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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:17 PM Sep 2015

ACTUAL STATEMENT from the Irving Police on why they arrested Ahmed Mohamed. Worse than fiction.

Last edited Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:42 PM - Edit history (5)




https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/644175344887574532/photo/1

He can't give a broader explanation because a clock is a f'ing CLOCK!
http://wnep.com/2015/09/16/texas-14-year-old-arrested-for-bringing-homemade-clock-to-school/


.....


UPDATED TO ADD:

President Barack Obama:

Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House?
We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great.


https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656




Hillary Clinton to Ahmed Mohamed:

Assumptions and fear don't keep us safe—they hold us back.
Ahmed, stay curious and keep building.


https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/644167278196600832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



ANOTHER UPDATE:

Not a word of sympathy from the town mayor to the kid who was arrested for building a clock or his family


https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/644201717169569792/photo/1
the last sentence BOGGLED my mind, kp





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ACTUAL STATEMENT from the Irving Police on why they arrested Ahmed Mohamed. Worse than fiction. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2015 OP
"He would simply only tell us that it was a clock" damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #1
If..... kpete Sep 2015 #2
Perfect! G_j Sep 2015 #9
A Strong Tea Party Movement in Irving dem in texas Sep 2015 #41
The Irving city council passed a controversial resolution 7wo7rees Sep 2015 #67
Call the police department as well dbackjon Sep 2015 #85
I'm pretty sure Grand Prairie has a higher Hispanic percentage than Irving. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #98
the Muslims are out to get them AlbertCat Sep 2015 #159
+2. Like that. closeupready Sep 2015 #74
Well, almost pefect. staggerleem Sep 2015 #75
yeah I would say "shows time like a clock" n/t Statistical Sep 2015 #153
Awesome! Paka Sep 2015 #161
Read this one on another site tapermaker Sep 2015 #70
Nice! Hahaha Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2015 #96
Funny you should mention that... RoccoRyg Sep 2015 #147
<SNORT!> Now I need a new keyboard n/t catrose Sep 2015 #156
"I need a drink." KansDem Sep 2015 #111
There's a clock somewhere in the world that says 5PM. n/t christx30 Sep 2015 #186
That kid had to have been terrified, considering the stupid things happening today in our PDs. Frustratedlady Sep 2015 #3
One word: Kafkaesque. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #4
indeed Fast Walker 52 Sep 2015 #6
They should just hold him under water to see if he was a witch too! nt TheBlackAdder Sep 2015 #30
Just waterboard him until he confesses! Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2015 #97
+1 TubbersUK Sep 2015 #127
"Making love to you is very kafkaesque." AlbertCat Sep 2015 #160
Do the police feel stupid? Or do they actually believe they're doing their job? - n/t Jim__ Sep 2015 #5
I'm sure many of them think they were just doing their job Fast Walker 52 Sep 2015 #7
The Irving police are too stupid to know that they are stupid csziggy Sep 2015 #10
Dunning-Kruger handmade34 Sep 2015 #23
Yeahup..... daleanime Sep 2015 #26
That's what I've been trying to say! mountain grammy Sep 2015 #65
Don't be ashamed of your country. pangaia Sep 2015 #130
Dunning-Kruger Effect. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #19
That's why we only hire those! Don't want no intelligent ones... erronis Sep 2015 #36
By design. Read this. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #134
It's times like these when the question of who is allowed to reproduce should be raised! nt TheBlackAdder Sep 2015 #31
Interrogation is a skill the police department has lost. Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #8
A big FBI office is a few miles east, in Dallas. Bomb experts are there. Instead of police DhhD Sep 2015 #178
A Clockwork Brown Octafish Sep 2015 #11
slam dunk civil rights violation lawsuit for that family Takket Sep 2015 #12
Geek Dad: We Stand With Ahmed – An Open Letter to Ahmed Mohamed HuckleB Sep 2015 #13
Stupid. It could have been easily settled simply by jwirr Sep 2015 #14
An expert? trumad Sep 2015 #73
I was thinking of a science teacher. I suspect not jwirr Sep 2015 #86
Well damn, I can't get the picture to display. JoeyT Sep 2015 #105
Here is a picture: Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #138
Thanks! JoeyT Sep 2015 #144
I thought it was his (science?) teacher bullsnarfle Sep 2015 #177
He brought it to show his Science teacher. But it was his English teacher who called the cops. nt ieoeja Sep 2015 #179
Ah-ha, thanks... bullsnarfle Sep 2015 #189
Thank you. That was what I was getting at in my first jwirr Sep 2015 #183
Also, there's Steinbaugh's Bomb/Clock Test: Dr. Strange Sep 2015 #99
What if it only flashes "12:00" constantly? kentauros Sep 2015 #135
If it flashes "12:00"... Bongo Prophet Sep 2015 #148
Brilliant! Dr. Strange Sep 2015 #150
Then it's a VCR SwankyXomb Sep 2015 #149
wtf? Where was the expert supposed to materialize from? Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #173
All I said is the this whole arrest was stupid. Why all the jwirr Sep 2015 #184
"A broader explanation"? jberryhill Sep 2015 #15
"broader explanation" = "tell us what our fear and hate want to hear." nt hvn_nbr_2 Sep 2015 #29
He didn't explain why the clock used ARABIC numerals on it! jberryhill Sep 2015 #43
HA! Roland99 Sep 2015 #80
I doubt they even know that. nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #125
That's what got me, BarbaRosa Sep 2015 #101
Now be nice, cops are hired stupid and stay stupid. The school officials on the other hand... A Simple Game Sep 2015 #117
A broader explanation was needed because the cops and avebury Sep 2015 #175
twitter account Takket Sep 2015 #16
Their stupidity is so effing embarrassing... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #17
Yes, he needs a good attorney. hamsterjill Sep 2015 #20
Thankfully, his story went viral, so he'll get some damned good attorneys. backscatter712 Sep 2015 #50
Idiots. School admins and the cops Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #18
Absolutely. You are right. hamsterjill Sep 2015 #21
Teachers educated leaders - NOT, because that's not how the repugs want them. erronis Sep 2015 #40
Please remember....this is Texas Hulk Sep 2015 #62
Have you forgotten Florida Man? He gives Texas folks a run for their money. nt tblue37 Sep 2015 #171
Agree 100% mark67 Sep 2015 #182
Opening scene from 'Touch of Evil' 1958 edgineered Sep 2015 #22
Sue them into the fucking ground. nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #24
That's about the only thing these idiots understand is $$$ 47of74 Sep 2015 #123
"What clocks do?" "How do you clock?" DirkGently Sep 2015 #25
Cops have to be the dumbest people on the planet. blackspade Sep 2015 #27
if the kid was white, a clock would have been a clock. it is that simple randys1 Sep 2015 #28
If the kid was white Takket Sep 2015 #48
Probably...although, nowadays cops shoot first and ask questions later even with randys1 Sep 2015 #60
Steve Wozniak built a fake bomb in high school, got caught and spent a night in Juvie. OnlinePoker Sep 2015 #145
I brought a paper mache ball onto the school bus. It was painted black, had a fuse, and "BOMB" on it NBachers Sep 2015 #168
I hate saying it, but he's lucky they didn't beat the shit out of him. arcane1 Sep 2015 #32
Are all Texas Law Enforcement Officers and Teachers morons? It sure seem like it. Can we pay them to OregonBlue Sep 2015 #33
Just goes to show some entire PDs are full of stupid cops with nothing to do. Rex Sep 2015 #34
It's called : El Shaman Sep 2015 #172
Back in the bad old days, if you wouldn't confess you were a heretic... malthaussen Sep 2015 #35
i think it may be time barbtries Sep 2015 #37
