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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:24 PM Sep 2015

Horrifying moment a man is savaged by two pitbulls and left in a pool of blood on a New York street

Shocking footage has emerged of two pitbulls savaging a man on the streets of the Bronx in New York City as bystanders bravely attempt to pull them away.

Filmed from an apartment above the road, the middle aged man is left lying in a pool of his own blood after the crazed dogs drag him across the road in the prolonged mauling.

The entire incident was recorded by a woman at the apartment overlooking the street, who is also heard speaking to emergency services on the phone.



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Horrifying moment a man is savaged by two pitbulls and left in a pool of blood on a New York street (Original Post) XemaSab Sep 2015 OP
Awful shenmue Sep 2015 #1
Oh my god! I wish I didn't watch that. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #2
Oh, those cute and cuddley pits. they'd never hurt a fly... KG Sep 2015 #3
Any dog will attack when trained to do so. enlightenment Sep 2015 #4
I know HassleCat Sep 2015 #14
Certain kind of people gwheezie Sep 2015 #21
Not you HassleCat Sep 2015 #23
I'm horrified when dogs attack people gwheezie Sep 2015 #24
Dobies used to be the best attack/protection dogs. Then Rotts. German Shepherds. etc uppityperson Sep 2015 #26
A dog doesn't have to be trained to do what it has been bred for Major Nikon Sep 2015 #39
Any dog will attack when trained to do so and instructed to do so by the owner uppityperson Sep 2015 #11
She should be charged the same as if she had shot or stabbed him. nt Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #19
I agree and it looks like she's been charged with assault. uppityperson Sep 2015 #29
Cynthia Oliver should be in prison for the rest of her life. PufPuf23 Sep 2015 #32
That was a deliberate attack by the dogs' owner. cpwm17 Sep 2015 #5
Ah, OP says deliberate attack by owner. wtf uppityperson Sep 2015 #6
It's in the link XemaSab put below the video cpwm17 Sep 2015 #9
That's a California incident, not the Bronx one in the OP. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2015 #17
No, it is the Bronx one. Here is another link. However, cpwm does link to a CA one. uppityperson Sep 2015 #27
I was talking about the story in post #5 BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2015 #38
It doesn't say the dogs' owner ordered them to attack... GummyBearz Sep 2015 #8
look up at post #9, has the link and quote. uppityperson Sep 2015 #12
Oliver has been charged with assault and reckless endangerment Kotya Sep 2015 #15
Thanks GummyBearz Sep 2015 #20
If all those people hadn't come to his aid he would have likely died. alphafemale Sep 2015 #7
Civil and criminal penalties HassleCat Sep 2015 #10
Owner was there, sicced the dog on him. uppityperson Sep 2015 #13
Dragged across the street by 2 dogs then he got up and walked away LiberalElite Sep 2015 #16
Yes, he'd have likely died if they hadn't all helped. alphafemale Sep 2015 #18
Psychological as well as physical. Adsos Letter Sep 2015 #22
Yup. The video shows one man being attacked by the dogs LiberalElite Sep 2015 #31
Interesting that the digs didb't go after anyone else untik Mr. Ortiz took off his tblue37 Sep 2015 #30
Have those dogs been put down yet? If not, why not? alcibiades_mystery Sep 2015 #25
Owner has been charged since it was a deliberate attack uppityperson Sep 2015 #28
I don't trust Pitbulls greytdemocrat Sep 2015 #33
I don't trust people who train their dogs to attack then set them on people. uppityperson Sep 2015 #34
+100000 etherealtruth Sep 2015 #40
Interesting Story Fluothane Sep 2015 #35
These dogs were set upon the man by their owner. Bad owner, bad nurture. uppityperson Sep 2015 #36
Having an attack trained dog is no different leftyladyfrommo Sep 2015 #37
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
14. I know
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:48 PM
Sep 2015

