Did Trump just cross a line re Paul

[Mike Daniels]

Paul was about to comment on a statement by Trump and Trump insulted him by calling him Mr 1% ratings.

No applause just gasps.

[tishaLA]

1. To many in the audience, I think, the line about W was too far

he's just looking mean now, not funny, and they won't forgive them for that

There was something odd, though, about Jeb saying "my brother kept us safe. Remember the rubble?"

Uhhhhh. That was safe?

[Mike Daniels]

3. He doubled down with Bush

But Paul was trying to correct Trump's statement re the only one being against Iraq and Trump dismissed him out of hand.

I think Trump's shtick is wearing thin with the thinking crowd.

Still a lot of Pavlovian applause re Bush and 9/11 so full brain power is not operational though.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

26. The "thinking crowd"?

We're discussing the Republican primary in this thread.

No thinking necessary.

[daleanime]

28. Don't you mean....

'allowed'?

If you want to think you become a Democrat.

[underpants]

33. Yes that is their Pavlovian bell

It's the best thing that ever happened to them. Historians have already said as much about W's Presidency. They have tried and almost succeeded in making it their holiday.

9/11 affirmed everything they'd ever been told and it was BLAM BLAM time for war and killing. Wrap itself with some holy crusader BS and they were giddy with excitement. They basically danced on the graves at their 2004 convention in NYC.

[arcane1]

4. What did he say about W?

Based on former classmates on FB, they're tiring of Trump already and think Fiorina and Carson are the ass-kickers tonight.

[tishaLA]

7. I'm not going to remember it well, but it was to the effect of

"well, Jeb, your brother had a disastrous policy in Iraq and I was the only one on this stage to oppose it. And it was horrible."

Jeb replied that he didn't appreciate the attacks on his brother, who "kept us safe. Remember September 11?," seemingly unaware of the contradiction in what he had just said.

[arcane1]

11. Wow, Jeb's remark is such class-A doublethink that I'm almost impressed!

Almost

[lonestarnot]

31. His beautiful mind probably couldn't be bothered with those explosions and people jumping out

windows rather than burn and the smoldering heap that was left. Couldn't be bothered with any of those recollections.

[CTyankee]

32. Nobody in the media is picking up on that...I don't get it...

down the memory hole I guess...

[Mike Daniels]

8. I don't remember the quote but I think it was how Bush destabilized the region

It's true but the way it was delivered was beyond the pale by GOP standards

[redwitch]

19. Maybe Carson. If he didn't have problem with Quaaludes. nt

[underpants]

36. Carson?

He was barely even there. More than the first debate where he disappeared but still ....oh hell let's cut to it - he's their "black friend" and will be discarded once people start voting in primaries.

[fadedrose]

16. Jeb is delusional

As are many at the debate.

Even Reagan tried for some gun laws after his aide was shot and brain-damaged for life.

Also Reagan wasn't afraid to make treaties, not go make war on everybody. He made a lot of economical and other mistakes thanks to his handlers. But he had a nice smile, and that helped when it came to talking to other world leaders.

[Marie Marie]

2. Trump is coming across as a rank amateur tonight..

And that is against a whole stage of fools. That takes some doing.

[fadedrose]

17. I thought he did better than I expected...nt

[Volaris]

25. I did too..

At one point Rubio was trying to counter what Teh Donald was saying with actual pointed argument. It didn't work ( because that's NOT the Game Donald is playing).
Rubio seemed frustrated as all get, and he came off looking like a petulant child.

I will say this for him tho..He at least knows which fight is coming...said something about 'we KNOW what The Lefts answer to these problems is, and we know that it will be horrible for our economy...'

Not so much, kid, but at least you're throwing your punches in the right direction.

Paul did a good job, and if it weren't for jeb and trump being onstage, I think his message would have resonated.