Past time actually damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #83
When my husband applied to the police academy many years ago, MANative Sep 2015 #106
that's what we need. barbtries Sep 2015 #118
If he'd said it was a gun, they would have had to let him go. tclambert Sep 2015 #38
Nope, not for brown people they wouldn’t nt dorkzilla Sep 2015 #42
These cops have their clock stuck in 1950. Orrex Sep 2015 #39
I love the fact that President Obama and Sec. Clinton both reached out to this young man Gothmog Sep 2015 #44
I have posted it twice already and will again, it is so lovely: Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #139
Did they think it was an exploding CIRCUIT BOARD??? navarth Sep 2015 #45
Have you never watched Star Trek? Those computers blow up and shit, dude! n/t ieoeja Sep 2015 #180
to be honest, navarth Sep 2015 #181
I love the President’s tweet dorkzilla Sep 2015 #46
Ahmed's inspiration elljay Sep 2015 #47
I saw in the DMN about this. herding cats Sep 2015 #49
This is what we do to OUR children: kpete Sep 2015 #52
A bright child who did nothing wrong learned an ugly lesson in racism herding cats Sep 2015 #66
Wow! 14-years-old carted off in handcuffs. Sweet Freedom Sep 2015 #120
Juvenile POC are regularly handcuffed and carted off BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #137
"It looks like a movie bomb to me" Statistical Sep 2015 #162
Jeebus Effin' Christ! Daemonaquila Sep 2015 #51
Most of the time a clock is just a clock, and quite often, a fuckwit with a badge is just a fuckwit Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #53
God I love our president Egnever Sep 2015 #54
It's time to screen ALL Texans before they leave their beloved state... Hulk Sep 2015 #55
Yes ShrimpPoboy Sep 2015 #87
Screen them all RoccoR5955 Sep 2015 #188
The asshat kid didn't realize he had to explain to adults what a clock is/does. Put him in Gitmo! merrily Sep 2015 #56
If cops don't want people to think theyre stupid and incompetent, they should try to stop being KG Sep 2015 #57
Dear Officers Stupid. I hope our kids don't have reason to regret your ignorance. jtuck004 Sep 2015 #58
This country continues to find new ways to scare me. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #59
In a civilized country this boy would have gotten a high-five and support to continue innovating. Daniel537 Sep 2015 #61
I can picture some idiot saying, "If he wanted to avoid trouble he would have bought a clock." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #63
Ignorant, provinicial shitheads always double down Warpy Sep 2015 #64
What makes this whole story triply absurd is that the family is SUFI. MADem Sep 2015 #68
Does the other side of the circuit board wingzeroday Sep 2015 #69
kick Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #71
Nice in retrospect, but if he'd tried to bring that thing in the White House... cigsandcoffee Sep 2015 #72
Anyone would have been tackled... that being the relevant difference. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #115
Wow. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #76
He should have said NewJeffCT Sep 2015 #77
Ahmed's mistake HassleCat Sep 2015 #78
Stupid flipp'n Militia Police... SoapBox Sep 2015 #79
She's a Trumpster ... GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #81
Gee, I wonder what would have happened if he came to school with a clock? nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #95
Right Wing America - Killing Ingenuity And Creativity - Daily - What A Message For Children cantbeserious Sep 2015 #82
They're probably go apeshit d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #84
This reminds me of the model who had no idea what the word "profile" means ("America's Next WinkyDink Sep 2015 #88
Attention anyone who thinks white privelege is a myth, Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2015 #89
thanks Dyedinthewoolliberal kpete Sep 2015 #92
This young man's mastery of (American) English far exceeds the Police. gordianot Sep 2015 #90
We speak a combination of under-educated red-neck and sub-literate half-wit. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #100
This reminds me of an old insult I heard about the age of the young man 50 years ago that fits. gordianot Sep 2015 #109
In today's crazy climate of ineptitude, my blond brother would have been behind LuckyLib Sep 2015 #91
my mother-in-law tells stories kpete Sep 2015 #94
#IStandWithAhmed L. Coyote Sep 2015 #93
I couldn't tell this from the OP, but passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #102
And the former Gov. of Texas (Perry) said a broken clock was right ONCE a day underpants Sep 2015 #103
What is it? It's a clock. WHAT IS it! It's a clock. WHAT IS IT!!! It's a clock underpants Sep 2015 #104
Fuck it, dude. Time for Plan B. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #124
The school turned him in! procon Sep 2015 #107
Horrible purpledarts Sep 2015 #108
Why wouldn't they believe the science teacher the kid brought it in to? valerief Sep 2015 #110
Much worse than that, the teacher turned him in. Rex Sep 2015 #119
Just to clarify, it was his English teacher that turned him in tammywammy Sep 2015 #142
Right! valerief Sep 2015 #151
That was a different teacher. herding cats Sep 2015 #143
Would cops have accepted ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #112
i think we have to finally accept the fact that a large fraction of American police . . . DrBulldog Sep 2015 #113
If he were a white evangelical Christian ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #114
If I were that mayor, my first concern would be obvious brain damage in teachers and police Demeter Sep 2015 #116
This is so fucked up on so many levels. Initech Sep 2015 #121
There is only one level.....institutionalized bigotry and racism...all fuelled by a negligent media. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #126
And don't forget the American Police State. Initech Sep 2015 #136
No, there's another level: scientific ignorance. Dr. Strange Sep 2015 #155
So basically ut oh Sep 2015 #122
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #128
it's highly apparent onethatcares Sep 2015 #129
Danger; the british appear to have developed some sort of bomb AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #131
You know what N.W.A. says? 4lbs Sep 2015 #132
I tried making sense of what the report said, have concluded that there is not enough alcohol to niyad Sep 2015 #133
If this cop thinks this kid is a "terrorist"... cascadiance Sep 2015 #140
Honesty and innocence The Wizard Sep 2015 #141
He actually doesn't owe them any explanation at all bluestateguy Sep 2015 #146
Now I understand RecoveringJournalist Sep 2015 #152
Fucking cops. n/t Hotler Sep 2015 #154
Racism and. Ethnic and religious prejudice plus stupidity. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #157
to the kid who was arrested for building a clock or his family AlbertCat Sep 2015 #158
He should auction it off after getting Obama to autograph it! Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #163
So a jealous teacher brought this to the mackerel Sep 2015 #164
A good many teachers do not like it when they are outsmarted by their students bluestateguy Sep 2015 #167
Irving Police = Clock Blockers. eom. berni_mccoy Sep 2015 #165
This kid is lucky to be alive mikehiggins Sep 2015 #166
Police are liars, they are told everyone lies. joshcryer Sep 2015 #169
Isn't it nice to know that these people "serve and protect"................... raven mad Sep 2015 #170
I'm surprised they didn't waterboard him demwing Sep 2015 #174
Here is information and photos of what he built CBGLuthier Sep 2015 #176
Sure, it looks like a bomb..... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #185
If these folks ever poked their head inside a PC case IDemo Sep 2015 #193
I couldn't imagine what they would do RoccoR5955 Sep 2015 #187
Another sad thing about it is the probability Dr Rise Sep 2015 #190
why can't anyone produce a picture of this "clock" ? I'm dying to see what this thing looks like. frankieallen Sep 2015 #191
Found a picture! how do i insert into my post? frankieallen Sep 2015 #192

