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Fearless

(18,421 posts)
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:35 PM Aug 2015

Obama Will Restore Mt. McKinley's Name To Denali On Alaska Trip

WASHINGTON, Aug 30 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Monday will officially restore Denali as the name of North America's tallest mountain, ending a 40-year battle over what to call the peak that has been known as Mount McKinley.

The symbolic gesture comes at the beginning of a three-day trip to Alaska where Obama hopes to build support for his efforts to address climate change during his remaining 16 months in office.

The peak was named Mount McKinley in 1896 after a gold prospector exploring the region heard that Ohioan William McKinley, a champion of the gold standard, had won the Republican nomination for president.

But Alaska natives had long before called the mountain Denali, meaning "the High One." In 1975, the state of Alaska officially designated the mountain as Denali, and has since been pressing the federal government to do the same.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-denali-alaska_55e36f8ce4b0aec9f35398f3?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013&section=politics

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Obama Will Restore Mt. McKinley's Name To Denali On Alaska Trip (Original Post) Fearless Aug 2015 OP
Geography is when I was taught the mountain is Mt. McKineley Cry Aug 2015 #1
Me too...I love the name Denali passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #24
McKinley will always have his monument at Antietam, where he "served" his countrymen . . . Journeyman Aug 2015 #2
Supplying fellow soldiers under fire Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #3
I didn't say it wasn't. Hell of a monument for it, though, wouldn't you agree?. . . Journeyman Aug 2015 #7
I kind of love this monument. surrealAmerican Aug 2015 #9
We've always memorialized our United States Presidents Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #18
I like that he was a sergeant hardluck Aug 2015 #34
Oooooo, they gon' be mad alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #4
They already are nxylas Aug 2015 #15
I live here. no one calls it McKinley. tell that person to shut up. the native people win this one roguevalley Aug 2015 #30
"States' rights! States' rights!" Unless/until... Beartracks Aug 2015 #45
Meanwhile, an intern at Fox News is now checking if "Denali" is in the Quran. GoCubsGo Aug 2015 #5
I've been there and everyone I met (not just the natives) called it Denali (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #6
I never heard the word before today. Shandris Aug 2015 #8
about time... Agony Aug 2015 #10
"Ohioans will just have to get over it…" bvf Sep 2015 #69
Was it the Daily Show or Jon Oliver that did a spot on this? randome Aug 2015 #11
Jon Stewart... 2naSalit Aug 2015 #21
I wish that allowing oil drilling JEB Aug 2015 #12
From what I've read, "Denali" is the original name anyway. DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #13
Kinda like Leningrad reverting to St. Petersburg. hifiguy Aug 2015 #14
You got it. DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #35
I climbed it in 1988. It is spectacular by any name. kairos12 Aug 2015 #16
Palin Facebook Meltdown Coming in 3....2...1... tishaLA Aug 2015 #17
She can now see Denali from her house. kairos12 Aug 2015 #22
She can see Elves, Goblins, and Orcs from her house ... revmclaren Aug 2015 #26
she should where she lives. :D roguevalley Aug 2015 #31
She actually can see Denali from her house, Blue_In_AK Sep 2015 #68
The cognitive dissonance and meltdown will be caused by the fact truebluegreen Aug 2015 #37
She'll try to take credit for it underpants Aug 2015 #54
nah, he's just shoving unilateral decisions down the throats of American people 0rganism Aug 2015 #60
Since she has referred to it as Denali many times dbackjon Aug 2015 #44
Denali is not just a mountain in Alaska underpants Aug 2015 #53
I've always called it Denali pokerfan Aug 2015 #19
Why can't places named after assassinated Presidents STAY named for them, in honor? MEANwhile, WinkyDink Aug 2015 #20
No idea what you mean Action_Patrol Aug 2015 #28
I have no idea what your point is. WinkyDink Aug 2015 #57
Congratulations. Action_Patrol Aug 2015 #63
Agreed. Liberal In Texas Aug 2015 #43
A few reasons Glassunion Aug 2015 #50
He eventually WAS assassinated as Pres., so why not leave it be? WinkyDink Aug 2015 #58
The mountain was named as a political stunt by a prospector Glassunion Aug 2015 #61
perhaps because that isn't the name it has been known by for centuries? niyad Aug 2015 #65
as a matter of curiosity, how many things/places, etc., are named after lincoln (other than niyad Aug 2015 #66
It wasn't named after an assassinated President - or a president at all jberryhill Aug 2015 #52
Yeah, I READ that, but WE KNOW "the rest of the story," do we not? WinkyDink Aug 2015 #59
Great news! Hekate Aug 2015 #23
confusing..don't you think.. renaming stuff Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #25
since no one up here calls it McKinley, no. :D roguevalley Aug 2015 #32
.. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #47
HI, LIBERAL! roguevalley Aug 2015 #48
This is so very appropriate Gothmog Aug 2015 #27
If the truth be told, it's always been Mt. Denali Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #29
Meanwhile I still get Cape Canaveral and Cape Kennedy mixed up csziggy Aug 2015 #33
Change the name of JFK Airport back to Idlewild 1939 Aug 2015 #42
Yeah, I have no objection to that csziggy Aug 2015 #55
I have been calling it chomolungma ever since I learned that that is its name. niyad Aug 2015 #64
Excellent! n/t csziggy Aug 2015 #67
Caribou Barbie is gonna be in a quandary. truebluegreen Aug 2015 #36
Denali is not just a mountain in Alaska. mhatrw Aug 2015 #38
Obama's hatred of white history? left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #39
You mean switched FROM the Cartoon Network? Fearless Aug 2015 #40
Denali sounds cooler. Plus it has some nice meaning in the computer world. :D nt 4lbs Aug 2015 #41
Let the trend continue in the Cascades Thunderbeast Aug 2015 #46
A matter of negative interest to me. WillowTree Aug 2015 #49
I'm still waiting for the checkmate move republicans are always crying about. Glassunion Aug 2015 #51
Grand Escalante to be renamed Grand Escalade dbackjon Aug 2015 #56
Honestly, I thought that had been done years ago. KamaAina Aug 2015 #62
 

