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man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
Mon May 21, 2012, 02:59 PM May 2012

Today I had the distinct pleasure of telling my RepubliCON employer

to kiss my fucking ass. They wanted to cut my part-time hours by more than 38% (I had been with them since 8/31/2011 and was awarded Employee Of The Month twice during that time). I told them to shove it. I am now unemployed and flat broke, but it was worth it. "When unfairness becomes the rule, resistance becomes a duty." - My Contribution to the Occupy Movement

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Today I had the distinct pleasure of telling my RepubliCON employer (Original Post) man4allcats May 2012 OP
I'm sorry you're unemployed, but I would have done the same. PDJane May 2012 #1
Bless your little heart, honey. I try to roguevalley May 2012 #31
Have you thought that maybe that is what they wanted you to do in the first place? Can you collect southernyankeebelle May 2012 #2
Yes, I'm quite sure that is what they wanted. man4allcats May 2012 #3
Good for you. Your right they are a..holes for sure. My last job I was at for 9 yrs and had a real southernyankeebelle May 2012 #7
So, just quit going to work. joeglow3 May 2012 #14
Oh I never went for unemployment. I was so happy to be away from that woman. I was going to quit a southernyankeebelle May 2012 #27
Depends on your state but a 38% cut should count as just cause. MattBaggins May 2012 #15
I've been with more than one employer who used that trick to get people to quit WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #25
Generally No nykym May 2012 #9
If the employer unilaterally makes the conditions worse, though, closeupready May 2012 #12
From your own link MattBaggins May 2012 #16
Yes. Even inTennessee 12AngryBorneoWildmen May 2012 #22
Yes I live in Tn and it is a right to work state. It is terrible for employees at times. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #28
In my state, if you went from nearly full time to part-time, you could get unemployment sybylla May 2012 #18
I was wondering. You know when you work in one of those right to work states you can get screwed southernyankeebelle May 2012 #19
It's called a "constructive discharge" when they try to keep cutting. TahitiNut May 2012 #20
Thanks. We sure learn alot on DU. My boss as much as I couldn't stand her did me a favor. In the southernyankeebelle May 2012 #26
your username says it all, o wise one CatWoman May 2012 #4
I would have hung around, used the pittance they paid for gas money to find another job. . . Journeyman May 2012 #5
You did well, man4allcats May 2012 #8
I had two little girls . . . Journeyman May 2012 #13
that's the smart way, and possibly the best way. but "there comes a time when the operation HiPointDem May 2012 #11
I quit as head chef of a good sized catering company….. 12AngryBorneoWildmen May 2012 #24
as I always say...."I was looking for a job when I found this one..." ileus May 2012 #6
better to find a new job before you do that. ejpoeta May 2012 #10
If you can prove they were trying to make you quit to avoid a layoff flamin lib May 2012 #17
Bingo. (See above) It's called a "constructive discharge." TahitiNut May 2012 #21
still check on unemployment insurance. BlueToTheBone May 2012 #23
Not after he voluntarily quits nobodyspecial May 2012 #30
When looking for another job Great Caesars Ghost May 2012 #29

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
1. I'm sorry you're unemployed, but I would have done the same.
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:01 PM
May 2012

Last edited Wed May 23, 2012, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

If that's the way they reward a good employee, they deserve to be left in the lurch.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
31. Bless your little heart, honey. I try to
Mon May 21, 2012, 10:57 PM
May 2012

live by emeliano zappata's philosophy of life:

I would rather die on my feet a free man than live on my knees as a slave.

HUGS!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. Have you thought that maybe that is what they wanted you to do in the first place? Can you collect
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:07 PM
May 2012

unemployment now that you quit? They are a...holes for sure.

