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Pictures of the kid being arrested for possessing a clock. (Original Post) trumad Sep 2015 OP
Right Wing America - Killing Ingenuity And Creativity - Daily - What A Message For Children cantbeserious Sep 2015 #1
The real RocketBoy is giving him a free trip to Space Camp, and folks are working on a NASA peacebird Sep 2015 #2
I don't get it. What part is supposed to explode? ( n/t ) Make7 Sep 2015 #3
Exactly. herding cats Sep 2015 #8
The average kkkop these days hifiguy Sep 2015 #10
what did a door knob ever do to you? notadmblnd Sep 2015 #44
Holy shit rufus dog Sep 2015 #58
NASA tee shirt. Damn. nt MADem Sep 2015 #4
I know! He's so clearly a curious nerd. Friggin' racist bastards. nt valerief Sep 2015 #39
Many, many reasons why that photo is a problem nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #5
Welcome to the United Police State Of America! Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Initech Sep 2015 #6
This is how "terrorism" wins - when we turn on our own children nadine_mn Sep 2015 #7
Wow. Thanks for posting these photos! zappaman Sep 2015 #9
I thought I'd seen stupid cop actions before CanonRay Sep 2015 #11
I'm not as ready to condemn the teachers, administration, and police as quickly... cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #12
ROFLMAO. Brickbat Sep 2015 #16
It is a shame you are making such weak excuses for obvious racism. Rex Sep 2015 #18
His teachers are racist? The administration is racist? The cops are racist? cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #21
This in the same city that LanternWaste Sep 2015 #24
Gotcha. So they were all racists, right down to the black cop in the photo. n/t cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #35
Absurdum reductio... the last resort of the half-wit. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #37
You appeared to be condemning an entire town as racist. cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #50
One wonders: If Ahmed were Clay or Tyler, oh-so-white boy, with that Texas twang... Raster Sep 2015 #64
Looks like the cop slapping on the cuffs, doing the arresting, is white. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #65
Welcome to Texas. Rex Sep 2015 #36
Would you settle for stoopid? procon Sep 2015 #63
You mean the watch I have on my wrist... trumad Sep 2015 #19
What does a watch have to do with a homemade electronic timer? cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #26
Do you then apply that consistently to all wristwatches worn at school too? LanternWaste Sep 2015 #20
If he was wearing a Casio F-91W watch TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #22
Really. How would a radio look different? yardwork Sep 2015 #25
Pathetic malaise Sep 2015 #28
7 Kids Not Named Mohamed Who Brought Homemade Clocks to School And Didn't Get Arrested Go Vols Sep 2015 #30
Sounds like those were science fair projects. n/t cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #33
Right and his was an engineering project. Nice try. Rex Sep 2015 #40
Not sanctioned by the school, as the science fair projects were. cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #51
His engineering teacher gave them a project to make and he did. Rex Sep 2015 #55
Yes. I yearn for the day I'm worldly enough to run with a social media lynch mob. n/t cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #62
Bomb component? It looks like any board in upaloopa Sep 2015 #32
Yup. Just a board. Try bringing it on an airplane with that explanation. cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #49
So now an airplane and a public classroom are one and the same. Rex Sep 2015 #56
I'm a public school teacher. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #41
Former public school teacher, I second that condemnation. Rex Sep 2015 #43
OK. Let's say it's a timer tkmorris Sep 2015 #46
No, actually. I think everyone overreacted. cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #53
Racist---maybe not---Fucking stupid...oh yeah! trumad Sep 2015 #59
No it's not the same world I grew up in - it is much more fascist csziggy Sep 2015 #60
I'm ready to condemn Texas. This has everything to do with culture. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #66
Heartbreaking nt Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #13
Hmmmm! ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #14
But but...it has USB ports on it! NO doubt the kid...err...scary terrerist had the bomb at home! Rex Sep 2015 #42
TWO sets of cuffs?! bunnies Sep 2015 #15
The look on his face breaks my heart. Rex Sep 2015 #17
It's a what did I do look malaise Sep 2015 #31
To me, it is an angry look of knowing he did nothing wrong and finding out the world is lousy. Rex Sep 2015 #34
Whatever happened to minors' names being withheld in arrests? cwydro Sep 2015 #23
That looks a lot like the boards in newer model trains. upaloopa Sep 2015 #27
What the hell is wrong with us? Were so consumed with racism. SummerSnow Sep 2015 #29
That looks like child abuse. JEB Sep 2015 #38
His face makes me want to cry get the red out Sep 2015 #45
I know, it's heartbreaking. smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #67
ncis episode--kids that looked like him join isis--its the damn season cliffhanger dembotoz Sep 2015 #47
As the US falls further and further behind other countries in science and engineering ... Statistical Sep 2015 #48
That poor little baby! hamsterjill Sep 2015 #52
No! This is the clock he made. longship Sep 2015 #54
That doesn't look like a clock to me. Where is that picture from? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #57
It's an SBC of one flavor or another IDemo Sep 2015 #61
Silly, trumad. Everyone knows NASA stands for Nefarious Arab Society of America. Solly Mack Sep 2015 #68

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. The real RocketBoy is giving him a free trip to Space Camp, and folks are working on a NASA
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:37 PM
Sep 2015

Trip. The President has invited him to the White house.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
8. Exactly.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

Just because a clock resembles a timer, they lost their shit. Even though a timer is perfectly harmless unless it's attached to some form of explosives, of which there were none.