Cry

(65 posts)
1. Geography is when I was taught the mountain is Mt. McKineley
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:38 PM
Aug 2015

but during my fact-finding research, I happen to be very fond of the name "Denali" - and it really fits. I'm glad Obama is doing the right thing.

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
2. McKinley will always have his monument at Antietam, where he "served" his countrymen . . .
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:40 PM
Aug 2015

From the monument:

[center]WILLIAM McKINLEY

January 29, 1843 - September 14, 1901
Fourteen Years Member of Congress
Twice Governor of Ohio 1892-3 and 1894-5
Twice President of United States 1897 - 1900 - 1901

Sergeant McKinley Co. E. 23rd Ohio Vol. Infantry,
while in charge of the Commissary Department,
on the afternoon of the day of the battle of Antietam, September 17, 1862,
personally and without orders served "hot coffee" and "warm food"
to every man in the Regiment,
on this spot and in doing so had to pass under fire.

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
7. I didn't say it wasn't. Hell of a monument for it, though, wouldn't you agree?. . .
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:10 PM
Aug 2015

Especially when compared to the markers at the Burnside Bridge, just a hundred meters down the hill, the place from which the men McKinley served had just passed over after a day's fighting.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/piedmont_fossil/19843473750

surrealAmerican

(11,363 posts)
9. I kind of love this monument.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:27 PM
Aug 2015

It's a question of values. Is feeding people as important as killing people, or destroying the enemy's things?

It's an odd monument, but it puts things in a different perspective.

hardluck

(640 posts)
34. I like that he was a sergeant
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

Enlisted as a private and worked his way up to brevet major. He didn't buy his commission. That's impressive.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
15. They already are
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:58 PM
Aug 2015

The first I heard about it was when I saw a post on Facebook about it. I don't even know the poster, and have no idea how she came to be in my friends list, she just sort of appeared there. Most of the stuff she posts is innocuous "follow your dreams" glurge, but this was her in "I'm outraged, because Obama" mode. No indication of what is supposed to be outrageous about it, the best the people posting replies could manage is the usual "aren't there more important things he could be doing?" that reich-wingnuts always resort to when they don't want to say the real reason they're upset with Obama.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
30. I live here. no one calls it McKinley. tell that person to shut up. the native people win this one
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:15 PM
Aug 2015

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
45. "States' rights! States' rights!" Unless/until...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:16 PM
Aug 2015

a) Obama acknowledges or responds positively to what a state wants;

b) a state seeks something that acknowledges or responds to native or traditional things;

c) the state has a Democratic Governor; or

d) Obama.

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GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
5. Meanwhile, an intern at Fox News is now checking if "Denali" is in the Quran.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:57 PM
Aug 2015

But, seriously, I thought it had been renamed "Denali" back when they renamed the National Park. I have been calling it "Mt. Denali" for almost 30 years. Better late than never, I guess. I'm sure the wing nuts are having a huge hissy fit over it, though.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
8. I never heard the word before today.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:19 PM
Aug 2015

I was taught Mt. McKinley by this ancient video game I used to have (I didn't even know where it was supposed to be at!), and that just stuck in my mind for too many years.

Interesting to learn about it and the naming of the park/mountain. Sounds better, too.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
10. about time...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:32 PM
Aug 2015

Ohioans will just have to get over it…

Kudos to President Obama for honoring native americans.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Was it the Daily Show or Jon Oliver that did a spot on this?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:36 PM
Aug 2015

Regardless, it's good news.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

DinahMoeHum

(21,806 posts)
13. From what I've read, "Denali" is the original name anyway.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:49 PM
Aug 2015

So, I have no real problem with this re-re-naming.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
68. She actually can see Denali from her house,
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 04:33 AM
Sep 2015

or she might have to step out from behind some trees, but it's definitely close to where she lives. I can't see it from my house, but I can see it from about a half mile from here. It's really, REALLY big.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
37. The cognitive dissonance and meltdown will be caused by the fact
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:46 PM
Aug 2015

that she agrees with her president...too funny. Ouch.

