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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsACTUAL STATEMENT from the Irving Police on why they arrested Ahmed Mohamed. Worse than fiction.
Last edited Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:42 PM - Edit history (5)
https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/644175344887574532/photo/1
He can't give a broader explanation because a clock is a f'ing CLOCK!
http://wnep.com/2015/09/16/texas-14-year-old-arrested-for-bringing-homemade-clock-to-school/
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UPDATED TO ADD:
Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House?
We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great.
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656
Assumptions and fear don't keep us safethey hold us back.
Ahmed, stay curious and keep building.
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/644167278196600832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
ANOTHER UPDATE:
Not a word of sympathy from the town mayor to the kid who was arrested for building a clock or his family
https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/644201717169569792/photo/1
the last sentence BOGGLED my mind, kp
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Uhhhhhhh because it was! I need a drink.
kpete
(71,997 posts)dem in texas
(2,674 posts)The city of Irving is afraid that the Muslims are out to get them. A recent city council meeting tried to pass an anti-sharia law, but failed. D (Dallas) Magazine published an article a few months back about the strong ant-muslim feelings in Irving. At the same time, Irving has the largest percentage of Hispanic residents of any city in the DFW area.
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7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)supporting the legislation being proposed at the time by state legislators in Austin. It passed and Mayor Beth became a national Tea Party darling.
It divided Irving and this is not going to go away quietly, not this time.
We are residents of Irving. Already called the school district and our council person. Outraged and embarrassed!!
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm pretty sure Grand Prairie has a higher Hispanic percentage than Irving.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Little do they know the prairie dogs are really out to get them!
TX is unbelievable! Such an embarrassment.... with very tiny pockets of nice places.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)staggerleem
(469 posts)Electronic clocks don't "tick".
Statistical
(19,264 posts)How plain and simple can it be.
tapermaker
(244 posts)what was of greater concern to the officers was the training manual found on the youth. it had many strange looking symbols inside, and had AL -Gebra on the cover.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Good one.
RoccoRyg
(260 posts)Algebra actually does come from Muslim history. The Arab mathematician Mohammad ibn-Musa al-Khowarizmi popularized it in the ninth century AD. The original name was al-jabr and it meant "the science of restoration."
catrose
(5,068 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)But only if the clock says "5pm" Then you can get bombed!
christx30
(6,241 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)He has enough initiative to try to come up with a better mousetrap and ends up in jail. They just don't want to admit his name had anything to do with it.
That PD doesn't have a bomb expert?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Kafka's writing has inspired the term "Kafkaesque", used to describe concepts and situations reminiscent of his work, particularly Der Process (The Trial) and "Die Verwandlung". Examples include instances in which bureaucracies overpower people, often in a surreal, nightmarish milieu which evokes feelings of senselessness, disorientation, and helplessness. Characters in a Kafkaesque setting often lack a clear course of action to escape a labyrinthine situation. Kafkaesque elements often appear in existential works, but the term has transcended the literary realm to apply to real-life occurrences and situations that are incomprehensibly complex, bizarre, or illogical
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kafka#Legacy
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I mean torture is effective and stuff.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Shelly Duvall in "Annie Hall".
Jim__
(14,077 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Seriously, this is completely insane. The Justice Department needs to investigate the school and the police department there.
I am ashamed of my country.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)mountain grammy
(26,625 posts)great quote!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Make republicanism illegal and jail every single one of them.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The cops are too incompetent to realize their level of incompetence.
erronis
(15,303 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)They don't bother doing any investigative work on their own. They are just stenographers with a gun. They will take down statements, but don't think to ask relevant questions. Which means that the right people, who know how to give the right answers are free to skirt the law.
Like this:
Young white male, DUI suspect gets stopped by a police.
Police officer: Let me see your driver's license son.
YWM: Hands police officer his application to college.
Police officer: Good school! Just be sure to drive straight home now, son.
- - - - - -
I hear there is a man named Lou in the back office that just watches episodes of Law and Order and is very well-versed on Police Interrogation methods.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)doing their job, they put off calling in the FBI long enough to interrogate the kid without his parents being in the room. A picture of the clock could have be sent to the FBI over a computer. It is easy to see the part in the clock that is easily replaced out when your PC goes out.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)As in "Muslim."
