “plans to develop a long-acting version of Thiola® for once daily dosing.” (In a hilarious and perhaps not atypical legal notice about the “anticipated development, timing, data readouts and therapeutic scope of programs in our clinical pipeline,” the proposal warned “these forward-looking statements may be accompanied by such words as ‘anticipate,’ ‘believe,’ ‘estimate,’ ‘expect,’ ‘forecast,’ ‘intend,’ ‘may,’ ‘plan,’ ‘project,’ ‘target,’ ‘will’ and other words and terms of similar meaning. You should not place undue reliance on these statements.”)

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Read the rest here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/22/martin_shkreli_price_gouging_the_hedge_fund_bro_pulled_drug_price_hike_scheme.html?wpsrc=sh_all_mob_tw_ru


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That Guy Who Is Price-Gouging AIDS Patients Also Did It to Kids with Kidney Disease (Original Post) Catherina Sep 2015 OP
that smirk ... napkinz Sep 2015 #1
That's a sociopathic smirk. Nt HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #4
the smirk comes at 5:38 in the video, when she asks him if he is going to change the price ... napkinz Sep 2015 #6
Argggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh! makes you wanna scream! n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #11
It makes me want to rearrange his face Warpy Sep 2015 #28
another smirk ... has this guy ever cried in his life? has he ever had empathy for anyone??? napkinz Sep 2015 #49
True sociopath! davekriss Sep 2015 #69
I'm going to give the bullies that stole his lunch money a pass on this one. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #15
He has no soul passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #25
More like a student who's surpassed his master jmowreader Sep 2015 #53
Yeah, you're right passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #54
They don't care about what people drmeow Sep 2015 #71
That face should be in the dictionary geardaddy Sep 2015 #35
That's a cool word laundry_queen Sep 2015 #58
My favorite word lately... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #59
That face is ryan_cats Sep 2015 #42
Big Pharma must be furious with him. He's blowing their cover. yardwork Sep 2015 #2
Maybe we should thank him for exposing how morally vacuous the industry is n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #8
That's exactly what I've been thinking. blm Sep 2015 #9
All is being revealed...nt artislife Sep 2015 #73
This dude is playing a VERY dangerous game. (Not speaking for myself) You can't flaunt the fact that BlueJazz Sep 2015 #3
I was trying to find a way to say that delicately myself. stevenleser Sep 2015 #5
I wholeheartedly agree. hamsterjill Sep 2015 #18
I'd whip his ass in a heartbeat if I thought I could get away with it 7962 Sep 2015 #21
I"m not going to wish harm or death on him for his actions passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #27
A small editorial suggestion. 3catwoman3 Sep 2015 #38
Yes! hamsterjill Sep 2015 #66
Based on all the anger directed at him right now on twitter, I agree n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #7
I'm wondering if this could lead to armed customers in drug stores KansDem Sep 2015 #22
some things are just too important for capitalism questionseverything Sep 2015 #10
Why yes indeed... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #60
Death Penalty Johnny2X2X Sep 2015 #12
Agreed. IF you're going to have a Death Penalty, this is the sort of person who deserves it. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #13
YES! eom drmeow Sep 2015 #72
"I don't wanna grow up. I'm a Toys r Us kid." lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #14
He has a special place in hell waiting for him. Rex Sep 2015 #16
To be more accurate, he's gouging all insurance customers. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #17
Spread the word about this guy. Look into his past; 7962 Sep 2015 #19
Freaking smirking entitled asshole is what he is. lark Sep 2015 #20
been ALLOWED to do, remember--by prating anarcho-capitalists, oily-smooth corporatist pols promising MisterP Sep 2015 #23
Yes. Problems like these could be SOLVED BY CONGRESS ... Auggie Sep 2015 #40
Ahh!! KARMA ! Milliesmom Sep 2015 #24
I'm sure he'll get probation. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #32
Where is this happening?? Milliesmom Sep 2015 #64
"former hedge fund manager..." SoapBox Sep 2015 #26
The last sort of person you want deciding the cost of life-saving medicine n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #30
I caught that too artislife Sep 2015 #74
How do people like this come from healthy families? closeupready Sep 2015 #29
Usually psychopaths breed more psycopaths d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #33
I can imagine typical home life Doremus Sep 2015 #47
I'm not gonna wish any harm on this bastard d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #76
You can never know if a family is 'healthy' laundry_queen Sep 2015 #61
The drug treats parasitic infections. Turbineguy Sep 2015 #31
It would be an insult to vermin... gregcrawford Sep 2015 #34
And this is precisely why we hate rich people. Fuck that guy. Initech Sep 2015 #36
First glance at his photo madamesilverspurs Sep 2015 #37
A little off... MFM008 Sep 2015 #51
He reminds me of that creep... 3catwoman3 Sep 2015 #39
+1 beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #45
Two interesting background articles alcina Sep 2015 #41
"a very dangerous child"< his inner child is Charles Manson. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #44
What do those drugs cost in Canada? n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #43
It does not make any sense maindawg Sep 2015 #46
"Tell Mike it was only business. " WinkyDink Sep 2015 #48
Yep, old Abe Vigoda as Tessio stevenleser Sep 2015 #50
Nothing wrong with that guy that can't be fixed SwankyXomb Sep 2015 #52
Don't have to imagine what it's like; that's my life. Drug didn't work for me though. REP Sep 2015 #55
How old is this twerp? 3catwoman3 Sep 2015 #56
POFS Blue Owl Sep 2015 #57
He's very clever. Acquiring drugs that people MUST take. Avalux Sep 2015 #62
Whatta tool laundry_queen Sep 2015 #63
Excuse my grammar... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #65
What was that new German word we learned for "smack able face"? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2015 #67
Backpfeifengesicht nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #68
Thank you! Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2015 #70
I'd like to see this guy ruined, trapped inside his penthouse forever. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #75
K&R for Brother Malcolm - nt TBF Sep 2015 #77
Why don't we do something then? geek75 Sep 2015 #78
There are already thousands more. In nearly every large corporation. arcane1 Sep 2015 #79
Welcome to DU!!! gopiscrap Sep 2015 #80

