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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:02 AM Sep 2015

Robert Parry: How Neocons Destabilized Europe

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/32304-how-neocons-destabilized-europe

Instead of the promised wonders of “democracy promotion” and “human rights,” what these “anti-realists” have accomplished is to spread death, destruction and destabilization across the Middle East and parts of Africa and now into Ukraine and the heart of Europe. Yet, since these neocon forces still control the Official Narrative, their explanations get top billing – such as that there hasn’t been enough “regime change.”

For instance, The Washington Post’s neocon editorial page editor Fred Hiatt on Monday blamed “realists” for the cascading catastrophes. Hiatt castigated them and President Barack Obama for not intervening more aggressively in Syria to depose President Bashar al-Assad, a longtime neocon target for “regime change.”

But the truth is that this accelerating spread of human suffering can be traced back directly to the unchecked influence of the neocons and their liberal fellow-travelers who have resisted political compromise and, in the case of Syria, blocked any realistic efforts to work out a power-sharing agreement between Assad and his political opponents, those who are not terrorists.

In early 2014, the neocons and liberal hawks sabotaged Syrian peace talks in Geneva by blocking Iran’s participation and turning the peace conference into a one-sided shouting match where U.S.-funded opposition leaders yelled at Assad’s representatives who then went home. All the while, the Post’s editors and their friends kept egging Obama to start bombing Assad’s forces.

The madness of this neocon approach grew more obvious in the summer of 2014 when the Islamic State, an Al Qaeda spinoff which had been slaughtering suspected pro-government people in Syria, expanded its bloody campaign of beheadings back into Iraq where this hyper-brutal movement first emerged as “Al Qaeda in Iraq” in response to the 2003 U.S. invasion.
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Robert Parry: How Neocons Destabilized Europe (Original Post) eridani Sep 2015 OP
^ nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #1
If federalism is good for the US and Canada, why not Ukraine? n/t eridani Sep 2015 #2
True, though federalism for some states and not others is problematic. If our South had 'federalism' pampango Sep 2015 #6
it's not good for radical or integralist leadership--everyone must be the same, MisterP Sep 2015 #8
"The madness of this neocon approach ..." brer cat Sep 2015 #3
Yep, they are crazy as shithouse rats, the ones who are not just stupid. bemildred Sep 2015 #5
+1,000 malaise Sep 2015 #4
Thanks for posting TubbersUK Sep 2015 #7

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
1. ^
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:36 AM
Sep 2015
But the truth is that this accelerating spread of human suffering can be traced back directly to the unchecked influence of the neocons and their liberal fellow-travelers who have resisted political compromise and, in the case of Syria, blocked any realistic efforts to work out a power-sharing agreement between Assad and his political opponents, those who are not terrorists.


Parry tells the truth no matter the consequences.

Notice all the silence surrounding the Libyan refugees, dying in the Med. Because "Regime Change". Disgusting. But Tripoli has a Cinnabon.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
6. True, though federalism for some states and not others is problematic. If our South had 'federalism'
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:42 AM
Sep 2015

but not the rest of the country, I could see how that could cause problems.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
8. it's not good for radical or integralist leadership--everyone must be the same,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:16 PM
Sep 2015

everyone must follow THEIR shining vision of an invincible nation bestriding the earth

it's like the separatists in Quebec: they have everything they wanted and cushy transfer payments they take credit for--so what do they do? play their hand and pick on the Jews, Anglos, and Muslims; Ceausescu banned abortion to have 100 million Romanians and take over Europe

brer cat

(24,581 posts)
3. "The madness of this neocon approach ..."
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:01 AM
Sep 2015

And there is the crux: madness. Those who believe war is the answer to all problems and who obstruct and sabotage more measured peaceful solutions are insane, filled with the lust for blood and power.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. Yep, they are crazy as shithouse rats, the ones who are not just stupid.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:21 AM
Sep 2015

Look at Cheney. The uncrazy ones know to shutup and not bring attention to themselves now, but not Cheney, he is nuts.

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
7. Thanks for posting
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:47 AM
Sep 2015

Looking over that history, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the neocons and their Middle-East allies see chaos and instability as an acceptable, perhaps desirable, outcome in certain ME countries.

It's the liberal hawks I just can't fathom. Why do they persist ? Naivety? Domestic ambition/political expediency?

Madness indeed.













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