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
3. Yes, I'm quite sure that is what they wanted.
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:21 PM
May 2012

That occurred to me early on. So be it. I was happy to oblige. I knew full well were they up to. As for unemployment, it may be an option since I had an outstanding and on-hold claim from a previous and rather less obnoxious employer. I may soon be able to continue collecting on that claim. There was a problem (that's why it was on-hold), but that should be fixed soon if it has not already been taken care of. I only took this current (now former) job because I wanted to at least be making an effort to work while I worked on my primary job search. So much for doing the right thing. In any case, as you allude, these people are assholes.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
7. Good for you. Your right they are a..holes for sure. My last job I was at for 9 yrs and had a real
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:53 PM
May 2012

witch for a boss. No one liked her. I was one of the older employees. We had an older woman than I that was a snitcher. We had learned a new procedure. She only worked 1 or 2 days a week. So she rang something up on the register on the wrong key. I wanted to tell her but she get mad so when she had her back to me I made the correction and she turned around and asked what I was doing. So I told her the truth and we had a kid at the register that way around 19 yrs old and here she was getting upset at me in front of this kid and all I said to her was "hell" I was trying to help. Don't you know she went and opened her mouth to the assistant manager. About 1 hour later he called me in to the office and asked me about it. He asked me did I cuss at her. I said yes. Don't you know here I was a 50 yr old woman sent me home because I said "hell". Well I went out and got my purse at the desk. She was upset because I was sent home. She was something. I thought the issue was settled. Two weeks later the boss calls me in and braggs about what a good worker I was and she didn't know what she would do without me. But they need to move me to the Forrestry Services office. I looked at her and said to her you don't need to worry about me. I told her she was showing her favoritism and I was tired of it. I told her I quite and walked out never to look back. It was the best thing I ever did. Every so often I would see her and thank her for it.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
14. So, just quit going to work.
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:06 PM
May 2012

We had a lady do that when I worked for the state. They sent her resignation letters multiple times and she never signed them. After a few months, they had to "officially" fire her. Shortly thereafter, she started collecting unemployment.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
27. Oh I never went for unemployment. I was so happy to be away from that woman. I was going to quit a
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:35 PM
May 2012

a little later than I did. Our building gets closed down for a week for general cleaning of the building. That was when I was going to quit. I just did it about 3 weeks earlier. I was soooooooo happy to screw her over that way. Besides myself another 2 other young girls quit also. She didn't like that to much. We still go out once in a while and have lunch. One is a nurse now and the other is a school teacher. I am retired. We all made out just fine. Sometimes things work out for the best.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
15. Depends on your state but a 38% cut should count as just cause.
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:12 PM
May 2012

Make sure you fight for it so they can't get away with crap like that.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
25. I've been with more than one employer who used that trick to get people to quit
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:16 PM
May 2012

Usually works and saves them having to do a bunch of paperwork.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
9. Generally No
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:58 PM
May 2012

In order to receive unemployment you have to be unemployed through no fault of your own. If you quit your job you are voluntarily unemployed, and thus it is your own fault that you are unemployed, and therefore you are ineligible to receive unemployment benefits.

There are, however, situations in which you may be found eligible for unemployment even when you quit your job. These situations are rare, and the decision whether you can collect unemployment may be somewhat arbitrary - and often only decided by making an appeal, and having a a special appeal hearing.

Link: http://unemploymenthandbook.com/unemployment-articles/all-about-unemployment/180-can-you-get-unemployment-if-you-quit

Each state is different so you have to check into your states requirements.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
12. If the employer unilaterally makes the conditions worse, though,
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:02 PM
May 2012

I think there are some states where that constitutes 'constructive discharge'.

(I'm not a lawyer.)

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
16. From your own link
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:15 PM
May 2012
You might still be able to get unemployment if you quit your job because your job reduces your hours and/or your pay significantly.


38% is "significant"

sybylla

(8,526 posts)
18. In my state, if you went from nearly full time to part-time, you could get unemployment
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:45 PM
May 2012

to cover the difference.

I did it with an employer back in 1982. I was working over 32 hours per week and they cut me to 4 hours one week and 11 hours the next. I couldn't afford the cut so I applied for unemployment. Fucking boss chewed me out in front of customers and fellow employees for doing it. I didn't give a rat's ass. After that, they jacked up my hours to something like 20 or 24 - just enough so that I couldn't get unemployment - but not to where it was before.