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
6. the smirk comes at 5:38 in the video, when she asks him if he is going to change the price ...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:08 PM
Sep 2015


CNBC Interviewer: Are you going to change the price?

Shkreli: No. (says with a smirk)

davekriss

(4,618 posts)
69. True sociopath!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:01 PM
Sep 2015

Bloodsucking profiteering price-gouging son of a b will be working off his karma for his next two hundred lives!

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
53. More like a student who's surpassed his master
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:54 PM
Sep 2015

While Cheney is inarguably as evil as the day is long, I suspect he wouldn't do this.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
54. Yeah, you're right
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:20 PM
Sep 2015

Cheney would do it in a heartbeat if he thought he could get away with it...but he's smart enough to know he can't.

This guy is getting killed on social media. I wonder how it's affecting him? I just hope it wipes that sick smirk off his face.

drmeow

(5,021 posts)
71. They don't care about what people
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:11 AM
Sep 2015

say about them on social media - the only thing that has been shown to change sociopaths behavior is the threat of loss of money, power, or life.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
59. My favorite word lately...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:07 PM
Sep 2015

thanks to fumesucker.

I know a few IRL an on DU I would apply the word to.

yardwork

(61,667 posts)
2. Big Pharma must be furious with him. He's blowing their cover.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:55 PM
Sep 2015

These things must be done delicately....

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
3. This dude is playing a VERY dangerous game. (Not speaking for myself) You can't flaunt the fact that
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:57 PM
Sep 2015

....somebody's child may be dying because of you. Very, very dangerous...in these times.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
5. I was trying to find a way to say that delicately myself.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:03 PM
Sep 2015

If one of my kids couldn't afford that kidney drug, or toxoplasmosis drug because of what he did, well, I am sure there are a lot of parents that would agree with me that at least thinking of doing that person grave bodily harm would be a very regular occurrence.

I can't promise I would limit myself to thinking about it.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
18. I wholeheartedly agree.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015

While I won't be causing him any harm myself, I would hold no malice toward anyone who might if his actions were literally causing the death of someone's loved one.

He is a repulsive human being who has no earthly idea what it means to care about someone.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
21. I'd whip his ass in a heartbeat if I thought I could get away with it
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:50 PM
Sep 2015

Sometimes force is the only thing some people understand

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
27. I"m not going to wish harm or death on him for his actions
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:10 PM
Sep 2015

He will end up paying for his actions, and that is already happening in the social media. But it won't bother me a bit if he ends up with a life-threatening illness that he cannot afford the medication for.

That would be Karma.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
22. I'm wondering if this could lead to armed customers in drug stores
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:57 PM
Sep 2015

Really, though...

somebody's child may be dying because of you

Might we see a desperate parent go into a drug store and demand the drug at gunpoint?

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
10. some things are just too important for capitalism
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:17 PM
Sep 2015

healthcare is one of them

the first thing the aca should of addressed is cost containment

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
60. Why yes indeed...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:13 PM
Sep 2015

instead we have health insurance that most can't afford and can't afford to use if we have it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,074 posts)
12. Death Penalty
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015

This man deserves to be tried for crimes against humanity. He sees people suffering and potentially dying and he says to himself, "man if they would all just suffer a little more and die in greater numbers, then I can profit." That is someone who deserves to be tried in our justice system and face the death penalty if found guilty.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. He has a special place in hell waiting for him.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

That smile, wow amazing what greed does to a person. Rot in hell.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
17. To be more accurate, he's gouging all insurance customers.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015

This is a collective problem, demanding collective action.

Abandon the practice of exclusivity and shorten patent terms.

