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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm supposed to be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's milestone?
Longest-serving monarch (except Victoria). Wow.
I think if I was a gazillionaire who lived off the public, yet had absolutely no responsibility other than to show up at fancy dinners, or apologize for my asshole children every now and then, then I might "serve" my people for over 60 years as well.
Oh well. She lives on while we're still stuck with Mitch McConnell. I guess there are trade-offs.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and Liz would legally have to sign her own death warrant if the parilamentary procedure was correct.
The royals and their castles are a good tourist attraction and an interesting anachronism.
MADem
(135,425 posts)She's spent a lifetime waving her country's flag, acting in a play that pleases a number of customers, and she's adapted her role and the script to suit changing times.
If the people want her out, they'll let her know.
Good on her--Auguri, Lisabetta--many more!
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)The extent of the Queen and Prince Charles's secretive power of veto over new laws has been exposed after Downing Street lost its battle to keep information about its application secret.
Whitehall papers prepared by Cabinet Office lawyers show that overall at least 39 bills have been subject to the most senior royals' little-known power to consent to or block new laws. They also reveal the power has been used to torpedo proposed legislation relating to decisions about the country going to war.
The internal Whitehall pamphlet was only released following a court order and shows ministers and civil servants are obliged to consult the Queen and Prince Charles in greater detail and over more areas of legislation than was previously understood.
The new laws that were required to receive the seal of approval from the Queen or Prince Charles cover issues from higher education and paternity pay to identity cards and child maintenance.
In one instance the Queen completely vetoed the Military Actions Against Iraq Bill in 1999, a private member's bill that sought to transfer the power to authorise military strikes against Iraq from the monarch to parliament
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills
Mika
(17,751 posts)Ella ...
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Castro was a dictator? I thought he was a benevolent El-jefe?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)She's been working an amazingly difficult job for more years than most people even live.
I'm a fan, and oh yes, I would take her over turtle face any day. Wait. Let me retract that because I love turtles.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)The monarchy have no real power anymore, none that they can politically exercise anyway.
They serve no purpose beyond a spectacle for the masses, like the chimpanzees at the zoo.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It's the 60th anniversary of her father's death. I'm sure she's just whooping it up over that.
Atman
(31,464 posts)I just listened to a long-winded, glowing, fawning, drooling-over-themselves report on how awesome The Queen is and all of the "hard work" she has done. Hard work? Seriously? I'd like to see the callouses on her hands. She does NOTHING but wave at people and give speeches, while being millions of dollars by the taxpayers.
I'm not impressed. Give me that kind of gig and I promise I can also do nothing for sixty years and look swell while dining on one of my 400' yachts.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I had a similar experience recently when I pushed a rusty knitting needle deep into my ear. It hurt like hell.
herding cats
(19,568 posts)I don't know many people that age with callouses on their hands.
She, nor any of the monarchy, are America's burden to bear for the past 239 years.
If she gets some press for surviving to such a major milestone in their history, it's going to be an international event. If that bother's you change the channel or close the webpage and just move on. Problem solved.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and her kids have not ducked military service.
They have a lot of issues, but when their nation called, they did answer. (Unlike a few of our current leaders... and that includes well, Trump...)
Atman
(31,464 posts)No way, shape or form. They were just more PR for the monarchy.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)they have a lot of privileges, but they did.
And I am not a fan of the monarchy but I can recognize that.
Have a good one. And by the way, BRITISH Citizens, for the most part, do like her. I am not sure about Charles, but they do like her. And it is their ISSUE.
Have a good day, another OP to trash.
Byronic
(504 posts)Both Prince William and Prince Harry served in the military. As did Prince Andrew, Prince Charles, and, of course, Prince Philip is a decorated WWII veteran. There is no avoiding that fact.
There are fewer republicans in the UK today, percentage wise, than when Queen Victoria was on the throne. That has to be a testament to the job done by Elizabeth II.
The monarchy is there until the people no longer want it. That is understood by all. There is no tyranny there. The approval rating is through the roof.
Now, whether there are, these days, more 'Queen-ists' or 'Elizabeth-ists' than monarchists, will be tested at some point.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)our cowardly, self serving politicians have ever done.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I apologize if that came off the wrong way.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Did you get an email or phone call? How did they word it?
"Atman, you better be impressed with Queen Elizabeth's longevity, or else!"
Was the conversation something like that?
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Gosh, I cannot STAND threads that begin like that.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)she has to walk in a straight line or diagonally. It's protocol.
I'm impressed
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...he had a hard time adjusting to that sidestep every three paces.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The Queen had 393 official engagements in 2014 " They included 18 engagements abroad during a day trip to see the Pope and Italy's President Giorgio Napolitano in Rome and a State visit to France that included the 70th anniversary of the D-Day landings."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/549762/2015-Queen-breaking-records-all-eyes-Prince-William-Princess-Middleton-next-royal-birth
Her job is actually full of duties. She does not dig ditches, and we Americans are not Monarchists but she's rather old and quite busy and I see no need to pretend otherwise.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)She lives in a very, very luxurious prison, and works more for her wealth than any other person who has inherited their money.
She's served her country with dignity, and a lot of Brits love her for it. So be it.
Long live the queen!
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)You seem totally ignorant of her duties.
BTW She's served longer than Queen Victoria.
I love the woman and proud to say she is my Queen.
And she's still riding horses at 90 years old!
840high
(17,196 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)for her. It would be a good trade, for us.
mackerel
(4,412 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)England gets a ton of tourism moneies from her. They probably should pay her more. If not for the Queen, England would not be near as strong a country as they are. Long live the queen!
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)But monarchy of any kind is awful and ridiculously inequitable, especially one as colonial and repressive as the British one. I feel for the people of the UK (and the former British Empire) who have suffered far too long under the boot heels of monarchist tyrants.
Thankfully the United States rid ourselves of that wretched system in 1776.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)LMAO. You obviously know nothing about the present day system of government in England.
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)and here I am thousands of miles away unable to assist!
Atman
(31,464 posts)Poster forgot the tag. I'd like to think no one really thought it was a serious response, but then again...this IS Democratic Underground. It's what we DU here.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Not as a government of course but just the whole imagery of a royal dynasty in a castle lording over parties and jousts and stuff like that. :3
ileus
(15,396 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)You can always count on a certain type of DUer to get their knickers in a twist over their own perceived meaning of a single word regardless of context or usage. If I had indeed asked if I should be required to be impressed, these people might have a point. But we often use "supposed to" when saying things like "Children are supposed to have time to play!" Sorry, there is no law requiring play time. And, obviously (or it should be obvious), I do not feel statutorily obliged in any way to be impressed by the queen of England. It was just a thought which I found kind of humorous after listening to an American news anchor tell me, in no uncertain terms, that Queen Mum was perhaps the greatest thing ever to happen in the world.
Those DU language police may now return to their regularly scheduled outrage.
Byronic
(504 posts)Just a tiny nitpick but the Queen Mum died in 2002. It was her daughter that your news anchor implored you to worship.
Not that the Queen Mum was a bad egg either, though.
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Not that I'm aware of.