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
41. A Strong Tea Party Movement in Irving
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:34 PM
Sep 2015

The city of Irving is afraid that the Muslims are out to get them. A recent city council meeting tried to pass an anti-sharia law, but failed. D (Dallas) Magazine published an article a few months back about the strong ant-muslim feelings in Irving. At the same time, Irving has the largest percentage of Hispanic residents of any city in the DFW area.
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7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
67. The Irving city council passed a controversial resolution
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:14 PM
Sep 2015

supporting the legislation being proposed at the time by state legislators in Austin. It passed and Mayor Beth became a national Tea Party darling.

It divided Irving and this is not going to go away quietly, not this time.

We are residents of Irving. Already called the school district and our council person. Outraged and embarrassed!!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
98. I'm pretty sure Grand Prairie has a higher Hispanic percentage than Irving.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:04 PM
Sep 2015

I'm pretty sure Grand Prairie has a higher Hispanic percentage than Irving.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
159. the Muslims are out to get them
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:38 PM
Sep 2015

Little do they know the prairie dogs are really out to get them!


TX is unbelievable! Such an embarrassment.... with very tiny pockets of nice places.

 

tapermaker

(244 posts)
70. Read this one on another site
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:22 PM
Sep 2015

what was of greater concern to the officers was the training manual found on the youth. it had many strange looking symbols inside, and had AL -Gebra on the cover.

RoccoRyg

(260 posts)
147. Funny you should mention that...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 07:31 PM
Sep 2015

Algebra actually does come from Muslim history. The Arab mathematician Mohammad ibn-Musa al-Khowarizmi popularized it in the ninth century AD. The original name was al-jabr and it meant "the science of restoration."

