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By Star-Advertiser staff
POSTED: 03:38 p.m. HST, May 21, 2012
LAST UPDATED: 02:01 a.m. HST, May 22, 2012
Two men who identified themselves as being from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office in Phoenix went to the Hawaii Department of Health Monday morning requesting verification of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, said a state spokeswoman.
A Hawaii deputy attorney general gave the men information concerning the legal requirements to obtain such a document; the requirements are posted on the Health Department's website. The two men then left the office, Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.
The two men showed Maricopa County Sheriff's Office badges and identified themselves as Michael Zullo and Brian Mackiewcz, Okubo said. They are "authorized by the Sheriff of Maricopa County, who is conducting an official investigation," a spokesman for the sheriff's office said in an email.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been researching Obama's residency status using a volunteer cold-case "posse," but now has employed a taxpayer-funded deputy, The Arizona Republic reported Monday.
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http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/152395115.html
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)jurisdiction there cowboy. There is very little more dangerous than a stupid cop and Maricopa county is infested with them, like roaches in a crack den.
I hope the taxpayers in Maricopa county enjoyed paying for this little vacation, I wonder if Sheriff Joe is having them put up at The Halekulani?
http://www.halekulani.com/
cali
(114,904 posts)using taxpayer money in this way?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been researching Obama's residency status using a volunteer cold-case "posse," but now has employed a taxpayer-funded deputy, The Arizona Republic reported Monday.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That is a new one in the continued adventures of Shurf Joe's Birfin Posse. The original purpose of it was to promote Corsi's book.
cali
(114,904 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)pnwmom
(108,996 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)and I really hope it becomes an issue during the re-election campaign of that racist skidmark.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)broiles
(1,370 posts)Sounds like a taxpayer funded vacation in paradise.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Just how brainwashed are these people?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)The Repubs must be getting desperate to get President Obama off the ballot in Arizona. Is Arizona in danger of going......gulp......BLUE this year?
I wonder how the residents of Arizona feel about their taxes going to pay for this birther nonsense? I think even Iowa Republicans are starting to get into this birther nonsense as well.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)period.
As long as Faux keeps drawing "ratings", and some billionaire feels he shouldn't pay a penny for anything, you'll have nutcases like this.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)tobacco industry "doctors" ...
lookingfortruth
(263 posts)yesterday and a couple other articles. Hawaii is getting like 50 NEW request for Obama's birth certificate each month
The question I have and what the Hawaiian Governor should ask in a press conference is for proof that they are demanding the same information about Willard "Mitt the Bully" Romney.
tru
(237 posts)I think I read awhile back that Hawaii was no longer granting those requests, because of the expense and because there's a limit to how many idiots they want to deal with. Some semi-official request may be different.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)What an idiot.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)I know he's been investigated by the feds...I suspect that he wants to use the Obama BC investigation as a way to derail any indictments against his Department. I can see his public defense along the lines of. "the only reason the Feds are after me is because I was going to break BC-Gate wide open". A real scumbag, this guy.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)What a complete waste of Tax Payer dollars.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)GOP fiscal responsibility at work. Or rather play. They already had the records a few days ago. More corruption and abuse at the end of the empire.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)Joe just loves wasting his taxpayers' money on wild goose chases.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)...then Maui, then the big island. The administrative fee will need to be paid to an official in the interior of Lanai, but only with a money order purchased in Philadelphia. After all the steps are complete, Hawaii should email the already-public long-form to the AZ SOS. Oh, and there should be webcams set up at each station along the way so the world can watch The Arizona Doofus Island Hop. Maybe in the corner there could be a tally of how much this is costing Arizona taxpayers, minute by minute.
suston96
(4,175 posts)....He could claim natural born citizenship from his mother a US citizen, who was born in Iowa.
