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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:33 PM May 2012

Federal Spending At Slowest Pace Since Eisenhower

MarketWatch: “Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending

… Even Democrats seem to think it’s true. But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.”

Roll Call: “A bill that would extend the current student loan rate is just the latest legislation stuck in partisan limbo despite support from both parties for the overall idea. With as few as three legislative workdays left before its recess, the Senate has stalled on measures that have bipartisan support in theory but have hit roadblocks in practice, from the student loan rate bill to a small-business tax credit.”

Religion News Service: ”Dozens of Catholic universities, dioceses and other institutions filed lawsuits in courts around the country on Monday in a coordinated effort, spearheaded by the U.S. hierarchy and Catholic conservatives, to overturn the Obama administration’s contraception mandate plan. The 43 plaintiffs, which include 13 dioceses and the University of Notre Dame, say the mandate forces religious employers to provide contraceptive and sterilization services to employees that violate their beliefs.”

http://www.congress.org/news/federal-spending-at-slowest-pace-since-eisenhower/

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Federal Spending At Slowest Pace Since Eisenhower (Original Post) MindMover May 2012 OP
Your title is higly misleading ag_dude May 2012 #1
GDP is a highly misleading number..... MindMover May 2012 #2
You realize I didn't use it as a barometer of growth right? ag_dude May 2012 #3
uh. right. Stinky The Clown May 2012 #4
???? ag_dude May 2012 #5
Inflation has absolutely nothing to do with the *rate* of growth . . . . Stinky The Clown May 2012 #6
His point? Yes. His title? No. ag_dude May 2012 #7
Add "discretionary" to the headline and it starts to be correct cthulu2016 May 2012 #8

ag_dude

(562 posts)
1. Your title is higly misleading
Tue May 22, 2012, 06:10 PM
May 2012

Federal spending as a percentage of GDP (the only legitimate measure of federal spending) is actually the highest it's been since WWII and has been since 2009.

During Eisnenhower it topped out around 30%. We're currently running near 40%.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
3. You realize I didn't use it as a barometer of growth right?
Wed May 23, 2012, 08:14 PM
May 2012

That's the argument that article you cited makes.

I, like just about every economist in existence, used it in reference to the size of the federal budget in relation to the overall economy.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
5. ????
Thu May 24, 2012, 09:39 AM
May 2012

Take it out of the equation as account for inflation for federal spending and our current budget absolutely dwarfs anything even thought to be possible during the Eisenhower administration.

My point was that the original poster's title was higly misleading.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
6. Inflation has absolutely nothing to do with the *rate* of growth . . . .
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:51 PM
May 2012

. . . . which was the essential point mentioned in the OP.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
8. Add "discretionary" to the headline and it starts to be correct
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:55 PM
May 2012

Federal spending is up. True.

Obama has done very little to increase spending. Also true.

Spending is up primarily due to medicare and unemployment insurance and other direct effects of high unemployment.

If a person who gets fired gets ueunemployment insurance then it is the company doing the firing that really determines how much we will spend. Same for someone losing their health insurance and going on medicare.

Obama has not high-spending policies. It's just that the economy sucks.

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