Takket
(21,578 posts)only question is, how much money are they going to get?
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)bringing in an expert to look at the clock. No arrest was needed.
This is exactly what is wrong today. Guilty until proven innocent or dead.
It was a clock---usually a bomb has explosives attached.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)everyone knows what a bomb looks like. I don't - my specialty is social studies not bomb making. And in case you did not read the rest - I did talk about the racist attitude of the people who immediately called him in to the police.
I haven't seen the clock but there are big clocks and small clocks. I once owned a grandfather clock that set on a shelf that could have held explosives.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)It looked absolutely nothing like a bomb. There's nothing in there to go boom. Everything in there are easily identifiable parts. Even in that potato of a picture I can tell what they are, and I'm neither a bomb expert nor an electronics expert.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)What's bizarre is how small it is. I kept thinking that was a briefcase, and someone pointed out to me on another forum that it's a pencil case.
bullsnarfle
(254 posts)that called the cops on him? And if so, what a doofus, time for a new line of work.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)bullsnarfle
(254 posts)I heard a good bit of the story on the news this morning, but I was running around trying to get ready for work and missed that part
jwirr
(39,215 posts)post regarding how really stupid this entire arrest was.
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)Is it counting up or down?
Up = Clock
Down = Bomb
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Bongo Prophet
(2,650 posts)then it is a VCR.
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)You and SwankyXomb win a cheese-flavored popsicle!
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)The police shouldn't have been involved at all. There was nothing to be involved about.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)shit I am getting? Do you all think it was justified? I would assume that there might actually be someone in the area who was a soldier? Or a clock maker? Or just a smart person? Even another student with brains?
This entire arrest was nothing more than harassment of a Muslim student.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Curious and creative teenager builds a clock, and they need a "broader explanation"?
How did people this stupid ever get put in a position of responsibility beyond changing the air fresheners in urinals?
(and, yeah, I *had* that job as a teenage janitor - I also built stuff just for fun sometimes)
hvn_nbr_2
(6,486 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)BarbaRosa
(2,684 posts)it's a clock. OK, it's a f@#king homemade digital clock.
I guess to the Irving Police if it's not a gun they have no clue as to what it might be.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Then again shouldn't you have to show some intelligence to be able to carry a gun?
avebury
(10,952 posts)school officials were just plain too stupid to understand that a 14 year old boy was a whole lot smarter then them.
Takket
(21,578 posts)Family set up a twitter account @IStandwithAhmed to post updates. They are going to make life a living hell for that police department, just as the police made life a living hell for their child. good for them. Every time this shit is exposed nationally we get a little closer to meaningful reform. don't know when it will come, but the tidal wave is growing
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I hope he sues them all.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Then the taxpayers of Irving will be seeing their tax dollars used in settlement of a lawsuit. It's sad, but that IS the only real recourse here.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)He can sue the school and the cops and get free college out of this.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)One of the reasons I ended up leaving LE work is I was being forced into a School Resource Officer job- and those suck when the school administrations suck. You become the dumping ground for every situation they should be handling as the administrators of the school but they pass off to you to avoid responsibility- but then your career and future is tied to how they rate your performance to you department so if you don't just do their crap work the way they want your career is at risk.
The cops responding were idiots, and need to be disciplined. But the bigger idiots were the school administrators who elevated this to be a police matter in the first place. That never should have happened. Teachers are supposed to be educated leaders, but more and more they act like mindless drones incapable of using reason and resolving problems and instead just a calling the police to do their job for them.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)This is exactly how we get first graders in hand cuffs.
erronis
(15,303 posts)The republicans (school boards, local and state governments, lobbyists, corps) don't want successful public schools. They want to keep strangling the public resources so the money can be spent on for-profit schools.
If this poor kid was a student at a christian/charter school, this wouldn't have happened. BECAUSE he wouldn't have been allowed in at all (no open enrollment for certain types.)
Makes me wonder how many upper-class folks send their children to these knock-off christian/charter schools?
