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RandySF

(59,332 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:09 PM Sep 2015

Politico: Why I Still Think Fiorina Was a Terrible CEO

Here are the facts: In the five years that Fiorina was at Hewlett Packard, the company lost over half its value. It’s true that many tech companies had trouble during this period of the Internet bubble collapse, some falling in value as much as 27 percent; but HP under Fiorina fell 55 percent. During those years, stocks in companies like Apple and Dell rose. Google went public, and Facebook was launched. The S&P 500 yardstick on major U.S. firms showed only a 7 percent drop. Plenty good was happening in U.S. industry and in technology.

It was Fiorina’s failed leadership that brought her company down. After an unsuccessful attempt to catch up to IBM’s growth in IT services by buying PricewaterhouseCooper’s consulting business (PwC, ironically, ended up going to IBM instead), she abruptly abandoned the strategic goal of expanding IT services and consulting and moved into heavy metal. At a time that devices had become a low margin commodity business, Fiorina bought for $25 billion the dying Compaq computer company, which was composed of other failed businesses. Unsurprisingly, the Compaq deal never generated the profits Fiorina hoped for, and HP’s stock price fell by half. The only stock pop under Fiorina’s reign was the 7 percent jump the moment she was fired following a unanimous board vote. After the firing, HP shuttered or sold virtually all Fiorina had bought.

During the debate, Fiorina countered that she wasn’t a failure because she doubled revenues. That’s an empty measurement. What good is doubling revenue by acquiring a huge company if you’re not making any profit from it? The goals of business are to raise profits, increase employment and add value. During Fiorina’s tenure, thanks to the Compaq deal, profits fell, employees were laid off and value plummeted. Fiorina was paid over $100 million for this accomplishment.

At the time, most industry analysts, HP shareholders, HP employees and even some HP board members resisted the Compaq deal. (Fiorina prevailed in the proxy battle, with 51.4 percent, partly thanks to ethically questionable tactics, but that’s another story.) But rather than listen to the concerns of her opponents, she ridiculed them, equating dissent with disloyalty. As we saw during the debate when she attacked me, rather than listen to or learn from critics, Fiorina disparages them. She did so regularly to platoons of her own top lieutenants and even her board of directors—until they fired her.



http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-ceo-jeffrey-sonnenfeld-2016-213163#ixzz3mKpsCeMH

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Politico: Why I Still Think Fiorina Was a Terrible CEO (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2015 OP
the Dell comparison is the best virtualobserver Sep 2015 #1
The paragraph before the one you posted is beautiful Joanie Baloney Sep 2015 #2
And this one too. (All in all, the piece in Politico is well worth reading): erronis Sep 2015 #4
Not to mention her disaster at Lucent. JayhawkSD Sep 2015 #3
Reading the article PatSeg Sep 2015 #5
Agree coolepairc Sep 2015 #6
Carly and her guano sister Meg Whitman ran atrocious campaigns in California; both lost. NBachers Sep 2015 #7
Meg was a real oddity... Miles Archer Sep 2015 #9
I paid close attention to HP at that time bucolic_frolic Sep 2015 #8
The best way to succeed in the GOP is to be bigoted and/or incompetent MrScorpio Sep 2015 #10
This is not a matter of what one thinks or believes. Jester Messiah Sep 2015 #11
Success in America is measured in dollars. raouldukelives Sep 2015 #12
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
1. the Dell comparison is the best
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:17 PM
Sep 2015

Dell and HP were competing head to head in identical markets.

Carly failed.

Joanie Baloney

(1,357 posts)
2. The paragraph before the one you posted is beautiful
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:28 PM
Sep 2015
Fiorina can attack me all she wants, as she did when she called me “a well-known Clintonite” (an absurd allegation I’ll get to later) who “had it out for me from the moment that I arrived at Hewlett Packard.” But no amount of one-liners to Trump, weekend study of Middle Eastern names or ad hominen attacks on a university professor can take someone from gross business leadership failure to leader of the free world. To do that, she’ll have to own up to her missteps and try to learn from them—which she seems disinclined to do.