Too bad Bernie is going to drink the FUCK out of his foreign policy and drug problem Milkshake lol

[world wide wally]

5. I think Trump is realizing his own mortality about now

Probably be dropping out soon so he can say "I was cleaning all their clocks, but I wanted to spend time with my family"

[nolabear]

6. I think so too. He looks like a rube with a big mouth.

I don't see how he can back out now but he can't keep up. And I think the others will come away with some real live ammo against him.

[world wide wally]

10. Maybe he can warm up for Don Rickles in Vegas

[titaniumsalute]

9. Well...to spend more time with his daughter at least. N/T

[redwitch]

20. Ick!

LOL!

[CTyankee]

35. ooohh...now you gone and done it!

it creeps me out...

[Volaris]

27. Yeah. If he really wants to do this, he will hire hiself some advisors.

I don't think he's stupid, but unless he can combine that bombast with some intelligent-sounding policy proposals (and nows the time to start) in short order he will be getting his own head handed to him =)

[underpants]

30. Yeah that's something no one will bring up

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Not the media or even competitors in a debate. He doesn't have a campaign. He has SOME staff and, I would guess, he has offices in Iowa, NH, SC but Not much. He is running in free airtime and he cites polls from the news. He doesn't appear to have any internal info or advice as you mentioned.

There is explanation of HOW he is going to do anything. When he says "my people" someone needs to ask "Who ARE these people?"

[Volaris]

37. That's right he's running a one-man show up there...

That's how badly governed dictatorships are run.
When he runs out of energy, it's over=)

[underpants]

38. Jeb was correct about one thing

You can't just insult your way to the nomination. Usually you have people like Rove to do that for you.

I edited my first comment - bad typing today.

[ladjf]

12. Trump had nothing to gain by denigrating Paul. Made him look almost

pathologically petty.

[Mike Daniels]

13. insulting McCain didn't hurt him

I think it was seen as a cheap shot as Paul got under his skin early on and all Paul was trying to do was correct an obvious falsehood.

That may be Trump's maccaaca moment for the primary.

[ladjf]

14. The big difference between those two attacks is that Trump pointed out that over the years

in the Senate, McCain had not stood up for veterans benefits, which is true. His silly remarks about McCain not being a hero were
counter productive, IMO.

The comments about Paul were just nonsensical.

[Skittles]

18. chicken hawks should never insult those who serve

Trump is sickening

[ladjf]

24. I don't disagree with that. nt

[wordpix]

22. I agree and it was so out of context

[fadedrose]

15. I think Paul did better this time

In front of all them republicans he reiterated his opinion that the Iraq was was wrong, and he said so at the time.

Let's give him some credit...

[wordpix]

23. he was great on the military adventurism all the rest love so well, & the pot

and Jebbie admitted to toking up "in high school"

[wordpix]

21. Trumpty Dump punches down when he shouldn't

He forgets he might need some of these people one day for his deal making. But the manure's about to hit the fan - tonight the rumblings about 4 bankruptcies, which Trump just laughed off like they were nothing.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

29. With the GOP base, no.

They love this kind of shit.

As for the audience, remember it was composed of supporters of each candidate and all were given an equal allotment of tickets.

So it's not going to be an accurate representation. A good chunk were rooting against Trump before they went in.

Over at Freeperville, they're still cheering him on as hard as ever. They also are going full misogyny on Fiorina, and calling her a b---h, comparing her to their ex-wives and throwing out every vile word you can think of this morning. They don't like their chosen one being challenged.

Trump has achieved full Palin in the GOP, and it's hard to see any scenario where the rightwing base lets go of their new cult leader. Facts and positions will mean nothing. All that matters is the gut feeling that drives them.

[muriel_volestrangler]

34. I don't see why referring to Paul's poll ratings would be a problem

Unlike the personal insults, calling McCain a loser for getting captured, the anti-Mexican racism, and so on, it's actually relevant to a debate - "Republicans don't want you as president". Aggressive, sure, but that's what the Republican hordes are lapping up.