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We're getting screwed! (Original Post) Playinghardball Aug 2015 OP
This cost differential is crazy Gothmog Aug 2015 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #2
Well said! Octafish Aug 2015 #3
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #6
Raleighs dog got booted??? Blus4u Aug 2015 #33
glitter, distraction - and a flag and a cross too, or was that another bright mind? n/t Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #5
"It Can't Happen Here" (1935) by Sinclair Lewis, fictional political novel, fascism comes to appalachiablue Aug 2015 #21
It's kind of a mix between Brave New World and 1984 zeemike Aug 2015 #8
That is the way our plutocracy works. Rex Aug 2015 #4
Re: Getting Screwed eepatt Aug 2015 #7
USA! We're #1! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2015 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #10
Bingo! rhett o rick Aug 2015 #18
yep NJCher Aug 2015 #24
Indeed it does. hifiguy Aug 2015 #25
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #11
sometimes the media acknowledges this--only then to blame it on eldercare MisterP Aug 2015 #12
a good chunk of the 1 percenter's money comes from olddots Aug 2015 #13
You think that's bad? Try getting bitten by a snake. Glassunion Aug 2015 #14
people should start posting their bills Sunlei Aug 2015 #19
I recently had a $3,000+ bill for "nothing wrong". Glassunion Aug 2015 #20
+1. Glad for you but 3K?! Good people are posting the truth about 'care' USA. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #22
Yeah. I was in a bad way. Glassunion Aug 2015 #29
My total bill for sinus (day) surgery last november was $50k. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #31
Is that where they drill out your sinuses so you no longer get infections & breath better? Sunlei Aug 2015 #32
In theory. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #37
The $3949.00 strikes me as low. A LibDemAlways Aug 2015 #15
looks like the 'bed/room charge' is one of the higher profit items our healthcare Corps enjoy. Sunlei Aug 2015 #34
Time to dust off the guillotine? gregcrawford Aug 2015 #16
And the tumbrels, too. hifiguy Aug 2015 #26
even the USA Vet Specialists charge higher then human cost treatment in other countries. Sunlei Aug 2015 #17
no doubt... wildbilln864 Aug 2015 #23
It's ridiculous but the hospital/insurance co. scam TBF Aug 2015 #27
Info looks a bit dated (2011) IDemo Aug 2015 #28
medical costs are why I will retire at 70 and not 62.5 airplaneman Aug 2015 #30
This is what I'm talking about! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #35
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #36

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Well said!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:24 PM
Aug 2015

Corporate McPravda diverts the proles from seeing what's killing them.

And a hearty welcome to DU, Raleighsdog!

Response to Octafish (Reply #3)

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
21. "It Can't Happen Here" (1935) by Sinclair Lewis, fictional political novel, fascism comes to
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:41 PM
Aug 2015

the USA wrapped in a flag, maybe holding a cross.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. It's kind of a mix between Brave New World and 1984
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:44 PM
Aug 2015

We live in a dystopia world of the Sci Fi fiction of the past...it is as if they used it as a blueprint.

And Welcome to DU Raleighsdog.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. That is the way our plutocracy works.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:24 PM
Aug 2015

The most vulnerable, get shit on the worst. Whereas those that are above the law and untouchable, get treated like gods.

eepatt

(21 posts)
7. Re: Getting Screwed
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:40 PM
Aug 2015

Nobody wants to talk about it, but:

Viagra in USA--$15.00/pill

Generic from Canada--$0.65

The stuff from Canada works better, too. Perhaps the feeling that one is bypassing Big Pharma partially cures ED.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
24. yep
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:23 PM
Aug 2015

and insofar as pharmaceutical costs go, the U.S. citizen is underwriting the cost of the development of the drugs. The way the pharmaceutical companies see it is that the income is higher here, so here is where to make the money.

The rest of the world's citizens are smart enough to have a gov't negotiate, as you say in your post ("sole negotiator&quot . Our government won't do that for us, as they've been bought off by the pharmaceutical companies. We just pay our legislator's salary. The real money is in the the corporate donations, so we're mere peons in the overall scheme of things.

So not only do we finance the cost of researching the drugs, we pay more for them once they are on the market. The rest of the world benefits, and we pay.


Cher

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
29. Yeah. I was in a bad way.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:13 PM
Aug 2015

I felt dizzy, nauseous, shaking, sweaty and an overall feeling that I was dying. It was really weird. I started driving to work, then about 45 minutes after I left, I hadn't a clue where I was. It was like I was outside myself.

So I took myself to the ER. They took every fluid x-ray, and reading they could. Nothing was wrong. I felt better in a few hours.

X-Rays, urine sample, blood work, and ER visit came out to about $3k+. Thankfully work covered it.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
31. My total bill for sinus (day) surgery last november was $50k.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:54 PM
Aug 2015

Insurance allowed something like $10k. I paid about $2k.

1 hour on the table, three hours in recovery. Yikes.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. Is that where they drill out your sinuses so you no longer get infections & breath better?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:08 PM
Aug 2015

I've known people who had that 'day surgery' and their sleep apnea went away and they no longer had to use that machine, C-pap? mask.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
37. In theory.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:30 PM
Aug 2015

It definitely helped, but not a panacea.

They also did polyp and deviated septum surgery while he was all up in my grill.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
15. The $3949.00 strikes me as low. A
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:19 PM
Aug 2015

relative's recent one night stay for observation was $6500.

My daughter has a friend who will undergo heart valve replacement surgery soon. The cost is a half mil. Fortunately, he has good insurance but will still be stuck for thousands in co-pays and deductibles.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. looks like the 'bed/room charge' is one of the higher profit items our healthcare Corps enjoy.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:46 PM
Aug 2015

Not every item has the same profit revenue, but everyone needs a bed or a rooms use when they need medical care.

TBF

(32,060 posts)
27. It's ridiculous but the hospital/insurance co. scam
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:58 PM
Aug 2015

needs a chart as well. Recently I was hospitalized for over a week. Surgery et al and bill about $200K (no joke). But the first thing the insurance company and hospital do is work out "discounts". After that it's less than half. Then the insurance company looks at coverage. We are down now to where I may have to pay about 4% of the bill (when the invoices are all eventually sent) but I haven't yet requested any appeals. I have about $1000 worth of invoices that are finalized and I will likely pay next month.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
30. medical costs are why I will retire at 70 and not 62.5
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:06 PM
Aug 2015

My MRI was $2000.00. Epidural shots (one shot) with insurance is $700.00 ($13,000.00 without insurance).
-Airplane

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
35. This is what I'm talking about!
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 02:29 PM
Aug 2015
They® moved our manufacturing jobs out of the country, just because. They® simply didn't care if it hurt the American worker. The American workers cost too much, They® said.

But we are saddled with this horrible health care system because all the players are addicted to the profit inherent in the US system.

Why can't the American health care consumer say. Enough with this shit! We are going to enact single payer and deprive you of your unfair profiteering on the health and lives of the American people!
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