The problem is, pit bulls are the best fighting dogs. This attracts a certain type of person, the type of person willing to inflict serious injury on others, like Republicans, but without the sophisticated military hardware. Many pit bull owners train and socialize their dogs to attack people. It's like the whole gun control thing. The owners are at fault, but the dogs enable their bad tendencies.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
21. Certain kind of people
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:31 PM
Sep 2015

That must be me. I've had 3 pitbulls, I don't look for a breed, dogs find me. I've had far more hound dogs in my life. I'm 65 years old, vegan and female. The pit I have now for the past 10 years is a rescue. I have a hound and a shepherd mix. The shepherd is the more aggressive. The pit can be taken anywhere.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
23. Not you
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:40 PM
Sep 2015

You're socializing your dog correctly. So is my sister in law. So is my neighbor. They both ownp it bulls, and both dogs are sweethearts, because they belong to nice people, not mean people. That bumper sticker should read, "Mean people suck. And so do their dogs."

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
24. I'm horrified when dogs attack people
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:48 PM
Sep 2015

If I had a dog that was dangerous and I made an effort to rehab it and failed, I would put it down in the kindest way. Training dogs to attack people is so unfair to the dog.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
26. Dobies used to be the best attack/protection dogs. Then Rotts. German Shepherds. etc
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 04:16 PM
Sep 2015

The owners are at fault with no "but" added.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
39. A dog doesn't have to be trained to do what it has been bred for
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:34 AM
Sep 2015

My border collie will herd livestock and small children despite never being trained to do so.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
11. Any dog will attack when trained to do so and instructed to do so by the owner
Reply to KG (Reply #3)
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pit-bulls-attack-man-bronx-graphic-video-shows-article-1.2358056

A Bronx woman ordered her two pit bulls to viciously attack a 62-year-old man Friday morning as neighbors frantically tried to intervene and blood streaked the street, according to police and graphic video.

Cynthia Oliver, 55, began arguing with the unnamed victim outside her building at 2414 Belmont Ave, police said. She soon let the pets off the leash and ordered them to attack, they said.
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
5. That was a deliberate attack by the dogs' owner.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:35 PM
Sep 2015

I saw this report a few day ago:

California man killed, woman badly hurt in pit bull attack

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/09/us-usa-pitbull-attack-idUSKCN0R92M120150909

A 65-year-old man was killed and a woman seriously hurt when they were attacked by two pit bulls in Southern California, police and local media said on Wednesday.

Riverside County sheriff's deputies responding on Tuesday morning to reports of a dog attack in North Shore, a community on the shores of the Salton Sea about 100 miles east of San Diego, found a man dead in the front yard of a home there, the sheriff's department said in a written statement.

As deputies investigated they heard a woman cry for help and found her being attacked by two dogs, according to the statement.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
6. Ah, OP says deliberate attack by owner. wtf
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:39 PM
Sep 2015
According to police, the dogs owner, Cynthia Oliver, 55, was arguing with the unnamed victim outside her apartment block at 2414 Belmont Ave.
It was then that she let the dogs off their leash.
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
9. It's in the link XemaSab put below the video
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015

and here: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pit-bulls-attack-man-bronx-graphic-video-shows-article-1.2358056

A Bronx woman ordered her two pit bulls to viciously attack a 62-year-old man Friday morning as neighbors frantically tried to intervene and blood streaked the street, according to police and graphic video.

Cynthia Oliver, 55, began arguing with the unnamed victim outside her building at 2414 Belmont Ave, police said. She soon let the pets off the leash and ordered them to attack, they said.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
38. I was talking about the story in post #5
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:29 AM
Sep 2015

5. That was a deliberate attack by the dogs' owner.
I saw this report a few day ago:

California man killed, woman badly hurt in pit bull attack

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/09/us-usa-pitbull-attack-idUSKCN0R92M120150909

A 65-year-old man was killed and a woman seriously hurt when they were attacked by two pit bulls in Southern California, police and local media said on Wednesday.