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. That kid had to have been terrified, considering the stupid things happening today in our PDs.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:27 PM
Sep 2015

He has enough initiative to try to come up with a better mousetrap and ends up in jail. They just don't want to admit his name had anything to do with it.

That PD doesn't have a bomb expert?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
4. One word: Kafkaesque.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:33 PM
Sep 2015


Kafka's writing has inspired the term "Kafkaesque", used to describe concepts and situations reminiscent of his work, particularly Der Process (The Trial) and "Die Verwandlung". Examples include instances in which bureaucracies overpower people, often in a surreal, nightmarish milieu which evokes feelings of senselessness, disorientation, and helplessness. Characters in a Kafkaesque setting often lack a clear course of action to escape a labyrinthine situation. Kafkaesque elements often appear in existential works, but the term has transcended the literary realm to apply to real-life occurrences and situations that are incomprehensibly complex, bizarre, or illogical


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kafka#Legacy

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
10. The Irving police are too stupid to know that they are stupid
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:39 PM
Sep 2015

Seriously, this is completely insane. The Justice Department needs to investigate the school and the police department there.

I am ashamed of my country.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
130. Don't be ashamed of your country.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:43 PM
Sep 2015

Make republicanism illegal and jail every single one of them.

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
8. Interrogation is a skill the police department has lost.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:38 PM
Sep 2015

They don't bother doing any investigative work on their own. They are just stenographers with a gun. They will take down statements, but don't think to ask relevant questions. Which means that the right people, who know how to give the right answers are free to skirt the law.

Like this:

Young white male, DUI suspect gets stopped by a police.

Police officer: Let me see your driver's license son.

YWM: Hands police officer his application to college.

Police officer: Good school! Just be sure to drive straight home now, son.

- - - - - -

I hear there is a man named Lou in the back office that just watches episodes of Law and Order and is very well-versed on Police Interrogation methods.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
178. A big FBI office is a few miles east, in Dallas. Bomb experts are there. Instead of police
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:41 AM
Sep 2015

doing their job, they put off calling in the FBI long enough to interrogate the kid without his parents being in the room. A picture of the clock could have be sent to the FBI over a computer. It is easy to see the part in the clock that is easily replaced out when your PC goes out.

Takket

(21,578 posts)
12. slam dunk civil rights violation lawsuit for that family
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:41 PM
Sep 2015

only question is, how much money are they going to get?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. Stupid. It could have been easily settled simply by
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:43 PM
Sep 2015

bringing in an expert to look at the clock. No arrest was needed.

This is exactly what is wrong today. Guilty until proven innocent or dead.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
86. I was thinking of a science teacher. I suspect not
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:46 PM
Sep 2015

everyone knows what a bomb looks like. I don't - my specialty is social studies not bomb making. And in case you did not read the rest - I did talk about the racist attitude of the people who immediately called him in to the police.

I haven't seen the clock but there are big clocks and small clocks. I once owned a grandfather clock that set on a shelf that could have held explosives.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
105. Well damn, I can't get the picture to display.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:27 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece Toward the bottom of the page.

It looked absolutely nothing like a bomb. There's nothing in there to go boom. Everything in there are easily identifiable parts. Even in that potato of a picture I can tell what they are, and I'm neither a bomb expert nor an electronics expert.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
144. Thanks!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 07:14 PM
Sep 2015

What's bizarre is how small it is. I kept thinking that was a briefcase, and someone pointed out to me on another forum that it's a pencil case.

bullsnarfle

(254 posts)
177. I thought it was his (science?) teacher
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:37 AM
Sep 2015

that called the cops on him? And if so, what a doofus, time for a new line of work.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
179. He brought it to show his Science teacher. But it was his English teacher who called the cops. nt
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:44 AM
Sep 2015

bullsnarfle

(254 posts)
189. Ah-ha, thanks...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:31 PM
Sep 2015

I heard a good bit of the story on the news this morning, but I was running around trying to get ready for work and missed that part

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
183. Thank you. That was what I was getting at in my first
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:33 AM
Sep 2015

post regarding how really stupid this entire arrest was.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
173. wtf? Where was the expert supposed to materialize from?
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:56 AM
Sep 2015

The police shouldn't have been involved at all. There was nothing to be involved about.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
184. All I said is the this whole arrest was stupid. Why all the
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:39 AM
Sep 2015

shit I am getting? Do you all think it was justified? I would assume that there might actually be someone in the area who was a soldier? Or a clock maker? Or just a smart person? Even another student with brains?

This entire arrest was nothing more than harassment of a Muslim student.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. "A broader explanation"?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:43 PM
Sep 2015

Curious and creative teenager builds a clock, and they need a "broader explanation"?

How did people this stupid ever get put in a position of responsibility beyond changing the air fresheners in urinals?

(and, yeah, I *had* that job as a teenage janitor - I also built stuff just for fun sometimes)

BarbaRosa

(2,684 posts)
101. That's what got me,
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:17 PM
Sep 2015

it's a clock. OK, it's a f@#king homemade digital clock.

I guess to the Irving Police if it's not a gun they have no clue as to what it might be.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
117. Now be nice, cops are hired stupid and stay stupid. The school officials on the other hand...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:00 PM
Sep 2015

Then again shouldn't you have to show some intelligence to be able to carry a gun?

avebury

(10,952 posts)
175. A broader explanation was needed because the cops and
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:08 AM
Sep 2015

school officials were just plain too stupid to understand that a 14 year old boy was a whole lot smarter then them.

