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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 04:47 PM Sep 2015

I'm supposed to be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's milestone?

Longest-serving monarch (except Victoria). Wow.

I think if I was a gazillionaire who lived off the public, yet had absolutely no responsibility other than to show up at fancy dinners, or apologize for my asshole children every now and then, then I might "serve" my people for over 60 years as well.

Oh well. She lives on while we're still stuck with Mitch McConnell. I guess there are trade-offs.

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I'm supposed to be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's milestone? (Original Post) Atman Sep 2015 OP
The Royal Family is harmless hifiguy Sep 2015 #1
I'm impressed--and I am not a particular fan of "monarchy"--even "tourism monarchy." MADem Sep 2015 #2
She does play an active role in the government far beyond what most actually think... Historic NY Sep 2015 #3
A dictator for longer than Castro. lol Mika Sep 2015 #5
Castro was a dictator? ryan_cats Sep 2015 #45
I'm very impressed with Queen Elizabeth. cwydro Sep 2015 #4
Meh. She is just a caged animal LittleBlue Sep 2015 #6
Is someone trying to impress you with it? jberryhill Sep 2015 #7
Actually, yes. Atman Sep 2015 #14
Ah, you would have done well by not listening to it jberryhill Sep 2015 #19
She is 89 years old. herding cats Sep 2015 #30
She is the head of "The Firm" Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #8
She actually was a mechanic during WW II nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #9
Her kids did not serve in the same military as everyone else's kids. Atman Sep 2015 #15
I am sorry but they did nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #18
You are quite right. Byronic Sep 2015 #34
Proof? nt Logical Sep 2015 #25
Face it, they have done a lot more military and actual public service than most of smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #17
I know, I think you need to tell that to the OP nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #20
Sorry, I mean't that to be supportive, not to be snarky. smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #22
Not a problem nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #23
Someone is asking you to be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's longevity? FrodosPet Sep 2015 #10
This^ ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #12
There is no "except Victoria." EII is it. Period. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #11
Well, I didn't know that every time the Queen enters a checkered-floor room lunamagica Sep 2015 #13
After Paul McCartney was knighted... jberryhill Sep 2015 #21
My youth AngryAmish Sep 2015 #16
I'm old enough to be impressed and even encouraged by a person of 88 who is active as she is Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #24
Yeah if I'm going to inherit wealth, I'd rather it not be through the monarchy TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #44
When most people have long retired, she's still working. Boudica the Lyoness Sep 2015 #26
I am very fond of her. Admire her. 840high Sep 2015 #32
Psst! Be nice about her accomplishment and maybe we can trade McConnell Jamastiene Sep 2015 #27
I guess for some it doesn't take much to be impressed. mackerel Sep 2015 #28
The Queen is awesome. Works harder the most people at her age yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #29
Who is telling you that you are supposed to be impressed by Queen Elizabeth's milestone? Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #31
Elizabeth herself may be a take it or leave it monarch DemocraticWing Sep 2015 #33
No one is suffering under the "boot heels of monarchist tyrants." cwydro Sep 2015 #37
Help! Byronic Sep 2015 #38
Lol...my entire family is in a dungeon even as I write, cwydro Sep 2015 #39
It was quite obviously sarcasm. Atman Sep 2015 #42
I think monarchies are cool. romanic Sep 2015 #41
As an American you're not required to be impressed with the UK. ileus Sep 2015 #35
I didn't use the word "required" Atman Sep 2015 #36
The Queen Mum Byronic Sep 2015 #43
"I'm supposed to be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's milestone?" SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #40
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. The Royal Family is harmless
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 04:58 PM
Sep 2015

and Liz would legally have to sign her own death warrant if the parilamentary procedure was correct.

The royals and their castles are a good tourist attraction and an interesting anachronism.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. I'm impressed--and I am not a particular fan of "monarchy"--even "tourism monarchy."
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:04 PM
Sep 2015

She's spent a lifetime waving her country's flag, acting in a play that pleases a number of customers, and she's adapted her role and the script to suit changing times.

If the people want her out, they'll let her know.

Good on her--Auguri, Lisabetta--many more!


Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
3. She does play an active role in the government far beyond what most actually think...
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:07 PM
Sep 2015

The extent of the Queen and Prince Charles's secretive power of veto over new laws has been exposed after Downing Street lost its battle to keep information about its application secret.

Whitehall papers prepared by Cabinet Office lawyers show that overall at least 39 bills have been subject to the most senior royals' little-known power to consent to or block new laws. They also reveal the power has been used to torpedo proposed legislation relating to decisions about the country going to war.

The internal Whitehall pamphlet was only released following a court order and shows ministers and civil servants are obliged to consult the Queen and Prince Charles in greater detail and over more areas of legislation than was previously understood.

The new laws that were required to receive the seal of approval from the Queen or Prince Charles cover issues from higher education and paternity pay to identity cards and child maintenance.

In one instance the Queen completely vetoed the Military Actions Against Iraq Bill in 1999, a private member's bill that sought to transfer the power to authorise military strikes against Iraq from the monarch to parliament

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
4. I'm very impressed with Queen Elizabeth.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:07 PM
Sep 2015

She's been working an amazingly difficult job for more years than most people even live.

I'm a fan, and oh yes, I would take her over turtle face any day. Wait. Let me retract that because I love turtles.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. Meh. She is just a caged animal
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:15 PM
Sep 2015

The monarchy have no real power anymore, none that they can politically exercise anyway.

They serve no purpose beyond a spectacle for the masses, like the chimpanzees at the zoo.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Is someone trying to impress you with it?
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:15 PM
Sep 2015

It's the 60th anniversary of her father's death. I'm sure she's just whooping it up over that.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
14. Actually, yes.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:26 PM
Sep 2015

I just listened to a long-winded, glowing, fawning, drooling-over-themselves report on how awesome The Queen is and all of the "hard work" she has done. Hard work? Seriously? I'd like to see the callouses on her hands. She does NOTHING but wave at people and give speeches, while being millions of dollars by the taxpayers.

I'm not impressed. Give me that kind of gig and I promise I can also do nothing for sixty years and look swell while dining on one of my 400' yachts.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. Ah, you would have done well by not listening to it
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:39 PM
Sep 2015

I had a similar experience recently when I pushed a rusty knitting needle deep into my ear. It hurt like hell.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
30. She is 89 years old.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:38 PM
Sep 2015

I don't know many people that age with callouses on their hands.

She, nor any of the monarchy, are America's burden to bear for the past 239 years.

If she gets some press for surviving to such a major milestone in their history, it's going to be an international event. If that bother's you change the channel or close the webpage and just move on. Problem solved.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. She actually was a mechanic during WW II
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:19 PM
Sep 2015

and her kids have not ducked military service.

They have a lot of issues, but when their nation called, they did answer. (Unlike a few of our current leaders... and that includes well, Trump...)

Atman

(31,464 posts)
15. Her kids did not serve in the same military as everyone else's kids.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:28 PM
Sep 2015

No way, shape or form. They were just more PR for the monarchy.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. I am sorry but they did
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:34 PM
Sep 2015

they have a lot of privileges, but they did.

And I am not a fan of the monarchy but I can recognize that.

Have a good one. And by the way, BRITISH Citizens, for the most part, do like her. I am not sure about Charles, but they do like her. And it is their ISSUE.

Have a good day, another OP to trash.

Byronic

(504 posts)
34. You are quite right.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:47 AM
Sep 2015

Both Prince William and Prince Harry served in the military. As did Prince Andrew, Prince Charles, and, of course, Prince Philip is a decorated WWII veteran. There is no avoiding that fact.

There are fewer republicans in the UK today, percentage wise, than when Queen Victoria was on the throne. That has to be a testament to the job done by Elizabeth II.

The monarchy is there until the people no longer want it. That is understood by all. There is no tyranny there. The approval rating is through the roof.

Now, whether there are, these days, more 'Queen-ists' or 'Elizabeth-ists' than monarchists, will be tested at some point.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. Face it, they have done a lot more military and actual public service than most of
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:32 PM
Sep 2015

our cowardly, self serving politicians have ever done.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
10. Someone is asking you to be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's longevity?
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:25 PM
Sep 2015

Did you get an email or phone call? How did they word it?