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I know, I know...we read bat shit crazy stuff like this every day from all around the country; but it seems like 70% is from Texas, another 25% is from some other part of dixieland, and the remaining 5% happens in other parts of the U.S. (Probably involving people who have moved from Texas).
tblue37
(65,409 posts)Blame the administrators, not the cops. It's easy to talk about the "stupidity" of the police but after Columbine etc... they'd be equally criticized if they didn't take calls from school administrators seriously...even the stupid ones. Besides, this is Texas.
Also I saw this kid on Up With Chris Hayes and he's not very articulate, maybe a slightly autistic genius. I think when the cops asked him what it was, he probably just kept saying it's a clock instead of saying "I built it from this...got the idea from this...showed it to my science teacher, etc..."
The interview with Chris Hayes is actually frustrating because the kid seems to lack the gift of conversation-again, probably a slightly autistic genius. The school administrators should have protected him.
Device starts beeping loudly in English class, What is it? It's a clock. But what is it? It's a clock. Ad naseum.
edgineered
(2,101 posts)It looks like a kitchen timer and a few batteries. What next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Yg8MqjoFvy4#t=10
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Appeals to common sense, decency and so on don't often work. The only thing they understand is $$$.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Takket
(21,578 posts)An ak-47 would have gotten him an A+ in civics class for demonstrating a constitutional right.
randys1
(16,286 posts)some white folks.
OnlinePoker
(5,722 posts)These days, he would be in jail for years. While in jail for the one night, he taught the other prisoners to commit criminal assault.
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-wozniak-in-jail-fake-bomb-2011-10
NBachers
(17,122 posts)I had a fake beard, sun glasses, a beret, and black anarchist clothes on. I got on the bus and yelled that I had a bomb and I was hijacking the school bus. I walked down the aisle yelling, "This is a bomb. I'll blow this bus up."
All that happened is people sighed, rolled their eyes, or looked away and tried to ignore me. No cops, no jail.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Fucking imbeciles.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)leave secede? I'd chip in a few bucks and I don't have a lot of extra cash.
Rex
(65,616 posts)No crimes around town?
El Shaman
(583 posts)the 'Barney Fife Syndrome '.
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)... then the Inquisition would just torture you until you did confess. Er, use enhanced interrogation methods, I mean, one of which was virtually identical to waterboarding. If you persisted in refusing to confess, they would eventually, with great reluctance, hand you over to the civil authorities (with a plea for mercy) to be burned alive. If you were good and confessed, then they'd strangle you first so you wouldn't suffer.
It is all about authority and power, and nothing else. The truth is incidental.
-- Mal
barbtries
(28,799 posts)to choose more intelligent candidates for police officer positions.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)MANative
(4,112 posts)And they saw that he had both an associate's and a bachelor's degree, the captain called him and strongly discouraged him from continuing his application. Said he'd be "bored stiff" in an intellectually unchallenging job. Hubby continued, joined the force, spent twelve years there. Had the lowest percentage of arrests on the force, but also the least complaints and the highest number of resolutions because he actually used his brain and education to be a good cop.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)and for all the good cops to quit looking the other way when their co-workers commit bad acts.
i was recalling the case where a man was turned down because his IQ was too high - he sued and lost.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
tclambert
(11,087 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Orrex
(63,216 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Those were great tweets
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)How anybody could think a circuit board could be a clock is beyond me. If he had carried it around connected to dynamite, maybe. But he DIDN'T.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)I hadn't considered that.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)When it comes to kids, no one beats this President. Hes so freakin awesome.
elljay
(1,178 posts)Maybe he was inspired by his most intelligent ex-Governor, Rick Perry, who recently informed us that "a broken clock is right once a day." Ahmed is making a good case for his being the smartest person in Texas.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)He was like, Thats really nice, Ahmed said. I would advise you not to show any other teachers.
He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.
She was like, it looks like a bomb, he said.
I told her, It doesnt look like a bomb to me.
The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldnt get it back.
They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer hed never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: Yup. Thats who I thought it was.
Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his name one of the most common in the Muslim religion. But the police kept him busy with questions.
