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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:42 PM Sep 2015

Ky. clerk’s attorney: Marriage licenses ‘not worth the paper they’re written on’

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/09/04/with-defiant-clerk-in-jail-gay-marriage-licenses-finally-issued-in-kentucky-county/

MOREHEAD, Ky. –?An attorney for jailed Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis said that the marriage licenses issued Friday to a series of same-sex couples here are not valid.

“They are not worth the paper they’re written on,” Mat Staver said outside the Carter County Detention Center, where Davis is being held on a contempt charge.

“Our position and the position of the clerk of Rowan County is that those licenses are void,” Staver said at an afternoon news conference in Grayson, about 35 miles from the Rowan County Courthouse.

Staver said the licenses issued Friday aren’t valid because they were issued under the county clerk’s authority — but Davis hasn’t granted that authority.

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They are issued under the authority of the OFFICE of county clerk, not Kim Davis personally. So, you're wrong Mr. Staver.
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Ky. clerk’s attorney: Marriage licenses ‘not worth the paper they’re written on’ (Original Post) steve2470 Sep 2015 OP
Just add to their damages tally. Nit wit. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2015 #1
No Mr. Staver, you are VOID. In fact, someone should look into disbarring you for making such inane still_one Sep 2015 #2
Well then all she has to do is leave jail and...oh...right...she can't can she? Rex Sep 2015 #3
So are they saying that if she was in hospital, on leave or dropped dead malaise Sep 2015 #14
Of course not Trekologer Sep 2015 #15
Yes! Why even Death himself would take a vacaneymoon! Rex Sep 2015 #17
ROFL malaise Sep 2015 #21
Ugh. This whole mess had me almost thinking the libertarians are right Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #4
It certainty makes one wonder! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #7
So now the attorney's point of view thecrow Sep 2015 #5
Their egos are amazing to behold. Almost godlike in their view of the world. Rex Sep 2015 #9
Oh, I thought you were talking about attorneys generally jberryhill Sep 2015 #10
LOL! Rex Sep 2015 #11
The odds are not in their favor. nt truebluegreen Sep 2015 #23
Her attorney is a blithering idiot! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #6
Issued by the clerk of court's office, they're valid Warpy Sep 2015 #8
Exactly Aerows Sep 2015 #13
Apparently Franklin Graham has set up a "Christian" funding site for her Warpy Sep 2015 #18
So far, it's only raised $40. I hope it stays that way. mnhtnbb Sep 2015 #29
Ten pounds of horse manure hifiguy Sep 2015 #12
God, the imagery. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #25
Go ahead, asswipes. Try and void those licenses. Solly Mack Sep 2015 #16
And the earth will remain round even if you say it is flat Mr. Staver. Now STFU yellowcanine Sep 2015 #19
Just because your law license isn't worth the paper it's written on, doesn't make all licenses hobbit709 Sep 2015 #20
Mat Staver - Once a pastor, always a pastor. LiberalAndProud Sep 2015 #22
Says the lawyer for the woman who has been married four times mythology Sep 2015 #24
I always defend attorneys, we all should, without them we could be very fucked someday. randys1 Sep 2015 #26
After seeing the tv series walkingman Sep 2015 #27
So if she ws on vacation no on signs the certificates? nt Logical Sep 2015 #28
The Rowan County attorney disagrees with her riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #30

still_one

(92,470 posts)
2. No Mr. Staver, you are VOID. In fact, someone should look into disbarring you for making such inane
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

statements

but I guess if that happened, there would be no republican lawyers

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. Well then all she has to do is leave jail and...oh...right...she can't can she?
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

WHATTHEFUCKEVER Mr. Nobody Attorney!

malaise

(269,225 posts)
14. So are they saying that if she was in hospital, on leave or dropped dead
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 04:31 PM
Sep 2015

that no one could get married?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Yes! Why even Death himself would take a vacaneymoon!
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 04:35 PM
Sep 2015

Time would halt and goats would quit eating soup cans. Rain would fall upwards and birds would walk everywhere instead of fly!

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
4. Ugh. This whole mess had me almost thinking the libertarians are right
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

And the whole idea of a license to marry from the government is stupid.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
5. So now the attorney's point of view
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:52 PM
Sep 2015

and personal judgement invalidates a federal judge and the supremes?
Boy are these loonies over the top with their self righteousness.
"I'm not crazy, it's the rest of the world that's insane"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Their egos are amazing to behold. Almost godlike in their view of the world.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:56 PM
Sep 2015

Then again cult-fundies are like that.

Warpy

(111,389 posts)
8. Issued by the clerk of court's office, they're valid
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:55 PM
Sep 2015

and I doubt a snot slinging hissy fit by some right wing lawyer who takes it to court will change that.

The other employees have done an end run around Davis and her equally idiotic son. Who knows where this will end---maybe the family will have to give up their fiefdom as the voters chuck Kim out and pass a resolution against nepotism within government offices.

I can dream, anyway.

I hope there's a new Shiny Object soon for the media to focus on. Being forgotten in jail will bring her around fairly quickly.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Exactly
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 04:28 PM
Sep 2015

Let her sit there and rot while the world goes on without her (and she can't get funding through gofundme anymore).

The second the publicity and possible money disappears, so will her "Christian" resolve.

Warpy

(111,389 posts)
18. Apparently Franklin Graham has set up a "Christian" funding site for her
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 04:39 PM
Sep 2015

It will be interesting to see what percentage he scrapes off the top.

There is no honor among fundy thieves, you know.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. Ten pounds of horse manure
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 04:24 PM
Sep 2015

in a five pound sack.

IF the office issues the license, the license is valid.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
20. Just because your law license isn't worth the paper it's written on, doesn't make all licenses
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 04:46 PM
Sep 2015

the same.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
24. Says the lawyer for the woman who has been married four times
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 05:21 PM
Sep 2015

I get that divorces happen, but she has gone through a number of them, seemingly under some interesting circumstances and it doesn't exactly show a real commitment to the value of her marriages that she hasn't been able to make it work given four marriages.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. I always defend attorneys, we all should, without them we could be very fucked someday.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 05:30 PM
Sep 2015

Having said that:


This guy is an asshole, a bigot and should not be allowed to practice law.

walkingman

(7,673 posts)
27. After seeing the tv series
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 05:31 PM
Sep 2015

Justified I wondered if Kentucky was that much like "deliverance" - it is. But who am I to point fingers I live in Texas. Although I do live in Austin which is without doubt the most same city in the hell hole.

Fire the lady and move on!!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
30. The Rowan County attorney disagrees with her
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 08:04 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-kentucky-clerk-gay-marriage-20150904-story.html

At least three gay couples received marriage licenses Friday from one of Davis' deputies, embracing and celebrating after repeatedly being turned away before Davis was jailed on Thursday. Their attorneys, along with Rowan County Attorney Cecil Watkins, said the licenses are valid. Bunning said Thursday he did not know if the licenses were valid but ordered them to be issued anyway.

Marriage licenses in Kentucky usually have the elected clerk's signature on them; those handed out Friday lacked any signature. The Rowan County attorney and lawyers for the gay couples said they are legal and valid nevertheless. When the judge was asked if the licenses will be considered valid without Davis' authorization, he said it was up to the gay couples to take that chance.
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