"Atman, you better be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's longevity, or else!"

Was the conversation something like that?

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
13. Well, I didn't know that every time the Queen enters a checkered-floor room
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:59 PM
Sep 2015

she has to walk in a straight line or diagonally. It's protocol.

I'm impressed

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. After Paul McCartney was knighted...
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

...he had a hard time adjusting to that sidestep every three paces.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
24. I'm old enough to be impressed and even encouraged by a person of 88 who is active as she is
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:56 PM
Sep 2015

The Queen had 393 official engagements in 2014 " They included 18 engagements abroad during a day trip to see the Pope and Italy's President Giorgio Napolitano in Rome and a State visit to France that included the 70th anniversary of the D-Day landings."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/549762/2015-Queen-breaking-records-all-eyes-Prince-William-Princess-Middleton-next-royal-birth

Her job is actually full of duties. She does not dig ditches, and we Americans are not Monarchists but she's rather old and quite busy and I see no need to pretend otherwise.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
44. Yeah if I'm going to inherit wealth, I'd rather it not be through the monarchy
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:25 AM
Sep 2015

She lives in a very, very luxurious prison, and works more for her wealth than any other person who has inherited their money.

She's served her country with dignity, and a lot of Brits love her for it. So be it.

Long live the queen!

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
26. When most people have long retired, she's still working.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:04 PM
Sep 2015

You seem totally ignorant of her duties.

BTW She's served longer than Queen Victoria.

I love the woman and proud to say she is my Queen.

And she's still riding horses at 90 years old!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
27. Psst! Be nice about her accomplishment and maybe we can trade McConnell
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:09 PM
Sep 2015

for her. It would be a good trade, for us.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. The Queen is awesome. Works harder the most people at her age
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:27 PM
Sep 2015

England gets a ton of tourism moneies from her. They probably should pay her more. If not for the Queen, England would not be near as strong a country as they are. Long live the queen!

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
33. Elizabeth herself may be a take it or leave it monarch
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:38 AM
Sep 2015

But monarchy of any kind is awful and ridiculously inequitable, especially one as colonial and repressive as the British one. I feel for the people of the UK (and the former British Empire) who have suffered far too long under the boot heels of monarchist tyrants.

Thankfully the United States rid ourselves of that wretched system in 1776.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
37. No one is suffering under the "boot heels of monarchist tyrants."
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:12 AM
Sep 2015

LMAO. You obviously know nothing about the present day system of government in England.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
39. Lol...my entire family is in a dungeon even as I write,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:19 AM
Sep 2015

and here I am thousands of miles away unable to assist!

Atman

(31,464 posts)
42. It was quite obviously sarcasm.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:09 AM
Sep 2015

Poster forgot the tag. I'd like to think no one really thought it was a serious response, but then again...this IS Democratic Underground. It's what we DU here.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
41. I think monarchies are cool.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:39 AM
Sep 2015

Not as a government of course but just the whole imagery of a royal dynasty in a castle lording over parties and jousts and stuff like that. :3

Atman

(31,464 posts)
36. I didn't use the word "required"
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:28 AM
Sep 2015

You can always count on a certain type of DUer to get their knickers in a twist over their own perceived meaning of a single word regardless of context or usage. If I had indeed asked if I should be required to be impressed, these people might have a point. But we often use "supposed to" when saying things like "Children are supposed to have time to play!" Sorry, there is no law requiring play time. And, obviously (or it should be obvious), I do not feel statutorily obliged in any way to be impressed by the queen of England. It was just a thought which I found kind of humorous after listening to an American news anchor tell me, in no uncertain terms, that Queen Mum was perhaps the greatest thing ever to happen in the world.

Those DU language police may now return to their regularly scheduled outrage.

Byronic

(504 posts)
43. The Queen Mum
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:20 AM
Sep 2015

Just a tiny nitpick but the Queen Mum died in 2002. It was her daughter that your news anchor implored you to worship.

Not that the Queen Mum was a bad egg either, though.

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