I'm afraid, though, if you quit, it doesn't apply to you.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
19. I was wondering. You know when you work in one of those right to work states you can get screwed
Mon May 21, 2012, 05:02 PM
May 2012

pretty easily. I only walked the job at one place and I never regretted it. I ended up retiring early. I had been there long enough 9 years with one crazy woman. She was the kind that would stand around a corner to hear what you were saying. She also had a way were she could listen in on your phone calls. Everyone hated her. But every time I saw her I tell her how very happy I am. Quitting the job was the best thing for me. I never let her know different. She was a mean, nasty person and she was the type that picked on people she felt that were not worthy of her. She alway hired the cheerleaders who usually came from the more wealthier families for our snack bars. While the miniority kid or a poor kid didn't have a chance in hell of getting the job. She was just a mad hatefull woman who had been married to a wealthy man and he had some type of STD and gave it to her. So she was mad at the world.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
20. It's called a "constructive discharge" when they try to keep cutting.
Mon May 21, 2012, 05:39 PM
May 2012

Find a clueful person at the unemployment office and you'll find agreement. I (PERSONALLY) would have not problem listing the termination as INVOLUNTARY and then hash it out when the former employer tried to call it otherwise.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
26. Thanks. We sure learn alot on DU. My boss as much as I couldn't stand her did me a favor. In the
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:29 PM
May 2012

end every time I see her I think I piss her off because I'm happy and leaving was the best thing for me. She sucked enough blood out of me for 9 yrs. I never met a person like her in all my travels. Believe me I worked for many different places here in the states and overseas. This is the first state I worked in that was a right to work state. I tell everyone who doesn't have that make sure you fight it hard. Those bastards can fire you for looking at them the wrong way and for no reason.

Journeyman

(15,037 posts)
5. I would have hung around, used the pittance they paid for gas money to find another job. . .
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

and when I told them adios it would have been with no warning, as I went to my new job. If anything, I'd have forced them to fire me in hopes I could collect on their unemployment account.

But that's just me.

I have a cookie fortune that stood me in good stead when faced with similar circumstance:

"Put up with small inconveniences to gain great results."

I put up with a full ration of crap for almost two years, all while I built the clientele for my own business. And when I left, it was on my terms, and on the same morning two other "favored" employees walked out, so the satisfaction was infinitely greater. My business is still going strong, too, fourteen years and a day since I "stuck it to 'em" without getting stuck myself.

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
8. You did well,
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:53 PM
May 2012

and I applaud you. Personally though, I had reached the point where I was not backing up anymore. I have had enough, no matter what it costs. Check out my sig from the great Paul Newman movie "Hombre" which quotes John "Paul Newman" Russell. That's where I'm at. I just don't care anymore.

Journeyman

(15,037 posts)
13. I had two little girls . . .
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:03 PM
May 2012

it makes a difference at times in what a person will put up with. Not always, but in my case it kept me focused on what I truly wanted to do.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
11. that's the smart way, and possibly the best way. but "there comes a time when the operation
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:00 PM
May 2012

of the machine becomes so odious..."

if everyone picks the smart way, things just get worse.

24. I quit as head chef of a good sized catering company…..
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:12 PM
May 2012

after a shitty move by the owner, but not immediately. I waited until a period of heavy bookings and walked along with the sous chef who had been there 5 years prior to my hiring.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
17. If you can prove they were trying to make you quit to avoid a layoff
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:43 PM
May 2012

you can collect unemployment. Many employers offer a "quit or we'll fire you" hoping the employee will quit and not be eligible for unemployment. If this was a forced layoff and they were only trying to avoid a claim you can collect.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
21. Bingo. (See above) It's called a "constructive discharge."
Mon May 21, 2012, 05:41 PM
May 2012

I have little doubt they've done this before and (possibly) may have a record with the unemployment office.

 
29. When looking for another job
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:42 PM
May 2012

do some research and apply for true blue companies that are unionized without any problems with it. I worked at Costco for 15 years before I started my own business.

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