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Here are the facts: In the five years that Fiorina was at Hewlett Packard, the company lost over half its value. Its true that many tech companies had trouble during this period of the Internet bubble collapse, some falling in value as much as 27 percent; but HP under Fiorina fell 55 percent. During those years, stocks in companies like Apple and Dell rose. Google went public, and Facebook was launched. The S&P 500 yardstick on major U.S. firms showed only a 7 percent drop. Plenty good was happening in U.S. industry and in technology.
It was Fiorinas failed leadership that brought her company down. After an unsuccessful attempt to catch up to IBMs growth in IT services by buying PricewaterhouseCoopers consulting business (PwC, ironically, ended up going to IBM instead), she abruptly abandoned the strategic goal of expanding IT services and consulting and moved into heavy metal. At a time that devices had become a low margin commodity business, Fiorina bought for $25 billion the dying Compaq computer company, which was composed of other failed businesses. Unsurprisingly, the Compaq deal never generated the profits Fiorina hoped for, and HPs stock price fell by half. The only stock pop under Fiorinas reign was the 7 percent jump the moment she was fired following a unanimous board vote. After the firing, HP shuttered or sold virtually all Fiorina had bought.
During the debate, Fiorina countered that she wasnt a failure because she doubled revenues. Thats an empty measurement. What good is doubling revenue by acquiring a huge company if youre not making any profit from it? The goals of business are to raise profits, increase employment and add value. During Fiorinas tenure, thanks to the Compaq deal, profits fell, employees were laid off and value plummeted. Fiorina was paid over $100 million for this accomplishment.
At the time, most industry analysts, HP shareholders, HP employees and even some HP board members resisted the Compaq deal. (Fiorina prevailed in the proxy battle, with 51.4 percent, partly thanks to ethically questionable tactics, but thats another story.) But rather than listen to the concerns of her opponents, she ridiculed them, equating dissent with disloyalty. As we saw during the debate when she attacked me, rather than listen to or learn from critics, Fiorina disparages them. She did so regularly to platoons of her own top lieutenants and even her board of directorsuntil they fired her.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-ceo-jeffrey-sonnenfeld-2016-213163#ixzz3mKpsCeMH
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Dell and HP were competing head to head in identical markets.
Carly failed.
Joanie Baloney
(1,357 posts)Fiorina can attack me all she wants, as she did when she called me a well-known Clintonite (an absurd allegation Ill get to later) who had it out for me from the moment that I arrived at Hewlett Packard. But no amount of one-liners to Trump, weekend study of Middle Eastern names or ad hominen attacks on a university professor can take someone from gross business leadership failure to leader of the free world. To do that, shell have to own up to her missteps and try to learn from themwhich she seems disinclined to do.
LOL
-JB
erronis
(15,371 posts)And I have to point out the obvious: If the board was wrong, the employees wrong, and the shareholders wrongas Fiorina maintainswhy in 10 years has she never been offered another public company to run?
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)In which she presided over growth which consisted of selling equipment to unstable startup companies by lending them the money with which to buy said equipment, showing the sale as revenue and putting the loans on the balance sheet as "stable assets," which they decidedly were not. Lucent crashed even more spectacularly than HP did.
PatSeg
(47,625 posts)gives you a visual of what it must have been like working at HP when she was their CEO. Sounds like a nightmare.
I was very surprised that she would have the political capital to run a presidential campaign given her business record. Why on earth would anyone want our country run like she ran HP? Makes no sense at all.
NBachers
(17,149 posts)They saturated the airwaves so bad, everyone was royally sick of both of 'em.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...because while Fiorina is "not well liked" by many, Meg was loathed. "Shove-gate" pretty much set the tone for where her campaign would ultimately go.
Meg Whitman Shoves An Employee, Pays A $200,000 Settlement (Allegedly)
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Meg-Whitman-Shoves-An-Employee-Pays-A-200-000-2537590.php
Former eBay CEO and current California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman paid a ~$200,000 settlement to an eBay employee she once shoved named Young Mi Kim. Here's the blow-by-blow from the June 7, 2007 incident, as reported in the New York Times this morning:
Ms. Kim was briefing Ms. Whitman for [an] interview that morning by writing talking points on the whiteboard in Ms. Whitmans personal conference room at eBays headquarters in San Jose, Calif.
Ms. Whitman became angry with Ms. Kim before the interview, partly because Ms. Whitman felt unprepared for the conversation with Reuters.
Ms. Kim later told at least one colleague that Ms. Whitman used an expletive and shoved her. Ms. Whitman said that she had physically guided Ms. Kim out of the conference room.
bucolic_frolic
(43,340 posts)because I owned two of them.
The computers were commodities. HP was selling in retailers at retail
but suffering through returns so large they were selling 'refurbs' online
at startup auction houses like ubid. Generally speaking one could buy
at 40-60% off retail. The warranties were shorter, and the tech support
short. No returns, and a 90 day window.
Information on the technology was evasive. My inquiries to HP on the
features were fudged. They let marketing materials do the selling. One
peeled off a spec sheet in the store and headed online, called HP for
guidance (which was 100% in error for me at one point), and bid.
My PC awakened itself out of sleep at night. Never got an explanation.
Tech support said "Did you move your mouse? Do you have a cat? lol lol lol "
Not amusing to the consumer.
The kicker came when HP itself called me to try to sell an extended warranty.
The PC's were $1200 retail in Staples, I think I paid around $550 online.
HP wanted to sell me a 4 year warranty - for $600! I thought the offer bogus,
a scam, and called HP to report it. For $600 I could buy a whole new PC at any
time to replace the unit I had. Absurd.
But HP confirmed the offer was genuine, and it was them. I told them they were
crazy.
This was 1999, middle of Carly's Golden Tenure.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Racist dumbasses like to vote for people just like themselves.
They believe that racist dumbassery is what makes 'Murica a grait kuntry.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)It is objectively true that she was a terrible CEO.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Doesn't matter how you get it, just get it. If it is illegal you better hope you get enough to insulate yourself from possible incarceration.
If it is immoral, well, who cares? Certainly nobody with investments in Wall St. Immoral is how they pay the bills.
She is a great CEO by Wall St standards. Cast off the old and near retirement. Slash benefits. Destroy lives. Be a success story.