Takket

(21,578 posts)
16. twitter account
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:43 PM
Sep 2015

Family set up a twitter account @IStandwithAhmed to post updates. They are going to make life a living hell for that police department, just as the police made life a living hell for their child. good for them. Every time this shit is exposed nationally we get a little closer to meaningful reform. don't know when it will come, but the tidal wave is growing

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
20. Yes, he needs a good attorney.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:48 PM
Sep 2015

Then the taxpayers of Irving will be seeing their tax dollars used in settlement of a lawsuit. It's sad, but that IS the only real recourse here.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
50. Thankfully, his story went viral, so he'll get some damned good attorneys.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:42 PM
Sep 2015

He can sue the school and the cops and get free college out of this.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
18. Idiots. School admins and the cops
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:45 PM
Sep 2015

One of the reasons I ended up leaving LE work is I was being forced into a School Resource Officer job- and those suck when the school administrations suck. You become the dumping ground for every situation they should be handling as the administrators of the school but they pass off to you to avoid responsibility- but then your career and future is tied to how they rate your performance to you department so if you don't just do their crap work the way they want your career is at risk.

The cops responding were idiots, and need to be disciplined. But the bigger idiots were the school administrators who elevated this to be a police matter in the first place. That never should have happened. Teachers are supposed to be educated leaders, but more and more they act like mindless drones incapable of using reason and resolving problems and instead just a calling the police to do their job for them.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
40. Teachers educated leaders - NOT, because that's not how the repugs want them.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:34 PM
Sep 2015

The republicans (school boards, local and state governments, lobbyists, corps) don't want successful public schools. They want to keep strangling the public resources so the money can be spent on for-profit schools.

If this poor kid was a student at a christian/charter school, this wouldn't have happened. BECAUSE he wouldn't have been allowed in at all (no open enrollment for certain types.)

Makes me wonder how many upper-class folks send their children to these knock-off christian/charter schools?

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
62. Please remember....this is Texas
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:03 PM
Sep 2015

I know, I know...we read bat shit crazy stuff like this every day from all around the country; but it seems like 70% is from Texas, another 25% is from some other part of dixieland, and the remaining 5% happens in other parts of the U.S. (Probably involving people who have moved from Texas).

mark67

(196 posts)
182. Agree 100%
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:22 AM
Sep 2015

Blame the administrators, not the cops. It's easy to talk about the "stupidity" of the police but after Columbine etc... they'd be equally criticized if they didn't take calls from school administrators seriously...even the stupid ones. Besides, this is Texas.

Also I saw this kid on Up With Chris Hayes and he's not very articulate, maybe a slightly autistic genius. I think when the cops asked him what it was, he probably just kept saying it's a clock instead of saying "I built it from this...got the idea from this...showed it to my science teacher, etc..."

The interview with Chris Hayes is actually frustrating because the kid seems to lack the gift of conversation-again, probably a slightly autistic genius. The school administrators should have protected him.

Device starts beeping loudly in English class, What is it? It's a clock. But what is it? It's a clock. Ad naseum.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
123. That's about the only thing these idiots understand is $$$
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:09 PM
Sep 2015

Appeals to common sense, decency and so on don't often work. The only thing they understand is $$$.

Takket

(21,578 posts)
48. If the kid was white
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:42 PM
Sep 2015

An ak-47 would have gotten him an A+ in civics class for demonstrating a constitutional right.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
60. Probably...although, nowadays cops shoot first and ask questions later even with
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:00 PM
Sep 2015

some white folks.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
145. Steve Wozniak built a fake bomb in high school, got caught and spent a night in Juvie.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 07:14 PM
Sep 2015

These days, he would be in jail for years. While in jail for the one night, he taught the other prisoners to commit criminal assault.

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-wozniak-in-jail-fake-bomb-2011-10

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
168. I brought a paper mache ball onto the school bus. It was painted black, had a fuse, and "BOMB" on it
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 04:09 AM
Sep 2015

I had a fake beard, sun glasses, a beret, and black anarchist clothes on. I got on the bus and yelled that I had a bomb and I was hijacking the school bus. I walked down the aisle yelling, "This is a bomb. I'll blow this bus up."

All that happened is people sighed, rolled their eyes, or looked away and tried to ignore me. No cops, no jail.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
33. Are all Texas Law Enforcement Officers and Teachers morons? It sure seem like it. Can we pay them to
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:15 PM
Sep 2015

leave secede? I'd chip in a few bucks and I don't have a lot of extra cash.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
34. Just goes to show some entire PDs are full of stupid cops with nothing to do.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

No crimes around town?

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
35. Back in the bad old days, if you wouldn't confess you were a heretic...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:19 PM
Sep 2015

... then the Inquisition would just torture you until you did confess. Er, use enhanced interrogation methods, I mean, one of which was virtually identical to waterboarding. If you persisted in refusing to confess, they would eventually, with great reluctance, hand you over to the civil authorities (with a plea for mercy) to be burned alive. If you were good and confessed, then they'd strangle you first so you wouldn't suffer.

It is all about authority and power, and nothing else. The truth is incidental.