I've never met or heard any Alaskan call that mountain anything but Denali. And McKinley never set foot in Alaska, which means he's of no account from the git go (to the rugged individualists up there like Sarah and the First Dude).

underpants

(182,870 posts)
54. She'll try to take credit for it
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:47 PM
Aug 2015

You just watch. Either that or she will go on a rant about having remember a whole knew name for it.

Everybody will laugh at her no matter what she does

0rganism

(23,967 posts)
60. nah, he's just shoving unilateral decisions down the throats of American people
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 06:18 PM
Aug 2015

it doesn't matter if the American people want the decisions, or at least their results
no one likes having things shoved down their throats
hey, it worked for her bunch in 2010...

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
19. I've always called it Denali
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:11 PM
Aug 2015

I live in Washington State and have a cousin who lives in Alaska.

The mountain was originally known as Denali. Alaska requested that the mountain be recognized as "Denali," meaning "the great one" in the Athabaskan languages of the Alaska Natives living around the mountain, which is the common name in Alaska. Attempts by Alaska to have Mount McKinley's name changed by the federal government were blocked by members of the congressional delegation from Ohio, the homestate of mountain namesake William McKinley. In 2015 the Obama administration restored the name of the mountain to Denali.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali%E2%80%93Mount_McKinley_naming_dispute
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
20. Why can't places named after assassinated Presidents STAY named for them, in honor? MEANwhile,
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:11 PM
Aug 2015

we have Reagan International Airport.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
28. No idea what you mean
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:02 PM
Aug 2015

I live very close to the airport and it will always be 'National' Airport to me. No idea who the crappy bronze statue out front is supposed to be of though.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
50. A few reasons
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:33 PM
Aug 2015

1. It already had a name
2. It wasn't named for an assassinated president
3. It already had a name
4. He already has a shit-ton of stuff named after him
5. It already had a name

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
61. The mountain was named as a political stunt by a prospector
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 07:11 PM
Aug 2015

ignoring a thousand years of what the natives called it. That'd be like a real estate agent naming a mountain in Oregon "Mt. Jindal". It's absurd.

niyad

(113,534 posts)
66. as a matter of curiosity, how many things/places, etc., are named after lincoln (other than
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:37 PM
Aug 2015

the car and a city?)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. It wasn't named after an assassinated President - or a president at all
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:41 PM
Aug 2015

It was called that by a prospector when McKinley was a presidential candidate, and for purely political purposes.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
29. If the truth be told, it's always been Mt. Denali
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:04 PM
Aug 2015

. . . and McKinley was a lousy and corrupt President.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
33. Meanwhile I still get Cape Canaveral and Cape Kennedy mixed up
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:23 PM
Aug 2015

When I was growing up it was Canaveral for all the early space launches. Then it was renamed for President Kennedy after his assassination. Sometime later they renamed the physical location Canaveral and but retained the name for the Kennedy Space Center.

I'm still waiting for the world to stop calling that one mountain "Everest" and call it either Sagarmāthā or Chomolungma.

1939

(1,683 posts)
42. Change the name of JFK Airport back to Idlewild
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 02:09 PM
Aug 2015

Poor Colonel Idlewild got disrespected back during the rage to rename everything after JFK.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
55. Yeah, I have no objection to that
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:14 PM
Aug 2015

Considering I have and likely never will fly into that airport.

The Space Center was much more appropriate to name for him. Changing the geographic location was stupid, though.

niyad

(113,534 posts)
64. I have been calling it chomolungma ever since I learned that that is its name.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:34 PM
Aug 2015

love explaining it to people.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
36. Caribou Barbie is gonna be in a quandary.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:42 PM
Aug 2015

As a half-term former gov and resident of the great state of Alaska, I bet she approves, as do her former half-term constituents...but but but Obama!

heh

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
39. Obama's hatred of white history?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 12:32 PM
Aug 2015

I just saw about 5 minutes of a "news show" on a religious cable channel.
They said "some people" feel Obama is trying to destroy as much white history as possible before he leaves office.

That's when I switched to the Cartoon Network.

Thunderbeast

(3,418 posts)
46. Let the trend continue in the Cascades
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:56 PM
Aug 2015

Denali is the proper name for Alaska's magnificent landmark.

Others in the Pacific Northwest have lived with equally misplaced names. Some named for American presidents, others for British military officers who never visited the western hemisphere.

I hope the beautiful original names are returned to these peaks as well.

Kulshan..........Mt. Baker
Tahoma..........Mt. Rainier
Loo Witt..........Mt. St. Helens
Klickitat..........Mt. Adams
Wy'East..........Mt. Hood
Seekseekqua...Mt. Jefferson


Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
51. I'm still waiting for the checkmate move republicans are always crying about.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:37 PM
Aug 2015

Step 1. Take over General Motors
Step 2. Rename National Monuments after GM vehicles
Step 3. ????
Step 4. Fascist 'Merica

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