Sadly One Of These GOP Goons Is Going To Be Nominated/It Will Be Crappy Election Cycle.

[TheMastersNemesis]

We can see a shit storm coming and there is no way to avoid it. If the rest of the election cycle portends what we will get from what we see now, then the country is in for a very miserable year. We have been off the rails for so long nationally in our political debate that reality now takes a back seat.

Any Democrat should win in a landslide, but all the money, a twisted MSM, and a facts free GOP will have the electorate so confused no one will know which way is up or what is real. Voter are not likely to make decisions on real issues or putting in candidates that will actually improve their lives.

For me each election cycle is more torment. So much asinine rhetoric comes out that is treated as legitimate it is frightening.. Sanders is most correct on the real issues yet Americans probably cannot or are not able to embrace what are these important issues because they are too socialist for them.

When workers vote against their own best interests just about every time because decent pay, job security, and economic justice for the real job creators is just too communist, I think much of the nation needs its head examined.

[Nay]

1. I couldn't agree more. Mr Nay and I were talking about what the hell we were going to do

if the shit storm hits. We don't know, except that we should have taken our toddler and moved the hell out of the country 30 years ago. We are stuck here. With crazy people, insane RW nuts, theocratic assholes, and dumb people. A heart attack can't happen fast enough. I just don't want to see the final destruction.

[Snobblevitch]

2. Huh?

There has been a GOP nominated and running in every presidential election since 1860.

[Hortensis]

3. Agree entirely, except -- Left and middle progressives strongly outnumber

right-wing reactionaries and most people in this country really do want substantive progressive change. Including many conservatives. IF we can get out the vote, we can have a revolution. A good one that will endure because its goals are ultimately what most Americans want.

It would help to stop using the word "socialist" on our side. Democrat Elizabeth Warren ignited this flame, and the changes she and Bernie Sanders are fighting for reflect traditional Democrat ideology. Nothing really new here, our grandparents did it before we came along. Restore what was good and start building again.

[TheMastersNemesis]

4. Sanders Issues Are Not Socialist They Are Economic Commons. He Has Been Framed Socialist.

And he has also said he is a Democratic Socialist. We need a damned socialist movement in this country.

[Hortensis]

5. Agree. But let's refuse to use or acknowedge the word "socialist" anyway.

Even more reliable than gravity is that the GOP will use it in every other sentence if he becomes a threat to them.

Now, "Economic Commons." If you can sell THAT obscure term to people who watch an average of 3 minutes of evening news a day, go for it!

Come to think of it, you might have a better chance of overcoming well over a century of negative conditioning to make socialist sound comfortably mainstream and "respectable." At least everyone knows the word, whether they know what it means or not. Hit the Pubs head-on!

[Bluenorthwest]

6. There is a Republican goon nominated every election cycle. Did you love the past goons?

I don't get this thinking that it is only just now that Republicans have been objectionable.

[Ron Green]

7. If Hillary Clinton is nominated: There will be an endless mudslinging campaign, and the media will

love it. Nothing of substance will change.

If Bernie Sanders is nominated: They will yell "Socialist!!!!1!" for six weeks until people realize that means nothing; then issues will emerge, and people will start to think about things. We will have a real shot at political transformation.

It doesn't matter who the Republican is - the result will be as above and depends entirely on the Democratic nominee.