-- Mal

MANative

(4,112 posts)
106. When my husband applied to the police academy many years ago,
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:27 PM
Sep 2015

And they saw that he had both an associate's and a bachelor's degree, the captain called him and strongly discouraged him from continuing his application. Said he'd be "bored stiff" in an intellectually unchallenging job. Hubby continued, joined the force, spent twelve years there. Had the lowest percentage of arrests on the force, but also the least complaints and the highest number of resolutions because he actually used his brain and education to be a good cop.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
118. that's what we need.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:00 PM
Sep 2015

and for all the good cops to quit looking the other way when their co-workers commit bad acts.

i was recalling the case where a man was turned down because his IQ was too high - he sued and lost.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
44. I love the fact that President Obama and Sec. Clinton both reached out to this young man
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:36 PM
Sep 2015

Those were great tweets

navarth

(5,927 posts)
45. Did they think it was an exploding CIRCUIT BOARD???
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:36 PM
Sep 2015

How anybody could think a circuit board could be a clock is beyond me. If he had carried it around connected to dynamite, maybe. But he DIDN'T.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
46. I love the President’s tweet
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:37 PM
Sep 2015

When it comes to kids, no one beats this President. He’s so freakin’ awesome.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
47. Ahmed's inspiration
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:40 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe he was inspired by his most intelligent ex-Governor, Rick Perry, who recently informed us that "a broken clock is right once a day." Ahmed is making a good case for his being the smartest person in Texas.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
49. I saw in the DMN about this.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:42 PM
Sep 2015
He showed it to his engineering teacher first thing Monday morning and didn’t get quite the reaction he’d hoped for.

“He was like, ‘That’s really nice,’” Ahmed said. “‘I would advise you not to show any other teachers.’”

He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.

“She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

“I told her, ‘It doesn’t look like a bomb to me.’”

The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldn’t get it back.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his name — one of the most common in the Muslim religion. But the police kept him busy with questions.

The bell rang at least twice, he said, while the officers searched his belongings and questioned his intentions. The principal threatened to expel him if he didn’t make a written statement, he said.

“They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.

“I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”

“He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-family-adjusting-to-ahmed-mohamed-s-sudden-fame-as-police-announce-no-charges-for-clock-deemed-hoax-bomb.ece


I hope everyone involved in it this gets sued for profiling this kid. This isn't a movie, this is real life and people need to wake up and remember how to tell the difference.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
66. A bright child who did nothing wrong learned an ugly lesson in racism
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:13 PM
Sep 2015

This isn't how it should be in this country, but what should be and what is are worlds apart.

Ahmed's grandmother said, "I thank God there's nothing people can say but (that) we are good people." Just let that sink in for a minute. Consider how no one in this family did anything wrong. Think about living a life where you're always walking on eggshells because you know you could be falsely accused of something at anytime for who you are, and are held to a higher bar than people who aren't a minority.

This is what being a minority in America is like. The prejudices may vary depending on what minority group a person comes from, but the premise is the same.

This is what we need to change, not just for Ahmed, but for every person in this country who are forced live a life where racism and/or bigotry like this is a daily reality.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
120. Wow! 14-years-old carted off in handcuffs.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:02 PM
Sep 2015

I'd like to know if they contacted his parents during any of this?

BumRushDaShow

(129,118 posts)
137. Juvenile POC are regularly handcuffed and carted off
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:57 PM
Sep 2015
7 year old hispanic boy

6 year old black girl

Many LOE routinely consider POC as literal animals. There is no humanization of POC that has been taught or indoctrinated in them.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
162. "It looks like a movie bomb to me"
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:08 PM
Sep 2015

It sounds like the line from a bad 1980s spoof film but no it came from a law enforcement officer. I mean there is stupid and then there is stupid.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
51. Jeebus Effin' Christ!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:42 PM
Sep 2015

I think I'm getting tourette's right now... How #@$%()*@&)(#% stupid to these people get?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
53. Most of the time a clock is just a clock, and quite often, a fuckwit with a badge is just a fuckwit
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:50 PM
Sep 2015

with a badge.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
54. God I love our president
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:52 PM
Sep 2015

So great that he invited this kid to the Whitehouse.

This man keeps making me proud to have supported him.

Something in our policing system is so terribly broken. They seem to operate on pure fear these days.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
55. It's time to screen ALL Texans before they leave their beloved state...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:52 PM
Sep 2015

I'm beginning to believe many Texans are the real terrorists in this country. Weren't the 9/11 hijackers from Texas? Not sure on that one, but it seems to ring a bell.

I'm reading more damned stories of atrocities and blatant ignorance and bigotry coming from that flat, ugly, oil-smelling wasteland of a state every day.

I say it's time we restrict travel FROM Texas. Those idiots I'm reading about are spreading their stupidity across the country, and it's making us all less safe.

Think about it; Tom delay, Louie gohmert, Karl rove, Rick Perry, Ted Cruz...not to mention the police state of racist and thug walking badges all over the ghastly place.

This is part parody and part reality.

KG

(28,751 posts)
57. If cops don't want people to think theyre stupid and incompetent, they should try to stop being
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:58 PM
Sep 2015

stupid and incompetent

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
58. Dear Officers Stupid. I hope our kids don't have reason to regret your ignorance.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:59 PM
Sep 2015

But I wouldn't be at all surprised.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
61. In a civilized country this boy would have gotten a high-five and support to continue innovating.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sep 2015

In "the greatest democracy the world has ever seen", he gets to have the "honor" of being detained, interrogated and fingerprinted for his audacity. This is your racist police state hard at work, folks. Same as it ever was.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
68. What makes this whole story triply absurd is that the family is SUFI.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:21 PM
Sep 2015

Violence and Sufism go together like oil and water.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
72. Nice in retrospect, but if he'd tried to bring that thing in the White House...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:26 PM
Sep 2015

...before this controversy, he'd likely have been tackled, shackled, and sent to Gitmo.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
115. Anyone would have been tackled... that being the relevant difference.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:15 PM
Sep 2015

Anyone would have been tackled rather than simply brown people... that being the relevant difference.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
76. Wow.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:30 PM
Sep 2015

Here's a broader explanation:

I've built a clock. Clocks help people tell time. Since I need to tell time, this clock will help me. Plus, the clock LOOKS cool, and I'm proud of it because I built it.