The bell rang at least twice, he said, while the officers searched his belongings and questioned his intentions. The principal threatened to expel him if he didnt make a written statement, he said.
They were like, So you tried to make a bomb? Ahmed said.
I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.
He said, It looks like a movie bomb to me.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-family-adjusting-to-ahmed-mohamed-s-sudden-fame-as-police-announce-no-charges-for-clock-deemed-hoax-bomb.ece
I hope everyone involved in it this gets sued for profiling this kid. This isn't a movie, this is real life and people need to wake up and remember how to tell the difference.
kpete
(71,997 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his namehttps://twitter.com/anildash/status/644020453724585984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
herding cats
(19,565 posts)This isn't how it should be in this country, but what should be and what is are worlds apart.
Ahmed's grandmother said, "I thank God there's nothing people can say but (that) we are good people." Just let that sink in for a minute. Consider how no one in this family did anything wrong. Think about living a life where you're always walking on eggshells because you know you could be falsely accused of something at anytime for who you are, and are held to a higher bar than people who aren't a minority.
This is what being a minority in America is like. The prejudices may vary depending on what minority group a person comes from, but the premise is the same.
This is what we need to change, not just for Ahmed, but for every person in this country who are forced live a life where racism and/or bigotry like this is a daily reality.
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)I'd like to know if they contacted his parents during any of this?
BumRushDaShow
(129,118 posts)6 year old black girl
Many LOE routinely consider POC as literal animals. There is no humanization of POC that has been taught or indoctrinated in them.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)It sounds like the line from a bad 1980s spoof film but no it came from a law enforcement officer. I mean there is stupid and then there is stupid.
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)I think I'm getting tourette's right now... How #@$%()*@&)(#% stupid to these people get?
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)with a badge.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)So great that he invited this kid to the Whitehouse.
This man keeps making me proud to have supported him.
Something in our policing system is so terribly broken. They seem to operate on pure fear these days.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I'm beginning to believe many Texans are the real terrorists in this country. Weren't the 9/11 hijackers from Texas? Not sure on that one, but it seems to ring a bell.
I'm reading more damned stories of atrocities and blatant ignorance and bigotry coming from that flat, ugly, oil-smelling wasteland of a state every day.
I say it's time we restrict travel FROM Texas. Those idiots I'm reading about are spreading their stupidity across the country, and it's making us all less safe.
Think about it; Tom delay, Louie gohmert, Karl rove, Rick Perry, Ted Cruz...not to mention the police state of racist and thug walking badges all over the ghastly place.
This is part parody and part reality.
Because fighting bigotry with bigotry is always the right answer.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)to see if they have any functional brain cells.
merrily
(45,251 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)stupid and incompetent
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)But I wouldn't be at all surprised.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Poor kid.
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)In "the greatest democracy the world has ever seen", he gets to have the "honor" of being detained, interrogated and fingerprinted for his audacity. This is your racist police state hard at work, folks. Same as it ever was.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Warpy
(111,277 posts)on being ignorant, provincial shitheads.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Violence and Sufism go together like oil and water.
wingzeroday
(189 posts)Look like a Mooninite?
That would explain everything.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)cigsandcoffee
(2,300 posts)...before this controversy, he'd likely have been tackled, shackled, and sent to Gitmo.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Anyone would have been tackled rather than simply brown people... that being the relevant difference.
PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)Here's a broader explanation:
I've built a clock. Clocks help people tell time. Since I need to tell time, this clock will help me. Plus, the clock LOOKS cool, and I'm proud of it because I built it.
Of course, these school people and police seem to be morons. Do you think anyone ever taught them to tell time from an analog clock? OK, when the BIG HAND is on the 12 and the LITTLE HAND is on the 1 then it is one o'clock!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)it's really an interdimensional transportation device that has obviously sent me the the Dimension of Stupid, but I doubt that would have gone over very well.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)He's only 14, so he could not possibly know that the average cop cannot recognize the difference between a clock and a bomb. You know the expression "...doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground." That pretty much sums it up.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Are SOOOO desperate for some terrorist activity...it's like all they live for.