How in the hell could anyone, let alone teachers, a principal and several police, be so stupid as to not notice something so obvious?

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
58. Holy shit
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:38 PM
Sep 2015

I am looking at the device, the absolute worst thing I can imagine is a capacitor over heating and melting. You would get a puff of smoke and a bad smell.

How can someone look at that and think explosive device?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Many, many reasons why that photo is a problem
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:37 PM
Sep 2015

and why we would never, ever in a thousand years run it.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
7. This is how "terrorism" wins - when we turn on our own children
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:48 PM
Sep 2015

I read this story this morning and nearly wept. The surge for anti-intellectualism and rampant racism esp Islamophobia is killing us.

Don't you dare be smart, inventive, creative or show initiative...just march in line like quiet little (white) sheep.

I wish I knew a solution to this crap other than rounding up all the bigots, sticking them on an island and watch them turn on themselves.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
12. I'm not as ready to condemn the teachers, administration, and police as quickly...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:56 PM
Sep 2015

...as everyone else, I guess.

One person's clock is another person's timer, and timers can be used for cooking eggs or - yes, bombs.

If this kid had blown up a classroom in a week, and teachers and administration had known about this clock/timer without taking action, they would be thought to have a lot of blood on their hands.

Unfortunately, we don't live in a world where kids won't kill other kids, or one where kids can't make bombs. It's a shame the kid didn't build a radio, instead, or something that looked less like a bomb component.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
21. His teachers are racist? The administration is racist? The cops are racist?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:39 PM
Sep 2015

A lot of racists at that school, I guess.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. This in the same city that
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:46 PM
Sep 2015

Yeah... no racism here. Move along, move along.

The Irving city council endorsed one of several bills under discussion in the Texas Legislature that would forbid judges from rulings based on "foreign laws" — legislation opponents view as unnecessary and driven by anti-Muslim sentiment.

At a later council meeting, the turnout included some denouncing Islam. One woman declared "Sharia law is Islam, and Islam's goal is to immigrate, assimilate and annihilate." A man sitting in the audience shouted "That is offensive!" and was escorted out.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/muslim-boy-14-arrested-making-clock-mistaken-bomb-33793557

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
37. Absurdum reductio... the last resort of the half-wit.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:59 PM
Sep 2015

Absurdum reductio... the last resort of the half-wit. Not that you're a half-wit by any means... no doubt, you appear to be full of wit. Bear in mind, one of the officers, upon seeing him for the first time ever, said "Yup. That’s who I thought it was."

Though #21 may give us pause... it being the very same fallacy too. Low-hanging fruit bores me, as do absurd rationalizations. Continue as you feel compelled.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
64. One wonders: If Ahmed were Clay or Tyler, oh-so-white boy, with that Texas twang...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:56 PM
Sep 2015

...would the teachers and administrators be so quick to freak and call the police?

And FYI, I lived in Texas for 15 years, spent many a Sunday afternoon in Irving, drinking beers, smokin' weed and watching football.
Irving, TX racist? Surely you jest.

procon

(15,805 posts)
63. Would you settle for stoopid?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:56 PM
Sep 2015

It's hard to ignore that racism and bigotry aren't the root cause of this idiocy. If you fantasize that an egg timer is a terrorist weapon, then why not a radio too, or a cell phone, a laptop... it's a never ending conspiracy theory of paranoia.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
26. What does a watch have to do with a homemade electronic timer?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:50 PM
Sep 2015

Really, that's a ridiculous comparison.

Try walking in the White House for a tour wearing a watch, and another time carrying that electronic timer. This will help you understand what the difference between the two is.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Do you then apply that consistently to all wristwatches worn at school too?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

"One person's clock is another person's timer, and timers can be used for cooking eggs or - yes, bombs. "

Do you then apply that consistently to all wristwatches worn at school too? Or (and I find this more likely) will you insert a distinction lacking a difference to better validates your biases?

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
51. Not sanctioned by the school, as the science fair projects were.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:30 PM
Sep 2015

This clock was something he made at home, and brought to school.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
55. His engineering teacher gave them a project to make and he did.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:34 PM
Sep 2015

You are the only one outraged at this...so good luck with that! The rest of us see it for the obvious racism it is. Sorry if this is your first encounter with institutionalized racism...maybe read or go explore the world more.

