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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:27 PM Aug 2015

Wonder Woman is too Violent for schools?

http://news.yahoo.com/school-bans-childs-wonder-woman-lunchbox-083018166.html


School Bans Child’s Wonder Woman Lunchbox – Considered Too Violent



A child’s school has banned her lunchbox, because it features the comic book character Wonder Woman.

The school sent the unnamed girl home with a letter for her parents, explaining why they deem it inappropriate – which a family friend and Reddit user has posted online for the world to weigh in on.

Reddit user twines18 posted a photo of the letter sent, along with a couple of snaps of the child’s lunchbox, explaining that the school finds Wonder Woman to be a figure that represents violence.

But it’s not just this particular superhero that the school has it in for – they don’t allow any superheroes to be worn on clothing, backpacks or lunchboxes of the children.

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Really? Have done this insane?


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Wonder Woman is too Violent for schools? (Original Post) diabeticman Aug 2015 OP
She seems tall HassleCat Aug 2015 #1
This is the lunchbox they want SummerSnow Aug 2015 #2
I thought Wonder Woman was one of the good people? BlueJazz Aug 2015 #3
Well, superheroes do tend to be violent. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #4
Ace and Gary - The Ambiguously Gay Duo? Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #8
I was thinking Ambush Bug, but I checked online, and it turns out Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #10
Life is rough when your arch enemy is an argyle sock! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #13
If you're going to be a superhero, you have to beat up some bad guys along the way Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #14
I'm sure sports teams are a-ok. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #5
Well, if all superheroes are banned, then they cannot make an exception in this case. femmocrat Aug 2015 #6
I'm glad this rule wasn't in place back in the '60s Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #7
Sorry, that lunchbox is not NRA - approved. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #11
Batman is and has always been anti-gun, I just binge watched Batman: Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #18
Not always exboyfil Aug 2015 #19
He only did that a few times. Frank Cannon Aug 2015 #21
That's Something of a Myth chrisau214 Aug 2015 #23
Here you go sarisataka Aug 2015 #25
I'll bet those are some SERIOUSLY boring... Shandris Aug 2015 #9
What? There's a disagreement over what a symbol represents? Igel Aug 2015 #12
Wonder Woman doesn't represent violence meow2u3 Aug 2015 #15
Great line from Kingdom Come exboyfil Aug 2015 #20
My kids live and breath DC superheroes. Codeine Aug 2015 #16
Same here....please meet the Mistress of Magic, Zatanna... Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #28
This is zero tolerance, taken where everyone should have know it would be. beevul Aug 2015 #17
She was invented by a BDSM-activist psychologist Recursion Aug 2015 #22
and father of the lie detector reddread Aug 2015 #29
No superheroes was a rule way back when my kids were in school frazzled Aug 2015 #24
The problem is stupid one size fits all policy. Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #26
They fear a magic rope that makes you tell the truth. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #27
because censorship is as American as apple pie reddread Aug 2015 #30
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. She seems tall
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:34 PM
Aug 2015

I worked at the airport and Lynda Carter came through. She impressed me as vey tall, even though her bio says she's 5-10. A figure that represents violence? I wonder how they feel about special forces military, police officers, boxers, etc.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Well, superheroes do tend to be violent.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:37 PM
Aug 2015

They go around punching people, damaging property, etc.

Trying to think of a nonviolent mainstream superhero, and I can't off the top of my head.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. I was thinking Ambush Bug, but I checked online, and it turns out
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:45 PM
Aug 2015

he gets into fights too, I just didn't remember anything but the silliness since I haven't read comic books in so long.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
14. If you're going to be a superhero, you have to beat up some bad guys along the way
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:56 PM
Aug 2015

Even Super Chicken occasionally beat up a bad guy.

I think Diaperman of The Mighty Heroes was pretty non-violent, though.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
6. Well, if all superheroes are banned, then they cannot make an exception in this case.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:39 PM
Aug 2015

Funny.... one of my buildings actually used "Superheroes" for their annual theme a few years ago. I don't understand anything anymore.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
11. Sorry, that lunchbox is not NRA - approved.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:47 PM
Aug 2015

Batman needs a gun, since only a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, after all.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
18. Batman is and has always been anti-gun, I just binge watched Batman:
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:23 PM
Aug 2015

The Animated Series, along with most of the rest of the DCAU. He refuses to carry guns or use them, well, mostly.

http://toybox.io9.com/7-times-batman-has-bent-his-no-guns-rule-1634040693

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
21. He only did that a few times.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:45 PM
Aug 2015

And with a few exceptions, he's been pretty much anti-gun and anti-killing otherwise for more than 75 years.

chrisau214

(235 posts)
23. That's Something of a Myth
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:01 AM
Aug 2015

In roughly the first year of Batman stories from 1939-1940 there is a single story in which Batman is seen to actually be carrying a gun.

He doesn't use that gun to shoot people. He uses it to shoot a 'death ray' machine. Most of the time when Batman is seen with a gun in hand during that first year or so of stories it is because he has picked up a gun that is laying around or has been dropped by a criminal.

The following is a list of Batman's gun usage from the early days;

Detective Comics #29 - The only time Batman is seen to threaten anyone with a gun. During the course of the story a thug drops a gun that Batman then picks up. He then demands information from the other gathered baddies.

Detective Comics #32 - Batman is seen using a gun in the final panels of the story from 'Detective Comics' #32. He uses this gun holding silver bullets specifically to kill a pair of vampires because, apparently, he was confused and thought they were werewolves. At no other point in the story is Batman seen with a gun.

