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think

(11,641 posts)
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:49 AM Sep 2015

Trippi: As Donald Trump and Sanders rise, two major parties fall

Trippi: As Donald Trump and Sanders rise, two major parties fall

Saturday, September 12, 2015 - By: Joe Trippi

Does the 2016 presidential campaign seem chaotic? For good or ill, that’s because it is. The rise of Donald Trump on the right and Bernie Sanders on the left is proof that the country’s two major political parties have lost their grip on the nominating process. They can still provide two guaranteed spots on the ballot, for a self-identified “Republican” and a self-identified “Democrat.” But that’s pretty much all.

It wasn’t too long ago that party bosses picked candidates at the national conventions, in proverbial smoke-filled backrooms. The two parties also controlled everything crucial for winning the presidency: The money needed to fund a campaign, and the organization needed to build support.

Primaries and caucuses of course killed the conventions; for at least 35 years they’ve been purely ceremonial. The 1976 GOP convention fight in which Ronald Reagan challenged President Ford for the nomination was the last time there was any suspense in the outcome for Republicans. Nothing dramatic has happened at a Democratic National Convention since 1980, when Sen. Edward M. Kennedy sought a change in party rules to open a challenge on the floor to President Carter.

Lately, technological change has disrupted fundraising and networking as surely as the primary system disrupted the conventions.

In the 2004 cycle, Howard Dean stunned the Democratic Party by using the still fairly primitive Internet to demolish the party record for fundraising and communicate with supporters. (I was Dean’s campaign manager.)...

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http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/opinion/op_ed/2015/09/trippi_as_donald_trump_and_sanders_rise_two_major_parties_fall


Joe Trippi is a Democratic strategist and media consultant who ran Howard Dean’s campaign for president and was a media adviser to California Gov. Jerry Brown in 2010. This first appeared in the Los Angeles Times.
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gordianot

(15,238 posts)
1. Makes me wonder is this the end of money?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:03 AM
Sep 2015

Sanders has his voice of sincerity Trump has a mouth of uncontrolled outrage. Money is not helping those who are counting on deep pockets.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
3. Others have deeper pockets Trump and Sanders get more for the buck.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:43 AM
Sep 2015

They play to very different passions.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. This is a result of Citizens United, and the internet.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 07:45 AM
Sep 2015

Now running for office is a business plan. "You have to market yourself!"

 

Phantomaz

(32 posts)
5. If the parties "fell", why don't Bernie and Trump run as independents
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 07:56 AM
Sep 2015

Oh that's right. Because they would lose badly.

By the way, if Biden or Trump don't get the nomination, will the author update the piece?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. The parties are terrified of the wild cards, Republicans of Trump and Dems of Sanders
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:10 PM
Sep 2015

They had an extremely nice thing going pretending to battle all the time over minutia, now they are getting Trumped and Berned and they don't like it one bit.

I expect more umm.. direct measures will eventually be undertaken if the wrong candidates continue to climb in the polls.

 

Phantomaz

(32 posts)
10. You didn't answer my question
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 06:06 PM
Sep 2015

If the parties have fallen, would Bernie and Trump run as independent?
You can't prove the parties have fallen if Bernie and Trump are running as candidates of the "fallen" parties.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
11. "...Oh that's right. Because they would lose badly...."
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 06:13 PM
Sep 2015

You appeared to answer your own question with that sentence.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
6. One thing Trippi leaves out
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:31 PM
Sep 2015

In mid 2003, Howard Dean was on the rise, and he was on the phone to Jim Halperin in Dallas. Jim told Howard he really ought to use the internet for fundraising, as it was an untapped source of lots of potential contributions. Howard said (according to Jim), "Yeah, I really need to look into that." Trippi may have been Howard's campaign manager, but it was Jim's suggestion that launched Howard's meteoric rise in online fundraising, and with it, his campaign. The campaign fizzled for various reasons, one of which, as Howard will tell anyone willing to listen, is that "we didn't know what the hell we were doing."

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. Must be an Official Talking Point
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:38 PM
Sep 2015

The Moonie David Brooks and the nervous E. J. Dionne talked up what Trippi was saying on NPR Friday.

The reality is this "down " time will allow the waves of reform to wash over the entrenched interests, which are the least progressive and most aggressive long running cough financing politics.

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