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Downtown merchants in Columbia, MO gerrymandered a special district that contained no residents. They wanted to ram through a tax initiative, and under the law, if there are no voters in the district, then property owners (i.e. merchants) get to make the decision.
But, wait, what? The district they engineered actually contained one voter -- a 23-year-old college student. She will be the only one who will get to vote on the proposal -- and word is that she's not too keen on it.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/local/college-student-would-be-sole-voter-in-cid-sales-tax/article_6702c44b-0243-51f8-861c-1df0b462cd92.html
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)(and a public university) she's probably pretty safe from pressure in that direction.
I have no idea if this CID is a good thing or bad, but it's a hilarious story either way...
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)The university just canceled health-insurance for graduate students -- and gave them 24 hours notice.
petronius
(26,602 posts)at least deferred the action until next year (under pressure) - pulling the plug on grad student health insurance just before school starts is a seriously seedy move. No administrator who actually thinks about students could have failed to understand the impact that would have...
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)is there a word for sad and funny at the same time??
CincyDem
(6,363 posts)pleasure derived from another's misfortune.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Response to shenmue (Reply #4)
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snooper2
(30,151 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Or if they will just try to make it impossible to count her vote.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Switch the vote and call her a liar. (Better make it illegal to use a cellphone camera in the booth first)
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)They might actually do that!
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...she could retire young and wealthy!
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)the voting (machine?). oh.. the audacity.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)So the idea was to levy a sales tax that nearby residents would have to pay, but manipulate the boundaries so no it contained no residents, which would allow only businesses to decide?
Screw that. Doesn't matter whether the tax is a great idea or a bad one. Scheming to cut the people who would be paying it out of the vote is pure slime.
Kber
(5,043 posts)Where's the "I smell bullshit" icon when you need it?
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)We also have a great state senate candidate. City council? If she's interested in hard work with very little pay ($6,000\yr) and extremely harsh criticism we can always use good council members.
I do hope that she will be active in local politics, though.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)It sounds like she'd have a lock on the voters in her district.
petronius
(26,602 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)In MO, there is a process for carving out commercial districts which can be taxed differently from the rest of the city and state. They are like islands that lie within legislative and municipal voting districts.
The business owners benefit because the money for those taxes goes towards commercial improvements. All sales tax hikes are subject to voter approval- assuming there are residents to vote. If there aren't, the business owners decide. The lobbyists and legislators tried to draw this commercial district so that there would be no residents to vote.
ooops. There is one, and her ballot will be different from the other citizens in her voting district. It looks like she is going to stand up and fight the power.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Before the 1832 reform, there were districts in the UK where absolutely no-one lived. In Old Salem for instance, there were only seven makeshift huts, which were unoccupied until three days before the election, when the land-owner brought in seven carefully selected, bought and paid-for 'voters' who would then send the owner's preferred candidate (who had a registered address in another unoccupied hut on the property) to Westminster.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)progressoid
(49,991 posts)rurallib
(62,420 posts)didn't see a voting time or if there were empty residences in that area. I have no doubt that this is another option that is or has been explored.
Hope she gets to be the only vote and she votes against the sales tax.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Too fucked up, but that is America 2015 for ya!
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)They had nothing to lose and only golden parachutes to gain when they finish their terms with a vote like this. It's the ultimate corporate welfare to be able to target small geographic areas for tax hikes that will fund "local" business improvements. What usually happens is developers come in and suck up the money to build big boxes or other chains.
Rex
(65,616 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)This is also a state with no limits on campaign contributions AND our own local Koch stepbrother..
In 2014, he donated $1 million to Republican Bev Randles' 2016 campaign for Lieutenant Governor of Missouri.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Sinquefield
Rex
(65,616 posts)We have GOT to get dirty business out of government or die trying.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Veto proof GOP majorities in both chambers and the next governor was a republican until 2007. We are in a mess, and I am not sure how we can fix it. We need a revolution! Hopefully, a start will be getting millennials elected.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I agree, we need new faces with new ideas getting elected. We already know what the GOP old guard wants - to control us all and make us all wage slaves.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)They are an extremely conservative lot. The majority of under 35 reps and senators who are getting elected in some areas (3 in mine) are a bright spot.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)I hope she has protection.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)It will be in the local newspapers.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Voting records are legally available via the county clerk. Parties make us of them when plotting strategies to court voters and donors.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Is so nobody could potentially take retribution, whether it be an employer, or just a common criminal. What is the purpose if it is only while you mark your ballot?
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Some don't give that into out, but In MO, the information is available.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I have seen what the campaigns get and they have to put in a lot of work organizing it for their use. They use those lists to determine who to spend time courting via phone, door-to-door canvasing, and fundraising. It probably saves them some time and fruitless effort in the end.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It's a great "fight the power" moment and I am thrilled to see the knockout come from a 23 yr old student.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I'm sure loyalsister will approve as well.
So, basically, she's the mayor of downtown CoMo. She can ram through any initiative she wants! loyal and I need to talk to her about creating some disability access downtown.
Blue Owl
(50,393 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)"Henderson said she doesnt want her involvement with the CID to be private. She said Gartner initially approached her in June to explain the goals of the CID and ask her to consider unregistering her vote so the property owners could make the decision. The more she researched the situation, Henderson said, things just didnt seem to be as good as they were saying to me at first.
Gartner tried to get me to unregister, and thats pretty manipulative, Henderson said. The district plan and the district border is manipulative, too.
I wouldn't blamer her if she voted against it out of spite.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)IronLionZion
(45,450 posts)and good liberals opposing tax increases! Especially on consumption (sales)
Good for this woman for standing strong. If it were me, I'd probably be open to getting bribed with free food and drinks or something.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)They have been for a "fair tax" in Mo for a very long time.
IronLionZion
(45,450 posts)How would it help the stores?
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)toilet papers, and other essentials. Sales taxes are regressive. Republicans would love to eliminate income taxes and have sales taxes be the main source of revenue.
The property owners will be okay no matter how much the stores bring in, anyway.
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)I love when the "Mad Scientist" scheme goes horribly wrong and blows up in the con-artist's faces!
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I disagree mightily with the columnist's conclusions, but it's a good presentation of the situation.
According to state law, a CID board draws boundaries and property owners in the area decide whether to ask the city to establish the district with power to enact sales taxes. If no residents live within the district boundaries, the vote to establish the sales tax is left to property owners. Property assessments already have been approved by business interests in the district. Both special taxes must be ratified by the city council.
Gartner & Co. drew their district lines very carefully to include all the interested business interests and no nearby residents. But they made a mistake, failing to exclude a lone dwelling located on the Mizzou North campus where University of Missouri student Jen Henderson lives. Henderson is a registered voter and says she is skeptical of the district. If she follows through with a no vote, the district idea is dead.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/opinion/the_tribunes_view/loop/article_d2d36e99-3954-5250-b8f4-f4a487be1e3e.html?comments=focus
If she votes this down, I hope some progressive organization gives her an award!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)toddwv
(2,830 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)mucifer
(23,548 posts)http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150226/gold-coast/what-heck-is-up-with-2nd-ward-map
The more conservative alderman won and is now in city council.