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Omaha Steve

(99,656 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:06 PM Aug 2015

TWO King County deputies fired after body camera worn by bus driver catches them in a huge lie!

Last edited Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1)


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/26/1415635/-Two-Seattle-police-officers-fired-after-body-camera-worn-by-bus-driver-catches-them-in-a-huge-lie?detail=email




Maybe we all need to be wearing body cameras



On November 14, 2014, Kelvin Kirkpatrick, an African-American Metro bus driver with over 20 years of experience in Seattle, requested that sheriff's officers remove sleeping homeless men from his bus, per company policy. The officers weren't helpful and even lied to Kirkpatrick about why they weren't being helpful. He got back on his bus and got back to work.

Little did he know that two of the officers involved would flat out lie about the entire encounter in a report that they completed, stating that he dropped f-bombs and berated them. The thing is, that never happened—and a body camera, worn by the bus driver himself, captured the entire ordeal as you can see below the fold.

FULL story at link.



Published on Aug 25, 2015
King County Sheriff John Urquhart has fired a second deputy over an incident in which a bus driver produced a video recorded on his personal body camera to refute allegations he used a profanity during an argument over bus security.

The video showed no profanity was used during the Nov. 14 argument between the King County Metro Transit driver, Kelvin Kirkpatrick, and the two deputies.

Urquhart sent a termination letter last week to Sgt. Lou Caballero, citing the video captured by Kirkpatrick as proof of misconduct that had cast the Sheriff’s Office in a “negative light” and undermined public trust.

Caballero’s firing was effective Aug. 20. Urquhart’s letter to Caballero was released to The Seattle Times on Monday under a public-disclosure request.

[/*][/list]Earlier this month, Urquhart fired deputy Amy Shoblom, who had alleged she witnessed the driver using the profanity.

Urquhart upheld recommendations to terminate Caballero, 50, and Shoblom, 34, concurring with internal findings that Shoblom and Caballero engaged in dishonesty and that Caballero also retaliated against Kirkpatrick.

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TWO King County deputies fired after body camera worn by bus driver catches them in a huge lie! (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2015 OP
Irony; Little Brother is watching "Big" brother now with cameras everywhere uponit7771 Aug 2015 #1
I have a friend who refuses to serve on a jury nichomachus Aug 2015 #2
I used to have a supervisor who was a cop at his previous job. He would Skeeter Barnes Aug 2015 #3
I used to work with a guy who worked part time as a cop. Mainly so he could carry a gun. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2015 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #4
Cop apologist says...don't care, cops are great and never do bad! Rex Aug 2015 #5
It's a dangerous job . . . confronting . . . bus drivers . . . awe, never mind. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #8
Sure! Catching dangerous people selling cigs on a corner. Kids going to the local swimming hole. Rex Aug 2015 #10
"Don't lie for the other guy" should be about more than gun sales. N/t beevul Aug 2015 #6
We need protection from the people who are supposed to protect us. lpbk2713 Aug 2015 #7
Bravo, Seattle! I hope your courageous action catches on. camelfan Aug 2015 #9
We got a new Chief of Police after the Feds stepped in Matariki Aug 2015 #12
see my post below. #14 Johnyawl Aug 2015 #15
Ah. Thanks for clarifying that Matariki Aug 2015 #16
O'Toole has her work cut out for her. Johnyawl Aug 2015 #22
Reason #! LEO hate cameras. Ikonoklast Aug 2015 #11
Not related to police, but I have a son who SheilaT Aug 2015 #13
If you look at YouTube with any regularity, it seems most Russians have them! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #19
I've seen some of it. SheilaT Aug 2015 #23
Yes it was! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #24
My impression from looking at YouTube dashcam videos from Russia Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #29
No kidding! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #30
Another common theme in those videos is Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #31
Or turn signals.... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #32
And then there are the ones who think Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #33
The title is all wrong.... Johnyawl Aug 2015 #14
Title now fixed Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #17
Thanks Steve! Johnyawl Aug 2015 #18
fuck tha police.. frylock Aug 2015 #20
I say it's past time for Body Cameras as FASHION statements!!! MADem Aug 2015 #21
An old lawyer friend of mine used to day that only two people lie in court -- criminals and cops. demosincebirth Aug 2015 #25
I just don't know about the cops HassleCat Aug 2015 #26
cameras are not a cop's friend Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #27
Eyeglass body cams cost $14.50 on big A Dan de Lyons Aug 2015 #34
I fail to see how even if the driver used profanity it would be any excuse. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #35
have to wonder how many cops have lied about things big or small WI_DEM Aug 2015 #36
Becasue apparently you can be too smart to be a cop One_Life_To_Give Aug 2015 #37

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
2. I have a friend who refuses to serve on a jury
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:22 PM
Aug 2015

telling the judge that the police routinely lie -- and that he couldn't vote to convict someone based on police testimony.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
3. I used to have a supervisor who was a cop at his previous job. He would
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:29 PM
Aug 2015

lie about *everything*. Didn't matter what it was, shit that didn't amount to anything, he'd lie about it. He was known for it among everybody that worked there.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
28. I used to work with a guy who worked part time as a cop. Mainly so he could carry a gun.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:13 PM
Aug 2015