Of course, these school people and police seem to be morons. Do you think anyone ever taught them to tell time from an analog clock? OK, when the BIG HAND is on the 12 and the LITTLE HAND is on the 1 then it is one o'clock!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
77. He should have said
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

it's really an interdimensional transportation device that has obviously sent me the the Dimension of Stupid, but I doubt that would have gone over very well.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
78. Ahmed's mistake
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:33 PM
Sep 2015

He's only 14, so he could not possibly know that the average cop cannot recognize the difference between a clock and a bomb. You know the expression "...doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground." That pretty much sums it up.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
79. Stupid flipp'n Militia Police...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:33 PM
Sep 2015

Are SOOOO desperate for some terrorist activity...it's like all they live for.

Disgraceful treatment of this young man...the teachers are just as stupid.

There should be a long line of morons apologizing.

Oh...and built it for an engineering class! Duh!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
88. This reminds me of the model who had no idea what the word "profile" means ("America's Next
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

Top Model&quot .

PERHAPS THIS COP REALLY DID NOT KNOW---I'M SERIOUS---WHAT "CLOCK" MEANT IN TERMS OF WHAT HE WAS LOOKING AT.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
90. This young man's mastery of (American) English far exceeds the Police.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:52 PM
Sep 2015

What language do they speak in Texas?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
100. We speak a combination of under-educated red-neck and sub-literate half-wit.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:10 PM
Sep 2015

We speak a combination of under-educated red-neck and sub-literate half-wit. We do like to over use the semi-colon, though...

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
109. This reminds me of an old insult I heard about the age of the young man 50 years ago that fits.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:38 PM
Sep 2015

Every day when that (in this case arresting police) gets up in the morning looks in the mirror, they shave their ass.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
91. In today's crazy climate of ineptitude, my blond brother would have been behind
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:53 PM
Sep 2015

bars for the electrical electronic stuff he built in 60's. Not to mention the chemical stuff he used to do with his chem sets. My folks encouraged it all.

My sympathies to this young man. He already can run circles around the local keystone cops.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
102. I couldn't tell this from the OP, but
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015
It was the school that called the police and reported this. He tried to show his clock to his teachers and they freaked out.

What the hell is happening to this country? CNN has a short clip that shows the clock, and it's pretty confusing to someone who doesn't know electronics, but why would a kid come to school to show his teachers a bomb? He would just bring it and blow it up somewhere, not try to draw attention to it first.

This is so sad, it makes me want to cry. What has this country become. I hope Obama is sending his family tickets to fly to the Whitehouse. They should be honored for putting up with this shit so nicely.

Here is the link that shows the clock in the short clip
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/

"They arrested me and they told me that I committed the crime of a hoax bomb, a fake bomb," the freshman later explained to WFAA after authorities released him.


The President would like the teen to join him and other scientists next month for the White House's annual Astronomy Night, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Wednesday.
GOOD!

underpants

(182,830 posts)
103. And the former Gov. of Texas (Perry) said a broken clock was right ONCE a day
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015

So, then there's that

underpants

(182,830 posts)
104. What is it? It's a clock. WHAT IS it! It's a clock. WHAT IS IT!!! It's a clock
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:24 PM
Sep 2015

Okay that's enough. Arrest him.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
124. Fuck it, dude. Time for Plan B.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:12 PM
Sep 2015

You might want to take a good look outside your window, and see this is what happens when you FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS!

procon

(15,805 posts)
107. The school turned him in!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

"It was an English teacher who got spooked and reported Ahmed to the principal, the police said."

...
He recalled showing one teacher the clock and her telling him that she thought it was "nice" but he shouldn't show other instructors, according to the paper. The teen put the clock in his bookbag but an alarm beeped in the middle of 6th period and Ahmed showed the teacher what he had, the newspaper reported.

"She was like, it looks like a bomb," he said.

"I told her, 'It doesn't look like a bomb to me.'"


http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/



valerief

(53,235 posts)
110. Why wouldn't they believe the science teacher the kid brought it in to?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:10 PM
Sep 2015

They didn't bother asking the teacher? How racistly convenient.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
119. Much worse than that, the teacher turned him in.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:02 PM
Sep 2015

The teacher instantly went Jade Helm 15 on the student.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
142. Just to clarify, it was his English teacher that turned him in
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 06:57 PM
Sep 2015

Not his engineering or science teacher.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
112. Would cops have accepted ...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:13 PM
Sep 2015

It's a clock. It marks the passage of time. It breaks the day into seconds, minutes, hours ... you iffin a-holes !

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
113. i think we have to finally accept the fact that a large fraction of American police . . .
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:14 PM
Sep 2015

. . . are morons. Think of that. Morons are protecting us!

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
114. If he were a white evangelical Christian ...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 04:15 PM
Sep 2015

Huckabee would magically appear and hand him a blue ribbon award for his ingenuity.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
126. There is only one level.....institutionalized bigotry and racism...all fuelled by a negligent media.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:26 PM
Sep 2015

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
155. No, there's another level: scientific ignorance.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:00 PM
Sep 2015

The science teacher thought it was cool. The English teacher thought it was a bomb.

I've heard education students say that they shouldn't have to learn algebra or science in order to teach music or English. I think this story shows why that might not be a good idea.

ut oh

(895 posts)
122. So basically
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:07 PM
Sep 2015

The police are so stupid they don't know what a clock is???