LOL


-JB

erronis

(15,371 posts)
4. And this one too. (All in all, the piece in Politico is well worth reading):
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:18 PM
Sep 2015
And I have to point out the obvious: If the board was wrong, the employees wrong, and the shareholders wrong—as Fiorina maintains—why in 10 years has she never been offered another public company to run?
 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
3. Not to mention her disaster at Lucent.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:23 AM
Sep 2015

In which she presided over growth which consisted of selling equipment to unstable startup companies by lending them the money with which to buy said equipment, showing the sale as revenue and putting the loans on the balance sheet as "stable assets," which they decidedly were not. Lucent crashed even more spectacularly than HP did.

PatSeg

(47,625 posts)
5. Reading the article
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:59 PM
Sep 2015

gives you a visual of what it must have been like working at HP when she was their CEO. Sounds like a nightmare.

 

coolepairc

(50 posts)
6. Agree
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 09:00 PM
Sep 2015

I was very surprised that she would have the political capital to run a presidential campaign given her business record. Why on earth would anyone want our country run like she ran HP? Makes no sense at all.

NBachers

(17,149 posts)
7. Carly and her guano sister Meg Whitman ran atrocious campaigns in California; both lost.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 10:06 PM
Sep 2015

They saturated the airwaves so bad, everyone was royally sick of both of 'em.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
9. Meg was a real oddity...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:01 AM
Sep 2015

...because while Fiorina is "not well liked" by many, Meg was loathed. "Shove-gate" pretty much set the tone for where her campaign would ultimately go.



Meg Whitman Shoves An Employee, Pays A $200,000 Settlement (Allegedly)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Meg-Whitman-Shoves-An-Employee-Pays-A-200-000-2537590.php

Former eBay CEO and current California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman paid a ~$200,000 settlement to an eBay employee she once shoved named Young Mi Kim. Here's the blow-by-blow from the June 7, 2007 incident, as reported in the New York Times this morning:

Ms. Kim was briefing Ms. Whitman for [an] interview that morning by writing talking points on the whiteboard in Ms. Whitman’s personal conference room at eBay’s headquarters in San Jose, Calif.

Ms. Whitman became angry with Ms. Kim before the interview, partly because Ms. Whitman felt unprepared for the conversation with Reuters.

Ms. Kim later told at least one colleague that Ms. Whitman used an expletive and shoved her. Ms. Whitman said that she had physically guided Ms. Kim out of the conference room.

bucolic_frolic

(43,340 posts)
8. I paid close attention to HP at that time
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:02 AM
Sep 2015

because I owned two of them.

The computers were commodities. HP was selling in retailers at retail
but suffering through returns so large they were selling 'refurbs' online
at startup auction houses like ubid. Generally speaking one could buy
at 40-60% off retail. The warranties were shorter, and the tech support
short. No returns, and a 90 day window.

Information on the technology was evasive. My inquiries to HP on the
features were fudged. They let marketing materials do the selling. One
peeled off a spec sheet in the store and headed online, called HP for
guidance (which was 100% in error for me at one point), and bid.

My PC awakened itself out of sleep at night. Never got an explanation.
Tech support said "Did you move your mouse? Do you have a cat? lol lol lol "
Not amusing to the consumer.

The kicker came when HP itself called me to try to sell an extended warranty.
The PC's were $1200 retail in Staples, I think I paid around $550 online.
HP wanted to sell me a 4 year warranty - for $600! I thought the offer bogus,
a scam, and called HP to report it. For $600 I could buy a whole new PC at any
time to replace the unit I had. Absurd.

But HP confirmed the offer was genuine, and it was them. I told them they were
crazy.

This was 1999, middle of Carly's Golden Tenure.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
10. The best way to succeed in the GOP is to be bigoted and/or incompetent
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:27 AM
Sep 2015

Racist dumbasses like to vote for people just like themselves.

They believe that racist dumbassery is what makes 'Murica a grait kuntry.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
11. This is not a matter of what one thinks or believes.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:34 AM
Sep 2015

It is objectively true that she was a terrible CEO.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
12. Success in America is measured in dollars.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:47 AM
Sep 2015

Doesn't matter how you get it, just get it. If it is illegal you better hope you get enough to insulate yourself from possible incarceration.

If it is immoral, well, who cares? Certainly nobody with investments in Wall St. Immoral is how they pay the bills.

She is a great CEO by Wall St standards. Cast off the old and near retirement. Slash benefits. Destroy lives. Be a success story.

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