Or don't, either way he did what he was told to do by his teacher. So you keep blaming the victim all you want to.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
32. Bomb component? It looks like any board in
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:54 PM
Sep 2015

any electronic toy today!
I am sorry but you just are way over the line. You could check out the board and not humiliate the kid!
It was an Islamic kid with a circuit board in Texas that equals possible terrorist!

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
49. Yup. Just a board. Try bringing it on an airplane with that explanation.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:26 PM
Sep 2015

I'm not saying the teachers, administration, and cops didn't overreact. What I am saying is that it's not as nuts as everyone seems to be making it out to be.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
56. So now an airplane and a public classroom are one and the same.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:35 PM
Sep 2015

Keep striking out, it is amusing to watch your excuses.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
41. I'm a public school teacher.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:02 PM
Sep 2015

I'm condemning this action and the system that went nuts and arrested the young man.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
46. OK. Let's say it's a timer
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:17 PM
Sep 2015

By itself, is that an excuse to arrest him? As you say, timers are used for, well, EVERYTHING, so simply possessing one hardly seems as if it should get a kid handcuffed.

Oh and BTW, radio receivers are EXCELLENT to use in building bombs. In most circumstances they would be superior to simple timers actually.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
53. No, actually. I think everyone overreacted.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:33 PM
Sep 2015

But I'm not as quick to accuse them of being racist and/or stupid. It's not the same world many of us grew up in.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
60. No it's not the same world I grew up in - it is much more fascist
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

FFS - this is ridiculous. No wonder kids are not going into the sciences or technology and that this country is not producing the engineers we need.

When I was was a kid, there were kids who were playing with rockets - Homer Hickman was among those - no way the schools of today, or at least the ones in Texas, would allow that! After all, what is a rocket but a bomb with a directed output? Where would NASA have been without kids who were allowed to use their ingenuity to learn on their own?

Our so called education system is too paranoid to recognize any ingenuity except what is "sanctioned by the school" as you put it in message 51. So according to that standard no child should ever attempt any independent projects unless they are carefully scrutinized and monitored by authorities?

Oh HELL NO.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
66. I'm ready to condemn Texas. This has everything to do with culture.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:05 PM
Sep 2015


And Texas can use a serious cultural revolution.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
14. Hmmmm!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015

No pulse switch. No primer. No initiator. No detonating chemical.

You know, i think this is a clock!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
42. But but...it has USB ports on it! NO doubt the kid...err...scary terrerist had the bomb at home!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:04 PM
Sep 2015

Dad probably made it out of spare car parts!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. The look on his face breaks my heart.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:16 PM
Sep 2015

OMG! THAT is what they cops went off about? THAT is what the teacher pissed all over himself about!? It is a USB adapter! There is nothing on the fucking thing that could be used as a bomb!

Wow...Irving Texas has some stupid fuckwads running it's school system and PD.

SUE.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
34. To me, it is an angry look of knowing he did nothing wrong and finding out the world is lousy.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:57 PM
Sep 2015

Part of being smart is carrying the burden of understanding. If he did not suspect America was full of racist morons, he knows it now and that has to be upsetting to someone intelligent.

As a former teacher, it breaks my heart to see that look. The loss of innocence.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
29. What the hell is wrong with us? Were so consumed with racism.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:54 PM
Sep 2015

40 years ago my brother took a homemade radio to school for show n tell. The teacher was amazed and she loved it. But we don't live in a world like that anymore.Were so screwed.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
47. ncis episode--kids that looked like him join isis--its the damn season cliffhanger
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:23 PM
Sep 2015

guess better to be safe and look stupid

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
48. As the US falls further and further behind other countries in science and engineering ...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:25 PM
Sep 2015

we lock up a smart creative kid for doing some science and engineering. His expression hurts my soul. Keep doing science Ahmed the world needs more people like you.

Also how mentally challenged is the teacher? Sorry if you are that stupid you shouldn't be a teacher. How exactly are students going to learn anything from someone who is clueless themselves.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
52. That poor little baby!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:31 PM
Sep 2015

That photo just makes me want to give him a hug. He's probably scared out of his wits at that moment.

longship

(40,416 posts)
54. No! This is the clock he made.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:33 PM
Sep 2015

Per the Irving PD, via BBC:


Looks pretty innocent to me, but I am an old electronics hacker.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
61. It's an SBC of one flavor or another
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:51 PM
Sep 2015

thank god they captured him before he did something horrible with it!!



Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
68. Silly, trumad. Everyone knows NASA stands for Nefarious Arab Society of America.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:32 PM
Sep 2015

Didn't they teach that to you in school?

Or did you get taught science like other evil doers?



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