I was not born in the US. Like so many other children of servicemen and civil servants or other Americans working overseas, a child born of such parentage needs only to be registered with US Embassy or US State Department to claim natural citizenship.
http://bccvisalaw.com/us-citizenship-by-birth.php
My father, a US citizen, registered my birth at the US Consulate in Palermo, Italy. He always pointed out that I could be president someday.
The birthers are wasting their time. They should check out [link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham] Stanley Ann Dunham [/link], Obama's mother, to see if she meets the requirements for retaining her US citizenship as she was much traveled and worked overseas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)aren't getting diddly squat.
A certified copy of a vital record (birth, death, civil union, marriage, or divorce certificate) is issued only to an applicant who has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons are considered to have such an interest:
the registrant (the person whom the record is concerned with);
the registrants spouse;
the registrants parent(s);
a descendant of the registrant (e.g., a child or grandchild);
a person having a common ancestor with the registrant (e.g., a sibling, grandparent, aunt/uncle, or cousin);
a legal guardian of the registrant;
a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
a personal representative of the registrants estate;
a person whose right to obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted childs natural or legal parents;
a person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
a person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
a person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.
If you are not able to establish a direct and tangible interest in the record, you are ineligible and will not be issued a certified copy of the record.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/elig_vrcc.html
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)They are there to verify the original, not to request a copy. Two of them, so as to have multiple witnesses able to confirm it's veracity, I would assume.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)The AZ SOS has already provided that verification. This is a publicity stunt for the deplorable Sheriff Arpaio.
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)When I was that age, I used to hook my J's in the other direction.
Oh, and on Alex Jones! Well, that's some reliable information then.
heaven knows
(26 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...of how a six year old spells his name?
I'm really fascinated to hear the truth so, out with it please.
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Say Hi to Orly for us.
Sid
heaven knows
(26 posts)Get. it. straight.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Perry is having a teabagging party in Austin.
azureblue
(2,152 posts)dearie... You deny the proof all you want to, but that doesn't make you right.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Again, please explain the significance of this interesting factoid, without changing the subject to something else please.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)babylonsister
(171,094 posts)If there was a shred of a possibility that the President was ineligible, don't you think we'd know that by now?
Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)Gomer Pyle and Otis Campbell were sworn in as volunteers this morning.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)that allows them to ignore facts and hard evidence and believe a rediculous fallacy.
LeftinOH
(5,358 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)FSogol
(45,529 posts)EC
(12,287 posts)he has no legal standing so why doesn't Brewer or someone tell him to stop this? This is a waste of Arizonia's taxpayers money.
On edit: nevermind, I thought (before reading it all) this was the SOS again. Sheriff Joe is just a fool and again the citizen's of Arizonia should demand repayment of the costs of this trip if Sheriff Joe is paying for this from state funds.
cali
(114,904 posts)Arizona is politically rotten to the core.
EC
(12,287 posts)the bill into law asking for BC from candidates.
jmowreader
(50,565 posts)The thing is, it IS a complete waste of the taxpayers' money, but if you were to ask 100 Arizona repukes what is an improper use of the taxpayers' money and gave them a list that had improving the public schools, feeding Arizona's hungry and investigating the president's birth certificate, not one of those assholes would say investigating the president is something the people of Arizona shouldn't be paying for.
aquart
(69,014 posts)Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)are Arizona taxpayers footing the bill? What hypocrisy.
Hatred gone wild.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)He is a small man with small ideas who will be smothered in the dust bin of time.
tandot
(6,671 posts)I thought teabaggers are against Government wasting their tax money?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)but if these wackos keep effing with them they will wake the sleeping giant.
Seems like the AZ posse are coming into Hawaii waving their guns. . . to AZ posse, don't f**k with Hawaii - LOL
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)madashelltoo
(1,701 posts)of the same damned birth certificate do these idiots need? Didn't this sheriff have a big expose about his findings earlier this year? Didn't they say his birth certificate was a fraud? Well, how many damned FRAUDULENT birth certificates does it take to stop an IDIOT POSSE?
caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . they open the Obama's mother's grave and find a wolf-skeleton.
