Some here argue that a poor white person has no privilege over a wealthy black person

[CreekDog]

Well, tell that to James Blake, former tennis star, who was tackled by police.

EXCLUSIVE: James Blake, former tennis star, slammed to ground and handcuffed outside midtown hotel by white NYPD cops who mistook him for ID theft suspect

BY Wayne Coffey , Tina Moore , Larry Mcshane
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 9:15 PM

Retired black tennis star James Blake, in an NYPD double-fault, was slammed to a Manhattan sidewalk and handcuffed by a white cop in a brutal case of mistaken identity.

The 35-year-old Blake, once ranked No. 4 in the world, suffered a cut to his left elbow and bruises to his left leg as five cops eventually held him for 15 minutes Wednesday outside the Grand Hyatt Hotel.

...

Blake was only in cuffs for a minute after he was misidentified by a witness during a credit card fraud investigation, police said.

Blake, who was making a corporate appearance for Time-Warner Cable at the U.S. Open, was waiting for a car ride to the Queens tennis center after an interview with a magazine writer.

As he started texting on his phone, Blake looked up and saw someone in shorts and a T-shirt racing at him.

...

The unidentified officer picked Blake up, threw the 6-foot-1 player down on the sidewalk and commanded him to roll over facedown.

...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/ex-tennis-star-james-blake-mistakenly-tackled-white-cops-article-1.2353983

[malaise]

1. Racist to the core

Blake is also a Harvard graduate - they are going to pay big time for this one.
African-Americans have no rights - these ignorant racists are out of control.

[aidbo]

3. Harvard?! Remember Henry Louis Gates?

Harvard professor falsely arrested outside his own home.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversy

[malaise]

18. I thought about him immediately

We have no rights. The ignorant racists have been given the green light to terrorize us any and everywhere.

[kelliekat44]

32. Including here. nt

[rhett o rick]

2. Some one here says that? I doubt it. Maybe you have a link to back that up. nm

[bettyellen]

4. I have seen it said literally dozens of times here....

But if I put links in a post, someone would alert and try to convince a jury I was calling DUers racists. That's how it works here with alerts- people peg you as part of a group or something and just attack blindly.
Cannot believe you'veossed dozens of posts about this! I remember one in particular saying that after Sanders lifts "all boats" POC will be better off because they'll be able to afford lawyers!

[PeaceNikki]

8. .

GROUP hug!!

wink, wink, nudge, nudge

[bettyellen]

9. Where's our drummer?

[PeaceNikki]

14. Joe's Garage?

[bettyellen]

16. HA!

[Shandris]

11. Where could people get the idea that everything they disagree with makes...

...someone part of a group that must be attacked? That kind of blind attacking just because they're a 'different' group...

Actually I'll make it easy for everyone and acknowledge that yes, I'm a poster who doesn't buy into (most) of the privilege conversations. I don't bother mentioning it anymore typically, but there you go. I know I'm not alone (although you infiltrators can kindly go suck an egg, because I'm not on your side), but most of those who agree with me are silent. As it is noted...some groups don't like 'other' opinions around. It interrupts the narrative and meme-driving.

[bettyellen]

15. It's interesting how many "free speech" advocates like to shit down conversations by pretending

Issues don't even exist!
The idea that BLM is a sham group manufacturing issues has actually had a lot of traction with some here. It's bizarre.

[OneGrassRoot]

19. Gaslighting abounds. Sadly. :( n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Oh I cover race issues

I march with BLM regularly. (And it is good exercise to boot) I know privilege is real. I will not talk of these issues on Du either.

[bettyellen]

39. Not you, Nadin. But there is enough of a group here dedicated to gas lighting others that

makes me think they aren't who they say they are. They are a blight on DU.
YMMV.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. And think of the environment where those of us committed

Will not speak either

[questionseverything]

13. from the article...

“I have resources to get to the bottom of this. I have a voice,” Blake said. “But what about someone who doesn't have those resources and doesn’t have a voice?”

[bettyellen]

33. Such an important point- thanks for quoting that!

[zappaman]

30. More than dozens.

[bettyellen]

38. the irony of this baiting coming from those who have decided a "groups" alerts should be ignored...

is pretty rich. Some people are all too comfortable gaming the system any way they can, pretending they are for free speech all the while. It's ugly.

[RedCappedBandit]

6. Lol is this a joke? nt

[bettyellen]

12. Just the SOP denial you get around here...

[CreekDog]

41. It is a joke, and yet he is serious

see his other posts for more.

[CreekDog]

22. nice try

you tried to get us/me to put up a link to a post on DU and imply that it's racist, at night no less, knowing that would likely get it hidden.

nice try, but no deal.

