So the descent of Donald Trump begins

[DemocratSinceBirth]

No candidate can survive a full scale media onslaught, especially one with no powerful allies or institutional support:

Washington (CNN)Carly Fiorina has rocketed into second place in the Republican presidential field on the heels another strong debate and Donald Trump has lost some support, a new national CNN/ORC poll shows.

The survey, conducted the three days after 23 million people tuned in to Wednesday night's GOP debate on CNN, shows that Trump is still the party's front-runner with 24% support. That, though, is an 8 percentage point decrease from earlier in the month when a similar poll had him at 32%.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/politics/carly-fiorina-donald-trump-republican-2016-poll/index.html

[HassleCat]

1. One failed business exec catching up with another. How exciting! (eom)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. There is so much to work with if she's the nominee.

But it is way too early. Intuitively I knew Trump could not defy political gravity forever. It seems evidence is confirming intuition.

[HassleCat]

3. So many choices!

It's what some people say when the encounter a big, complex menu at a restaurant. "I just don't know what to order. Everything looks so good!" Except this is more like, "This menu is six pages long. Don't you have anything fit to eat?"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. She drove Lucent into the ground. HP is still recovering.

Any way, it's a long distance from the lip to the cup, and I don't think any of us knows how this turns out.

Trump's descent, though, was easier to see...

[IDemo]

5. "My business implosions have been more spectacular than yours!"

[Kilgore]

6. The worrisome part of the article was

The poll offered some good overall news for Republicans: 65% of GOP voters said they are either "extremely" or "very" enthusiastic about voting in the 2016 presidential race, compared with 51% of Democrats.

Could we be seeing the result of "Hillary Fatigue" ??

[HassleCat]

7. I think it's positive onthe GOP side, not negative on the Dem side

Republicans are excited right now, because they have all these fascinating candidates appearing with each other, saying stupid sh... excuse me... making bold statements, taking shots at each other, invoking Christian values, hating on the Mooze-lims, etc. I'm sure it's all very thrilling, kind of like a bullfight with six bulls and a dozen matadors in the ring all at once. Not much is happening on the Democratic side right now. And Democrats are not as easily entertained as Republicans.

[Kilgore]

8. I hope you are right

But I have never seen my republican friends, neighbors, and coworkers this wound up this early over primary candidates. Something is if different this cycle. Interesting to watch, but worrisome if it continues or builds.

[0rganism]

9. are the Kochs gonna roll with Carly or Ben? unlikely

this is going to be very interesting: the Kochs and the GOP establishment are going to take down the 3 leading contenders for the nomination. they're aiming for Bush/Rubio in the GE.

[Maeve]

12. Not Rubio--Kasich as VP

One, there's that "can't be from the same state" thing and two, about the only way for the Repubs to win is to capture both Florida and Ohio.

[Bucky]

13. Actually, Repubs could win both FL and OH & still lose. But...

The place where the Dems are vulnerable is across the Rust Belt. Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, & Minnesota could all be competitive next year. We don't have the "blue wall" in the north anymore. I mean, it's nice that Virginia, Arizona, & North Carolina are in play, but their votes collectively still don't match up to the Great Lakes region. Jeb-Kasich would be a killer ticket. Those monkeys are hungry to take over the banana factory.

[0rganism]

15. ah, you're right about the same state thingy

given that, Kasich is a good bet for the Kochs

[Shandris]

10. " No candidate can survive a full scale media onslaught, especially one with no powerful allies...

...or institutional support."

Very true. And that SHOULD be a warning, but I doubt it will be.

[hifiguy]

11. The klown car will soon resemble

a bunch of wolverines jacked up on meth and Red Bull engaging in a cannibalistic frenzy.

[DCBob]

14. Thank goodness.

May he drop out soon.