Disgraceful treatment of this young man...the teachers are just as stupid.
There should be a long line of morons apologizing.
Oh...and built it for an engineering class! Duh!
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)when he brings this as a science project:
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Top Model" .
PERHAPS THIS COP REALLY DID NOT KNOW---I'M SERIOUS---WHAT "CLOCK" MEANT IN TERMS OF WHAT HE WAS LOOKING AT.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,578 posts)this smacks of it in action.........
kpete
(71,997 posts)needs to be repeated
every single day
gordianot
(15,242 posts)What language do they speak in Texas?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)We speak a combination of under-educated red-neck and sub-literate half-wit. We do like to over use the semi-colon, though...
gordianot
(15,242 posts)Every day when that (in this case arresting police) gets up in the morning looks in the mirror, they shave their ass.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)bars for the electrical electronic stuff he built in 60's. Not to mention the chemical stuff he used to do with his chem sets. My folks encouraged it all.
My sympathies to this young man. He already can run circles around the local keystone cops.
kpete
(71,997 posts)about why they kept mr pete in the basement
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)What the hell is happening to this country? CNN has a short clip that shows the clock, and it's pretty confusing to someone who doesn't know electronics, but why would a kid come to school to show his teachers a bomb? He would just bring it and blow it up somewhere, not try to draw attention to it first.
This is so sad, it makes me want to cry. What has this country become. I hope Obama is sending his family tickets to fly to the Whitehouse. They should be honored for putting up with this shit so nicely.
Here is the link that shows the clock in the short clip
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/
"They arrested me and they told me that I committed the crime of a hoax bomb, a fake bomb," the freshman later explained to WFAA after authorities released him.
GOOD!The President would like the teen to join him and other scientists next month for the White House's annual Astronomy Night, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Wednesday.
underpants
(182,830 posts)So, then there's that
underpants
(182,830 posts)Okay that's enough. Arrest him.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)You might want to take a good look outside your window, and see this is what happens when you FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS!
procon
(15,805 posts)"It was an English teacher who got spooked and reported Ahmed to the principal, the police said."
...
He recalled showing one teacher the clock and her telling him that she thought it was "nice" but he shouldn't show other instructors, according to the paper. The teen put the clock in his bookbag but an alarm beeped in the middle of 6th period and Ahmed showed the teacher what he had, the newspaper reported.
"She was like, it looks like a bomb," he said.
"I told her, 'It doesn't look like a bomb to me.'"
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/
purpledarts
(3 posts)I cant believe they arrested a kid for something like this!
valerief
(53,235 posts)They didn't bother asking the teacher? How racistly convenient.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The teacher instantly went Jade Helm 15 on the student.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Not his engineering or science teacher.
valerief
(53,235 posts)herding cats
(19,565 posts)The engineer teacher told him it was very nice, but he'd better not show any other teachers. It was his English teacher who turned it into the principal.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-family-adjusting-to-ahmed-mohamed-s-sudden-fame-as-police-announce-no-charges-for-clock-deemed-hoax-bomb.ece
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)It's a clock. It marks the passage of time. It breaks the day into seconds, minutes, hours ... you iffin a-holes !
DrBulldog
(841 posts). . . are morons. Think of that. Morons are protecting us!
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Huckabee would magically appear and hand him a blue ribbon award for his ingenuity.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)The science teacher thought it was cool. The English teacher thought it was a bomb.
I've heard education students say that they shouldn't have to learn algebra or science in order to teach music or English. I think this story shows why that might not be a good idea.
ut oh
(895 posts)The police are so stupid they don't know what a clock is???
And to think a teacher reported it.... a teacher stupid enough to not understand what a clock is should not be teaching.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)onethatcares
(16,172 posts)they don't have science fairs in Texas. What a bunch of backwoods yeehaws,
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)4lbs
(6,858 posts)It's something regarding the police....
Oh, and the same to the Irving person(s) who had their knee JERK reaction seeing a Muslim kid with an electronic device.
They probably would have thought the same thing if he had an opened up cell phone.
Irving Idiot: "Hey, Ahmed! Whatcha doin' with that cell phone?"