By the time that's done, this asshole will have already made his literal killing.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
19. Spread the word about this guy. Look into his past;
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

hes been sued MANY times. His old company is suing him right now for 65 million. Here is an article on him titled
"Big Pharma's biggest asshole"
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/21/martin-shkreli-is-big-pharma-s-biggest-asshole.html?source=socialflow&via=twitter_page&account=thedailybeast&medium=twitter

he needs his ass beat

lark

(23,123 posts)
20. Freaking smirking entitled asshole is what he is.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

Also, a pox on humanity. The worst of the 1%ers. He makes Scrooge look kind. Wish there was something we could do?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
23. been ALLOWED to do, remember--by prating anarcho-capitalists, oily-smooth corporatist pols promising
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:02 PM
Sep 2015

us to reverse everything and then further entrenching it, by your asshole uncle who bellyaches all day about the country's problems but doesn't want anything to be DONE to reverse them because a Black person might get some money

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
32. I'm sure he'll get probation.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:17 PM
Sep 2015

He's not a "real criminal", unlike the cancer grannies currently serving 5-10 year mandatory minimums for being busted smoking a joint.

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
64. Where is this happening??
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:33 PM
Sep 2015

What are they thinking? It's legal here in Washington State where I'm at, wish it were everywhere to help people like her. Has anyone started a petition for her?

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
47. I can imagine typical home life
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:09 PM
Sep 2015

Bootstraps, self-responsibility lectures and zero caring or compassion.

I can only wish that he suffers the same fate that he's bestowed on his victims, many times over.


d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
76. I'm not gonna wish any harm on this bastard
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:50 AM
Sep 2015

I'm a big believer in Karma and God's wrath. How and when he gets his is up to the cosmos.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
61. You can never know if a family is 'healthy'
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:17 PM
Sep 2015

unless you are in said family. Most dysfunctional families look like a loving, normal, caring family from the outside. Mine did.

But most sociopaths/psychopaths are born with the tendency. Even 'productive, law-abiding' sociopaths from actual 'healthy' families lack empathy and have to learn that it's in their best interests to treat people in a caring manner.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
34. It would be an insult to vermin...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:22 PM
Sep 2015

... to call him a weasel. How about "Hagfish?" Yeah, that works.

I wouldn't be surprised if he jacked the price in hopes that he could rake in enough to pay all the legal bills he's going to have for some of his previous con jobs. He's got legions of victims screaming for his head on a pike. The boy is a walking, talking neon sign flashing SOCIOPATH!

He's gonna go down so hard, he'll be nothing but a grease spot in the dirt. Good riddance.

madamesilverspurs

(15,806 posts)
37. First glance at his photo
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:39 PM
Sep 2015

instantly brought to mind Peter Lorre's mad doctor in Arsenic and Old Lace.
Not dissing Lorre, but it was kind of startling for a second or two.




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MFM008

(19,818 posts)
51. A little off...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:30 PM
Sep 2015

Peter Lorre yes, however it was in his first film 'M' about a child murderer. This guy gives me a major case of the creepies. I dont mean Peter Lorre either.....

3catwoman3

(24,010 posts)
39. He reminds me of that creep...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:49 PM
Sep 2015

... Kevin Trudeau, who is always hawking some sort of miracle bullshit.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
46. It does not make any sense
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:03 PM
Sep 2015

I saw him on CBS. He was smirking, he called his plan , Aultruistic' because , he said there needs to be more research ,'in my opinion' smirking. We all know that he is not in any way qualified to have an opinion on the topic. The Doctors say that drug works very well and that it does not even need to be improved upon. To go from 13 dollars to 750 dollars is not any kind of workable business model. It will not work.
Ins companies will refuse to pay it. They have thousands of lawyers and millions of pissed off customers. How does this kid think he can pull this off? Why try ? Maybe just to leverage himself a great negotiating position. He really thinking 100 bucks and when he 'settles ' for only 100 dollars a pill, everyone will be so glad to bend over and take their medicine.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
62. He's very clever. Acquiring drugs that people MUST take.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:18 PM
Sep 2015

The anti-fungal that started this is the ONLY drug that treats toxoplasmosis (a fungal infection); people with AIDs, cancer - anyone with a compromised immune system is susceptible to get it.

Mr. Smarmy Capitalist created a pharmaceutcal company - not to create drugs - but buy old drugs that are must haves, and jack up the prices.

He's the lowest form of human being there is; money above all else, including people's lives.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
63. Whatta tool
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:19 PM
Sep 2015

I hope that he's going to forever be known as the greedy loser that destroyed private pharmaceutical companies and brought in national pharmacare in North America.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
65. Excuse my grammar...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:34 PM
Sep 2015

but he his a bloody fucking asshole who deserves to die for lack of treatment for the injuries he receives from a beating by someone whose loved one died for lack of an affordable treatment.

That goes for anyone who gouges the price of medical care. Here's looking at you GILEAD.

 

geek75

(102 posts)
78. Why don't we do something then?
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:49 PM
Sep 2015

If something doesn't get done there will be thousands more like him.

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