Then they'll get knives from some creepy archeologist who tells them to look for the 666 hidden above Obama's hairline.
Following this, Arpaio will be killed in a weird curtain-cord accident. His first deputy will die from eating a fire hydrant, and the last will be wounded by a Secret Service agent's hooker and then tragically humped to death by Obama's dog. But not before the hero has shaved the chief executive's head to reveal the president's real birth certificate.
Just as the Birthers have warned.
azureblue
(2,152 posts)the two AZ deputies though they could show up and throw their weight around, try to intimidate some clerks, but were told the same thing they knew all along and rebuffed. That AZ redneck act don't fly in Hawaii. I was hoping they would try to get more aggressive and get a police escort out of the office, maybe out of the state, for abuse of their authority.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It is a mean way to dishonor Obama's mother. It is a cruel way to remind Obama that his mother died.
These people are just horrible.
And they are ignorant. I know how you get the birth of a child born abroad registered. And I know what the birth certificates look like and they don't look like Obama's birth certificate.
Well, maybe it is good if they continue to make fools of themselves like this because in the end, the truth will be plain to everyone except a few select idiotic, mean, nasty birthers.
Insulting Obama's mother. That's all they are doing.
panader0
(25,816 posts)You know there are still good, progressive people in this state. Raoul Grijalva for example. Janet Napolitano was our guv before the job was given to Brewer when Janet got "promoted". Arpiao is scum, and his is not the first time he has used the taxpayers money to take trips (either for himself or his cronies). I hope Ron Barber is able to beat Jesse Kelly for Giffords seat (where I live), or it could get worse. Too bad for a great state that just happens to have some idiots in office. A lot of older people retire here, a lot of ex-military too, and the pendulum swung to the right. Remember Mo and Stuart Udall? Remember Carl Hayden? There have been some fine democrats come from Az. I hope that we Dems can turn this state blue again.
LuckyLib
(6,821 posts)AZ on the part of this family -- driving through, business or otherwise. Zilch. We've told friends in AZ, "you come here to visit us. We have our own wacky Repugs, but nothing like yours!"
First the crazy immigration stuff, now this. Folks there should raise holy hell at the birther goofballs representing them.
BlueIris
(29,135 posts)It has totally embarrassed itself here. Scary.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)was born in Michigan. I should get paid plane tickets to Michigan to investigate. The time frame should be autumn. I love the north in the fall.
avebury
(10,952 posts)something that Oklahoma would do.
tcaudilllg
(1,553 posts)Way too nice.
upi402
(16,854 posts)More valid, more delegates too.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Why does anyone pay attention to these fools anymore? They have a theory that Obama was not born in the US. Well that theory has been proven wrong many times over including with an official birth certificate.
But that evidence didn't fit their version of the story so they are looking for more. Anything that they find that conflicts the "Obama is not a US citizen" story will be labeled as either a "forgery" or "lies".
If I were a resident of Maricopa county I would be raising hell about where my money was going.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)....nice work on the public dime, eh, Sheriff Joe?
Reminds me of this old article from The Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/six-flags-killer-still-at-large-say-souvenirbedeck,700/
'Six Flags Killer' Still At Large, Say Souvenir-Bedecked Police
GURNEE, ILLocal authorities continue to search Gurnee's Great America theme park for a criminal dubbed "The Six Flags Killer," souvenir-laden police reported Monday.
"If you have any information that might lead to the capture of this vicious killer, please contact us immediately," a button-covered Gurnee Police Captain Jack Moynihan said at a press conference held in Carousel Plaza. "We have officers standing by on the Whizzer."
"Oh," Moynihan added. "And if you know where to get one of those blinking hats we've been seeing around, let us know."
Police have been combing the attraction for clues, thoroughly investigating every ride, game, snack bar, gift shop, and photo-sticker booth.