Detective Comics #33 - This issue features the only time that Batman is seen with a gun as part of his uniform. The holstered gun is seen on the cover and in the story within the comic. Batman uses the gun to shoot and destroy a 'death ray' machine.

Detective Comics #35 - This is a weird one. This issue features the infamous splash page of Batman brandishing a smoking gun. The reason it is weird is because this splash page has nothing to do with the story at all and Batman isn't seen with a gun at any point in the story. So in essence the splash page is basically sort of a poster unrelated to anything.

Detective Comics #36 - In this story Batman picks up a gun that was dropped by a criminal. He fires the gun into the air in order to attract the attention of the police.

Batman #1 - The straw that broke the camel's back. While we don't see Batman with a handgun of any kind in this issue we do see the infamous incident of Batman firing a machine gun from his plane. He fires the machine gun at a truck driven by a couple of thugs who are transporting one of Hugo Strange's monster men. After being hit by the deluge of bullets the truck crashes into a tree.

As far as killing goes that is a bit more accurate but even that is usually overstated. This is a list of Batman's 'kills' from the early days;

- Issue #
- (Was there a death somehow caused by Batman)Yes, Probable, Unknown
- Cause
- Batman's Reaction if any.


- Detective Comics #27
- Yes
- Thug falls into acid tank after being punched by Batman
- Fitting end for his kind

- Detective #28
- Probable
- Thug running toward Batman is thrown off of roof.
- No reaction

- Detective #30
- Probable
- Batman snaps neck of thug
- No reaction

Detective #32
- Yes
- Shoots two vampires with silver bullets
- Never again will you harm any mortal being.

Detective #33
- Probable
- Causes thugs plane to crash
- No reaction

Detective #34
- Probable
- Struggle with thug causes car crash
- No reaction

Detective #35
- Probable
- Thug falls onto another thugs sword
- No reaction

- Yes
- Thug falls from window after being punched
- No reaction

Detective # 37
- Yes
- Thug stumbles into knife after being punched
- Better him than thousands of others

Detective #38 (THIS PROBABLE DEATH WAS CAUSED BY ROBIN)
- Probable
- Thug kicked off of in construction building by Robin
- No reaction

Detective #39
- Unknown
- Batman and thug tumble off of roof with Batman landing on the thug
- No reaction

- Yes
- Batman pushes large statue onto group of at least four thugs.
- No reaction

Batman #1
- Yes
- Batman uses Batplane machine gun to shoot speeding truck killing thugs
- Much as I hate to take human life I'm afraid this time it's necessary.

- Yes
- Batman hangs zombie like monster from rope dangling from Batplane
- He's probably better off this way.

- Yes - Zombie like monster falls to his death after being gassed by Batman - There goes the last of the monsters.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
9. I'll bet those are some SERIOUSLY boring...
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:44 PM
Aug 2015

...history books, what with having almost no pictures in them whatsoever!

"And this is when Barney crossed the Delaware to host a cookout with the British!"

Igel

(35,317 posts)
12. What? There's a disagreement over what a symbol represents?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:48 PM
Aug 2015

The school says the symbol represents violence.

How dare somebody disagree with somebody's interpretation of a symbol. It has an intrinsic meaning, and only one intrinsic meaning: If one person finds it offensive because it represents violence, then obviously only the violent could find it non-offensive, whatever they mistakenly think. To even think of defending it is to condemn yourself as violent and atavistic. The greater the attempts at justification, the more correct the judgment of "violent" must be.

Those violent folk need some educating as to the symbol's real meaning, I think.



Now, doesn't that just sound like stupidity incarnate? Yet the same reasoning elsewhere is praised as the truest and purest form of wisdom and enlightenment, and to suggest otherwise is to be vilified and condemned--nay, t'is to be pilloried and banned.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
15. Wonder Woman doesn't represent violence
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:04 PM
Aug 2015

Wonder Woman represents female empowerment, which pisses off the batshit crazy Christianists. They want their women to be doormats, house slaves, and punching bags all rolled into one, and Wonder Woman defies their twisted, Satanic version of counterfeit Christianity.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
20. Great line from Kingdom Come
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:38 PM
Aug 2015

Superman is questioning Wonder Woman about sharpening her sword. Her response, "Clark we don't all have heat vision."

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
16. My kids live and breath DC superheroes.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:09 PM
Aug 2015

Thankfully their school embraces superheroes and doesn't have any stupid policies like this.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
28. Same here....please meet the Mistress of Magic, Zatanna...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:01 AM
Aug 2015


I also have an entire bookshelf dedicated to Wonder Woman!
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
17. This is zero tolerance, taken where everyone should have know it would be.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:12 PM
Aug 2015

Zero tolerance gone mad.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. She was invented by a BDSM-activist psychologist
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:51 PM
Aug 2015
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/origin-story-wonder-woman-180952710/?no-ist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston

"The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound... Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society... Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element."

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
24. No superheroes was a rule way back when my kids were in school
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:42 AM
Aug 2015

beginning around 1986. Since my kids were never into that stuff, it wasn't a problem for us. But I can see it. You can't start drawing lines: well, Wonder Woman's ok but GI Joe, too violent. Just tell kids to leave the superheroes at home. No biggie. They can survive a few hours learning math and science and reading without having to hold a Spiderman doll.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
26. The problem is stupid one size fits all policy.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:36 AM
Aug 2015

Kids have been suspended because they brought in a cupcake with army men on it, and that violated their zero tolence policy on guns.

Wonderwoman is not the problem, school administrators are.

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