[Cali_Democrat]

28. Clueless. nt

[bettyellen]

31. Gaslighting bullshit.

[CreekDog]

34. You taught me a new word!

And how to use it properly!

[bettyellen]

35. I lurve Cjeek Dogg!

[Takket]

5. The defense is probably going to be

"What could we do? They all look alike!"

[Starry Messenger]

7. He has a college education and a job.

And that still didn't stop the cops from harming him.

[CreekDog]

20. No. There are so many examples of how simply being black results in suspicion

And results in disparate treatment once any suspicion is raised.

Heck, I'm becoming convinced that even posting here while black is fraught with all the same types of reactions emanating from these same attitudes.

[Starry Messenger]

21. You are 100% correct.

[TDale313]

10. I really hope Blake makes this a huge public story.

And sues. Been a fan for a long time. Wish I could say this surprises me. Sadly, it does not.

[steve2470]

17. It's also happened to our recent Attorney General, Eric Holder

I know he isn't very popular on DU, but he HAS experienced racism first hand.

In meetings with residents, Holder shared his own stories of being pulled over and accosted by police while growing up in New York City — and of being skeptical of police even while serving as a federal prosecutor in Washington.

“I understand that mistrust. I am the attorney general of the United States. But I am also a black man,” Holder said during an appearance at Florissant Valley Community College. “I think about my time in Georgetown — a nice neighborhood of Washington — and I am running to a picture movie at about 8 o’clock at night. I am running with my cousin. Police car comes driving up, flashes his lights, yells ‘where you going? Hold it!’ I say, ‘Whoa, I’m going to a movie.’?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/eric-h-holder-jr-in-ferguson-shares-painful-memories-of-racism/2014/08/20/b05a2f62-289b-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

[rhett o rick]

23. Let me see if I got the logic of this OP. You say that there are some here that

post racist posts but you won't prove it because if you prove they post racist posts, you will get the hide. With that logic we can accuse others here of just about anything as long as we don't prove it.

I think it's inflammatory for you to call others here racists.

[CreekDog]

24. That's not what the OP says. How can you get a two sentences wrong?

Some here argue that a poor white person has no privilege over a wealthy black person

Well, tell that to James Blake, former tennis star, who was tackled by police.

And you don't stand with Sanders. Sanders does not stand with the people who say, "prove to me that there's racism".

[rhett o rick]

25. You say, "Some here argue that a poor white person has no privilege over a wealthy black person"

Some here? Really? Do you think that is racist of these mystical "some here"?

[LanternWaste]

26. Your premise is inaccurate resulting in a flawed conclusion

I think it's inflammatory for you to deny racism on DU exists (six of one, half a dozen of the other. Space provided below free of charge of insert creative rationalization of your choice).

"if you prove they post racist posts, you will get the hide."
Your premise is inaccurate resulting in a flawed conclusion (as you brought up logic, it seems appropriate that you adhere to it). One gets the hide for specifying a particular poster rather than proving racism; however I can certainly understand the convenience to conflate the two.

[rhett o rick]

27. But I didn't make that statement. The OP accuses DU posters of a very specific

claim. He uses the accusation to combine with a very racist event to besmirch other DU'ers. I find it hard to believe that "Some here argue that a poor white person has no privilege over a wealthy black person". "Some here"? More than one?

And the reasoning not to prove the accusation is the fear of getting a hide. If you call someone specifically a racist, you should get a hide, but if you link a thread and say you don't agree, you shouldn't fear a hide and more than for this OP that seems to be calling fellow DU'ers racists.

[Glassunion]

29. Arguing that a poor white person has no privilege over a wealthy black person is not racist.

So the OP is not stating racist intent on those who make the argument.

The argument itself has been had on DU many times. It however is a flawed argument, because "white privilege" does not equal wealth or affluence.

[bettyellen]

36. except no one accused them of "being racist". these inflammatory claims are also way too popular

in these parts. I.E. Saying "not enough&quot said or done about institutional racism)= "you're a racist". That bullshit keeps getting repeated despite being disproven dozens of times. Sanders even AGREED that he had't spoken to the issue enough, and has shown he is still listening and learning about it- but the bullshit continues here.

[Lizzie Poppet]

40. Two completely different forms of privilege.

White privilege and wealth privilege are completely different things, and I think it's a mistake to try any combine them (and other privileges) to come up with a person's overall "privilege level," as it were. It's all situational...

A good example for me, personally, would be my white privilege and my lack of male privilege. Which one matters (or matters more than the other) is entirely determined by the context of the situation I'm in.