Ahmed: "Calling my father."
Irving Idiot: "Uh huh, right. I thinks you gonna set off a bommm! Ware doze cops at?"
niyad
(113,356 posts)make me that stupid.
that poor kid--knowing the police these days, he is lucky to be alive.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... and uses BULLSHIT reasons and actions to try and rationalize his belief in that, then the kid has just as much reason if not more that the cop was also a criminal like so many other cops have been found to have been who have brutalized people of color and killed them as murderers do too.
Why didn't the cop at least call someone like a bomb squad that could look at it before taking the kid in to custody, and if the kid's device is "suspicious", why shouldn't any other devices at the fair also have been checked to make sure that we don't have other terrorists in that fair too, whether they are white or some other ethnicity. We certainly have had more white terrorists in our country committing crimes than Muslims in terms of numbers over the last decade. If they are worried about such a thing, perhaps in advance they should have arranged to have such an expert on hand to inspect all of the different exhibits in a non-partisan fashion to ensure everyone's safety. Might have been overreactive and overprotective, but arguably a much better and judicious way of doing it if you are worried about the possibilities of such problems happening.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)Always cause the police to overreact, especially in the slave states, and more so when police feel threatened by a 15 year old nerd with darker skin and a Muslim name. They was skeered. Now they'll make a disability claim for PTSD.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)5th Amendment.
We're done here.
RecoveringJournalist
(148 posts)Hey, if guns were allowed in school this wouldn't have happened...
Hotler
(11,427 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)if the officers couldn't make a clock, the officers thought, how could this kid?
How narrow-minded and mean can you get?
Homeland security concerns run amok.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Wait.
He built his family too?
He's a GENIUS!
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)I would bid on it!
mackerel
(4,412 posts)attention of the school principal. The school principal thought it would be better to back a stupid teacher-god knows public school is full of them-and call the po po. The po po decided that following the law wasn't needed here, instead they would interrogate a child under the age of 18 without their parent, guardian or advocate. Then also decided that when he asked for his parent that they would illegally deny him his right to have his parent present. The school decided they too would break every public school rule in place and allow all of this to happen.
I'm not sure why we even have laws, rules or regulations. People with the smallest amount of authority continually break all the rules they are suppose to follow.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)When those students are children, even more so.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)Guilty of not being white.
That's more than enough reason to get shot or beaten to death.
I wish it was unbelievable, but obviously it isn't.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Their investigative state is to lie to you, and if you tell the truth, they're so incredulous, they invent up a lie.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Hey, Ahmed, I'd like to borrow your clock for our many power outages! And let's collaborate on building the next best slot car track (I loved that at your age - and it was always the really smart kids that had the best cars!)
demwing
(16,916 posts)till he voluntarily admitted it was a bomb
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Posted it in hidden OP thread so thought would put it here
The case is a Vaultz Locking Pencil Box, 8.25 x 5.5 x 2.5 Inches,
About the size of a kid's lunch box.
http://www.amazon.com/Vaultz-Locking-Pencil-Inches-VZ01479/dp/B001BXZ28K
Here is what he actually built
Here is an article about it
http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)....if you discount the fact that there's nothing in there to, you know, explode.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)They would likely think it contained parts from the guts of a UFO.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)if they saw some to the electronics gadgets that my best friend and I made when we were kids in Brooklyn.
We used to scavenge the old TVs that people left on the sidewalk for garbage pickup back in the 60s. They were all tubes. We really stripped some of them down to barely anything and would build all sorts of weird stuff with them. We had no money, but were curious, and had schematics. We made musical things, light up things, radio things. With all the tubes strewn out on a raw circuit, powered by 110 VAC most of the time, I'm sure that they would think that they would be some sort of destructive thing today.
I think the kid should be praised for his curiosity and ability to build. We need to get him to a Maker meeting. Anyone know of one in his area? He would love it, and they would love him.
As far as the Dallass police are concerned. They are nuts, plain and simple.
Dr Rise
(99 posts)the kid was not allowed to demonstrate the device was, in fact, a clock because
they thought he was also a kid suicide bomber. #Mindset