And to think a teacher reported it.... a teacher stupid enough to not understand what a clock is should not be teaching.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
132. You know what N.W.A. says?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:46 PM
Sep 2015

It's something regarding the police....


Oh, and the same to the Irving person(s) who had their knee JERK reaction seeing a Muslim kid with an electronic device.

They probably would have thought the same thing if he had an opened up cell phone.


Irving Idiot: "Hey, Ahmed! Whatcha doin' with that cell phone?"

Ahmed: "Calling my father."

Irving Idiot: "Uh huh, right. I thinks you gonna set off a bommm! Ware doze cops at?"

niyad

(113,356 posts)
133. I tried making sense of what the report said, have concluded that there is not enough alcohol to
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:47 PM
Sep 2015

make me that stupid.

that poor kid--knowing the police these days, he is lucky to be alive.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
140. If this cop thinks this kid is a "terrorist"...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 06:10 PM
Sep 2015

... and uses BULLSHIT reasons and actions to try and rationalize his belief in that, then the kid has just as much reason if not more that the cop was also a criminal like so many other cops have been found to have been who have brutalized people of color and killed them as murderers do too.

Why didn't the cop at least call someone like a bomb squad that could look at it before taking the kid in to custody, and if the kid's device is "suspicious", why shouldn't any other devices at the fair also have been checked to make sure that we don't have other terrorists in that fair too, whether they are white or some other ethnicity. We certainly have had more white terrorists in our country committing crimes than Muslims in terms of numbers over the last decade. If they are worried about such a thing, perhaps in advance they should have arranged to have such an expert on hand to inspect all of the different exhibits in a non-partisan fashion to ensure everyone's safety. Might have been overreactive and overprotective, but arguably a much better and judicious way of doing it if you are worried about the possibilities of such problems happening.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
141. Honesty and innocence
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 06:49 PM
Sep 2015

Always cause the police to overreact, especially in the slave states, and more so when police feel threatened by a 15 year old nerd with darker skin and a Muslim name. They was skeered. Now they'll make a disability claim for PTSD.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
157. Racism and. Ethnic and religious prejudice plus stupidity.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:21 PM
Sep 2015

if the officers couldn't make a clock, the officers thought, how could this kid?

How narrow-minded and mean can you get?

Homeland security concerns run amok.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
158. to the kid who was arrested for building a clock or his family
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:35 PM
Sep 2015

Wait.

He built his family too?


He's a GENIUS!

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
164. So a jealous teacher brought this to the
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:58 PM
Sep 2015

attention of the school principal. The school principal thought it would be better to back a stupid teacher-god knows public school is full of them-and call the po po. The po po decided that following the law wasn't needed here, instead they would interrogate a child under the age of 18 without their parent, guardian or advocate. Then also decided that when he asked for his parent that they would illegally deny him his right to have his parent present. The school decided they too would break every public school rule in place and allow all of this to happen.

I'm not sure why we even have laws, rules or regulations. People with the smallest amount of authority continually break all the rules they are suppose to follow.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
167. A good many teachers do not like it when they are outsmarted by their students
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 02:09 AM
Sep 2015

When those students are children, even more so.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
166. This kid is lucky to be alive
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:51 AM
Sep 2015

Guilty of not being white.

That's more than enough reason to get shot or beaten to death.

I wish it was unbelievable, but obviously it isn't.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
169. Police are liars, they are told everyone lies.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 04:20 AM
Sep 2015

Their investigative state is to lie to you, and if you tell the truth, they're so incredulous, they invent up a lie.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
170. Isn't it nice to know that these people "serve and protect"...................
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:12 AM
Sep 2015

Hey, Ahmed, I'd like to borrow your clock for our many power outages! And let's collaborate on building the next best slot car track (I loved that at your age - and it was always the really smart kids that had the best cars!)

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
176. Here is information and photos of what he built
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:11 AM
Sep 2015

Posted it in hidden OP thread so thought would put it here



The case is a Vaultz Locking Pencil Box, 8.25 x 5.5 x 2.5 Inches,


About the size of a kid's lunch box.

http://www.amazon.com/Vaultz-Locking-Pencil-Inches-VZ01479/dp/B001BXZ28K


Here is what he actually built



Here is an article about it

http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
185. Sure, it looks like a bomb.....
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:44 AM
Sep 2015

....if you discount the fact that there's nothing in there to, you know, explode.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
193. If these folks ever poked their head inside a PC case
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:36 PM
Sep 2015

They would likely think it contained parts from the guts of a UFO.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
187. I couldn't imagine what they would do
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:13 PM
Sep 2015

if they saw some to the electronics gadgets that my best friend and I made when we were kids in Brooklyn.
We used to scavenge the old TVs that people left on the sidewalk for garbage pickup back in the 60s. They were all tubes. We really stripped some of them down to barely anything and would build all sorts of weird stuff with them. We had no money, but were curious, and had schematics. We made musical things, light up things, radio things. With all the tubes strewn out on a raw circuit, powered by 110 VAC most of the time, I'm sure that they would think that they would be some sort of destructive thing today.

I think the kid should be praised for his curiosity and ability to build. We need to get him to a Maker meeting. Anyone know of one in his area? He would love it, and they would love him.

As far as the Dallass police are concerned. They are nuts, plain and simple.

 

Dr Rise

(99 posts)
190. Another sad thing about it is the probability
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 03:29 PM
Sep 2015

the kid was not allowed to demonstrate the device was, in fact, a clock because
they thought he was also a kid suicide bomber. #Mindset

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