He used to brag about lying on reports - "I have the power of the pen. Whatever I write down is gospel"

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Cop apologist says...don't care, cops are great and never do bad!
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:02 PM
Aug 2015

Just getting that out there before they show up and 'correct' why the bus driver is wrong and the cops are right.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Sure! Catching dangerous people selling cigs on a corner. Kids going to the local swimming hole.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:16 PM
Aug 2015

Kids playing with toy guns! Gotta be careful, that bus driver could very well plan on talking to the cops! Talking! Cops hate that.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
16. Ah. Thanks for clarifying that
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:32 PM
Aug 2015

I didn't read the story as closely as I could have. I was looking for Kathleen O'Toole's name in the article. I'm curious how a she's going to do cleaning up the rather ingrained police culture here.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
22. O'Toole has her work cut out for her.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:46 PM
Aug 2015

The SPD rank and file does not like the Federal Mandates, they don't want civilian oversight and they're doing everything possible to delay, sabotage and derail reform. I don't think Mayor Murray is being enough of a hardass about dealing with them. It seems to me he has his sights set on becoming the first openly gay governor (which he has a shot at), and he's trying too hard not to offend anybody.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
13. Not related to police, but I have a son who
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:29 PM
Aug 2015

makes his living delivering pizza. A year or so ago he got a dashboard camera because of all the crazy pedestrians and bicyclists. Somewhat of a different issue, but maybe more of us should have one.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
19. If you look at YouTube with any regularity, it seems most Russians have them!
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:40 PM
Aug 2015

The amount of in-car YouTube footage from Russia is staggering.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
23. I've seen some of it.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:52 PM
Aug 2015

All that in car footage was incredibly valuable in tracking that meteor over Russia nearly three years ago.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
24. Yes it was!
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:58 PM
Aug 2015

Fact is, when an event like that happens in the US or Canada, it is mostly cop car cameras that do all the recording.

It's my understanding that the reason so many Russians have cameras in their cars is because of the crappy car insurance industry in their countries and bullshit ways of getting paid to fix your car if someone else fucks it up.

Not to mention virtually anyone can get a license to drive, regardless of competency.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
29. My impression from looking at YouTube dashcam videos from Russia
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:21 AM
Aug 2015

is that Russia has some of the craziest drivers in the world

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
32. Or turn signals....
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:48 AM
Aug 2015

or making a left from the left lane!

I wonder if they get any training at all, sometimes. Don't bother making sure the road is clear, just pull out!

They are kinda fun to watch.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
33. And then there are the ones who think
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:56 AM
Aug 2015

"Let's do some serious drifting on this busy expressway!"

or

"I've just got to pass this line of 20 slowpokes on this icy, narrow road!"

or

"Hey, you *bleep*! I'll be *bleeped* if I let you merge into traffic!"

or

"Get out of that crosswalk, you *bleeping* pedestrian!"

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
14. The title is all wrong....
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:29 PM
Aug 2015

...and I know that is the fault of DailyKos, NOT Omaha Steve.

This wasn't SPD firing two Seattle Policeman, this was the King County Sheriff firing two of the King County Deputies. (For those that don't know, Seattle is in King County)

This is a REALLY big difference as the SPD is dragging their feet in complying with the Federal Reforms being forced on them, and are doing everything they can to prevent any real "civilian" oversight.

Over at the King County Sheriff's office we have a completely different situation. Sheriff John Urquhart has been hardass about dealing with bad cops, getting rid of deputies that have a history of violence and dishonesty.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
18. Thanks Steve!
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:39 PM
Aug 2015
Sheriff John Urquhart Deserves all the recognition he can get. He has pretty much cleaned out the culture of arrogance and violence that Dave Reichert left there when he went to congress.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. I say it's past time for Body Cameras as FASHION statements!!!
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:42 PM
Aug 2015

Body camera hats, body camera ties, body camera necklaces, body camera pocket squares, body camera suit buttons, body cameras that cops can't see them and modify their behavior.

Seattle, huh? That "liberal bastion...?"

Yeah, whatever....

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
26. I just don't know about the cops
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:58 PM
Aug 2015

They wouldn't even help a fellow public servant. What's it going to take to make police officers recognize they're supposed to help their fellow citizens?

Dan de Lyons

(52 posts)
34. Eyeglass body cams cost $14.50 on big A
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:05 PM
Aug 2015

The bus driver was wearing an eyeglass body cam. It records for 80 minutes. $14.50 on Amaz, marked down from $65. Four left after I got mine. There's also a 1" square cam for $10.

Police should be warned and be ready to respond. In nice polite tones, dulcet, dare we say.


Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
35. I fail to see how even if the driver used profanity it would be any excuse.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:28 PM
Aug 2015

Especially in light of the fact the the officers use it all the time and are encouraged to so.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
36. have to wonder how many cops have lied about things big or small
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:28 PM
Aug 2015

over the years. Given all the things we are finding out these days I'd say it is not a pretty picture.

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