Beethoven was a Democrat. Goethe knew his ''Place.''

[Octafish]

Goethe’s social attitudes, like his musical tastes, were shaped in a more formal age. For Beethoven, 21 years his junior, the only true aristocrats were artists. In the mythology, his disillusionment was clinched by Goethe’s behaviour when they encountered royalty in the street, as reported 20 years later by Bettina: "Beethoven said to Goethe: 'keep walking as you have until now, holding my arm, they must make way for us, not the other way around. Goethe thought differently; he drew his hand, took off his hat and stepped aside, while Beethoven, hands in pockets, went right through the dukes and their cortege... They drew aside to make way for him, saluting him in friendly fashion. Waiting for Goethe who had let the dukes pass, Beethoven told him: “I have waited for you because I respect you and I admire your work, but you have shown too much esteem to those people.”’

SOURCE: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/features/focus/a-meeting-of-genius-beethoven-and-goethe-july-1812?pmtx=most-popular&utm_expid=32540977-5.-DEFmKXoQdmXwfDwHzJRUQ.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

The composer Luigi Cherubini compared Beethoven to an "unlicked bear cub.'

"Like to a chaos, or an unlicked bear-whelp,
That carries no impression like the dam."

— Shakespeare:3 Henry VI, act iii. sc. 2 (1595)

Reading about Beethoven's measure of the aristocrats makes me glad for my politics today. Lots of voices, all free to speak their mind and each equal under the law, working toward the goal of making this life better for ALL. That is the essence of Democratic politics.

[dhill926]

1. yep...

All men are brothers....

[Octafish]

8. A revolutionary idea.

“Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité” scared the heck out of the royals and aristos.

"What you are, you are by accident of birth; what I am, I am by myself. There are and will be a thousand princes; there is only one Beethoven." -- Ludwig van Beethoven

I'd extend that thought to the same goes for every single human being: None are worth more -- or less -- than any other under the law of the land.

[MisterP]

2. here's what they mean with the bear cubs

https://www.abdn.ac.uk/bestiary/translat/15r.hti

though really I think both would be libs in their own unique, weird way in 2015: 1800s politics are pretty damn unrecognizable to us today; Goethe even had a proto-hippie sort of science he lent his name to; no room for slack-jawed fundie permavirgins here!

[Octafish]

9. ''The bears of Numidia stand out from other bears--''

The idea that the mother bear is responsible for shaping the newborn cub is fascinating. The analogies for creative and other people -- especially Democrats --are many.

Ich glaube die Welt des Göthe und Lucy Liu.

https://twitter.com/LucyLiu/status/637014231980883969/photo/1

And, looking back, it may be I should have said Göthe is a Republican of the Teddy Roosevelt persuasion.

"The human being himself, to the extent that he makes sound use of his senses, is the most exact physical apparatus that can exist."

Superior to the "Heh heh heh" of what passes for leadership since Nov. 22, 1963.

[Art_from_Ark]

3. One of Beethoven's more illustrious quotes:

„Es gibt viele Könige auf der Welt, aber nur einen Beethoven."

"There are many kings in the world, but there is only one Beethoven."

[Blue Owl]

4. The GOP's Ode to Misery

n/t

[msongs]

5. celebrity privilege nt

[truebluegreen]

6. Immanuel Kant was a real piss ant

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OT I know but it just struck a chord. So to speak. Sorry!

[eppur_se_muova]

7. Some people get it ...