Riverside County sheriff's deputies responding on Tuesday morning to reports of a dog attack in North Shore, a community on the shores of the Salton Sea about 100 miles east of San Diego, found a man dead in the front yard of a home there, the sheriff's department said in a written statement.

As deputies investigated they heard a woman cry for help and found her being attacked by two dogs, according to the statement.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
8. It doesn't say the dogs' owner ordered them to attack...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:42 PM
Sep 2015

How did you get that? I may have missed it, just want to be sure.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
10. Civil and criminal penalties
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015

They have good images of the dogs and some of the people standing around, one of whom may be the owner. It should be relatively easy to track down the owner and haul him into court. Well, it would be easy, if the cops weren't so busy trying to cause trouble for the mayor, but that's anther story. I hope the owner has lots of money, so the victim gets a big payout.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
16. Dragged across the street by 2 dogs then he got up and walked away
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:58 PM
Sep 2015
- but that's probably entirely due to intervention by several people, including the guy with the hose.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
18. Yes, he'd have likely died if they hadn't all helped.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:28 PM
Sep 2015

From the article at least one man was injured himself.

The victim will likely have to deal with these injuries for the rest of his life.

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
30. Interesting that the digs didb't go after anyone else untik Mr. Ortiz took off his
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 04:40 PM
Sep 2015

belt in a desperate attempt to drive one dog away from Mr. Bove. Then that dog went after Mr. Ortiz pretty relentlessly, and then the dogs seem to have changed their focus to attacking anyone that tried to intervene.

I am amazed at the bravery of those many neighbors who put their own bodies between the dogs and Mr. Bove, especially the man at the beginning who did so alone for a while. They all deserve to be publicly honored.

I was, however, appalled by the apparent foolishness of the people who seemed tohank around as "lookie-loos," as though this were a performance put on for their entertainments. One man seems to have had a child with him--probably a daughter. He should have gotten the child to safety as soon as he saw what was going on.

And then there were those who nonchalantly sauntered by, as though it was a TV show rather than real life, so they didn't need to worry about being attacked by the agitated dogs. At the end one such saunterer looks back over his shoulder and sees something that causes him to reconsider his noncalant attitude and glacial pace.

greytdemocrat

(3,299 posts)
33. I don't trust Pitbulls
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 05:28 PM
Sep 2015

Never have, never will. I've had all kinds
of poochs over the decades but I will never
get a pit.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
34. I don't trust people who train their dogs to attack then set them on people.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 06:14 PM
Sep 2015

The owner should be in prison.

 

Fluothane

(32 posts)
35. Interesting Story
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 07:14 PM
Sep 2015

What a coincidence to come across this post. In Jacksonville, FL we received a man just last week who was mauled by four pit bulls. Apparently people tried to stop the attack, however the dogs did not stop chewing until he became unresponsive. Dude had both of his ears torn off and exsanguinated in the street. He has required multiple trips to the OR for continuing care. It does not appear nurture overcomes nature in this breed.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/police-search-for-owner-of-dogs-who-attacked-man/35156024

http://www.news4jax.com/news/dog-owner-speaks-out-on-attack/35228424

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
36. These dogs were set upon the man by their owner. Bad owner, bad nurture.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 07:58 PM
Sep 2015

Training your dogs to attack and directing them to should lead to long prison sentence. In this case it was nurture, not nature.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
37. Having an attack trained dog is no different
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:06 AM
Sep 2015

Than having a loaded gun. You set dogs on someone and it's attempted manslaughter.

We had a case here in KC where people had a boxer cross that had bitten someone when they lived in Lee's Summit, Mo. They moved to KC. A friend was visiting with her toddler. One of the kids let the dog in the house and it attacked the baby. Baby lived.

But those people were arrested for a whole slew of felony charges and were being held on about $50,000 bond. They are looking at some really serious jail time.

Harboring a dangerous animal is a really serious matter. And it's not just pits. There are other breeds that are just as dangerous. Cane Corso are like pits on steroids and they are one of the breeds growing fastest in popularity.

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