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I am watching Barack Obama on MSNBC. Gawd, I wish there was no 22nd Amendment. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 OP
I know Abouttime Sep 2015 #1
I wouldn't go that far but elected officials should have their fate decided at the ballot box... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #6
So you wanted a third Reagan term? yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #8
If that is what my fellow citizens wanted I would not limit their franchise. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #9
I don't know because bush sr won as supposed Reagan 3rd term yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #10
PBO is where FDR was in 1940 but the nation is in much better shape. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #11
He had Alzheimers so he wouldn't have run. (nt) sunnystarr Sep 2015 #12
He wouldn't have known what running was madokie Sep 2015 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #13
The 22nd Amendment was passed by a Republican Congress who was in a pique because of FDR. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #14
I wish GWB was president for life. bigwillq Sep 2015 #2
If the people were willing to re-elect him as a small d democrat I would have to live with the ... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #7
FDR wasn't treestar Sep 2015 #17
Oof. Listen to yourself. Brickbat Sep 2015 #3
Classic Obama -- just awesome to watch eissa Sep 2015 #4
(paraphrasing) GummyBearz Sep 2015 #30
he was proudly promoting unions....then m$nbc cut away. spanone Sep 2015 #5
Can't we just bring it back for PBO? That being said, I was glad when others had to pack it up & go. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #15
I trust the people to get it right. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #16
Wasn't the 22nd Amendment decided at the ballot box? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #18
What Constitutional Amendment to the United States Constitution did you vote on? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #19
You are correct. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #20
No problem. BTW, the 22nd Amendment came out of a Republican congress who were in a pique... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #23
You're absolutely right underthematrix Sep 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2015 #21
I am glad you are such a big fan of the 80th Congress DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #24
I wish there was a term limit for congresscritters Flying Squirrel Sep 2015 #25
I would love it if President Obama had a 3rd and 4th term. But not underthematrix Sep 2015 #27
F that Buzz cook Sep 2015 #28
maybe a reality show!!?? wendylaroux Sep 2015 #29
I've been thinking lately how I'm going to miss the Obama presidency Matariki Sep 2015 #31
Ya...well...it's one of those things that I do quite often...Your real thought was Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #32
He or she or any elected official should have the right to stay in office... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #33
Nobody needs to serve more than two terms. Nobody. marmar Sep 2015 #34
BCWYWFor. There MIGHT have been a third Dubya term. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #35

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. I wouldn't go that far but elected officials should have their fate decided at the ballot box...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:46 AM
Sep 2015

I wouldn't go that far but elected officials should have their fate decided at the ballot box and not by diktat. Term limits are arbitrary limits on the franchise of the voters.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. If that is what my fellow citizens wanted I would not limit their franchise.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:03 PM
Sep 2015

I suspect Reagan wouldn't have run for re-election at 77 years old though.

A third Clinton term would have been fine with me. Clinton v W would have been a fun campaign.



 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
10. I don't know because bush sr won as supposed Reagan 3rd term
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:06 PM
Sep 2015

The problem is that except for president Obama, most second terms are horrible.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. PBO is where FDR was in 1940 but the nation is in much better shape.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:08 PM
Sep 2015

Back to Reagan I don't think he would have lost because he was too old. He wouldn't have run at all, imho.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. He wouldn't have known what running was
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:03 PM
Sep 2015

barely knew his name by the time his second term ended. Curled up in a ball in bed is not a good campaign strategy, if you ask me that is

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #6)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. If the people were willing to re-elect him as a small d democrat I would have to live with the ...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:48 AM
Sep 2015

If the people were willing to re-elect him as a small d democrat I would have to live with the results. Ironically your remarks prove my point...If he ran for a third term , by all accounts, he would had his ass handed to him, ultimately proving the wisdom of the American people.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
4. Classic Obama -- just awesome to watch
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:45 AM
Sep 2015

Hitting all the right points. Loved the Brady reference: "the union had his back. If Brady needs a union, you know workers do!" (paraphrasing)

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
30. (paraphrasing)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:44 PM
Sep 2015

"But lets not forget about the TPP. Big corps need their profits. So, as we can see, I have triangulated quite well as usual. I am a great speaker. Good night all"

spanone

(135,844 posts)
5. he was proudly promoting unions....then m$nbc cut away.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:46 AM
Sep 2015

our media is fooked...now on to Lockup: Raw....riveting & cheap programming

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
15. Can't we just bring it back for PBO? That being said, I was glad when others had to pack it up & go.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 02:41 PM
Sep 2015

I don't trust the American people with these decisions. They "elected" W, and there seems to be a building consensus that we could actually wind up with a President Trump. Now if that doesn't scare the bejeebus out of any rational thinking adult, I don't know what will.

Rock on Barack Obama. Best president of my lifetime.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. I trust the people to get it right.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
Sep 2015

My dear friend, I trust the people to get it right and if we can't we might as well cancel this experiment in self rule now as flawed as it is.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. What Constitutional Amendment to the United States Constitution did you vote on?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:20 PM
Sep 2015
Wasn't the 22nd Amendment decided at the ballot box? I thought all Constitutional amendments were.



What Constitutional Amendment to the United States Constitution did you or any voters vote on?


I don't believe that's how the federal constitutional amendment process works.

Also, limiting or extending the franchise isn't submitted to a plebiscite.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
23. No problem. BTW, the 22nd Amendment came out of a Republican congress who were in a pique...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:47 PM
Sep 2015

No problem. BTW, the 22nd Amendment came out of a Republican congress who were in a pique about FDR's third term.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
25. I wish there was a term limit for congresscritters
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:08 PM
Sep 2015

And I'm perfectly happy with a 2-term limit for presidents. Especially in the current polarized climate.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
27. I would love it if President Obama had a 3rd and 4th term. But not
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:27 PM
Sep 2015

possible. Instead, we have the OBAMA PRESIDENTIAL CENTER in Chicago with satellite centers in New York and Hawaii. The centers will support and promote #BlackScholarship @BlackExcellence #BlackLegacy #BlackWealth

Buzz cook

(2,472 posts)
28. F that
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:30 PM
Sep 2015

Either Sanders or Clinton will be a much better president than Obama. The man isn't close to being a liberal and he's failed repeatedly in defending the democratic party. With Obama we're one grand bargain away from destroying Social Security and other hard fought liberal gains.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
31. I've been thinking lately how I'm going to miss the Obama presidency
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 02:06 AM
Sep 2015

But nonetheless, absolutely would not want an end to the 22nd Amendment. No way.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
32. Ya...well...it's one of those things that I do quite often...Your real thought was
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:44 AM
Sep 2015

how it would be great if he stayed president? (perhaps?) and instead it became a discussion about the amendment.

I admire him so much - after having half the world against him from day 1 - having people accuse him of not being born here - having republicans vote against everything he proposed - everything - without even looking at it first...the man rose above it every last time.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
33. He or she or any elected official should have the right to stay in office...
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:47 AM
Sep 2015

He or she or any elected official should have the right to stay in office...with the consent of the people...as expressed by their franchise.


But PBO has been an especially good pres.


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