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Squinch

(50,950 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:25 PM Aug 2015

All this hysteria over Trump popularity is over support by 11% of voters?? Am I missing something?

Quinnipiac has 28% of registered Republicans supporting Trump as of today:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-jeb-bush-poll-quinnipiac/index.html

And registered Republicans make up about 39% of the electorate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_U.S._states

28% of 39% = 10.92%

Eleven percent rates this kind of hysterical coverage?

For comparison, Quinnipiac has Hillary at 45% of Dems, which are 43% of the population, which translates to being supported by 20% of the population, almost twice the support that Trump has. It has Bernie at 22% of Dems, which translates to almost 10% of the population, so he's TIED with Trump considering the margin of error.

SO what the hell is the point of all this wall to wall coverage of Trump's popularity?????

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All this hysteria over Trump popularity is over support by 11% of voters?? Am I missing something? (Original Post) Squinch Aug 2015 OP
Ratings Egnever Aug 2015 #1
And the newspaper and the computer, and stay off the bus! It's really pissing me off! Squinch Aug 2015 #3
LOL madokie Aug 2015 #7
Same here, I'm sick of All Trump, All the Time Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #18
Eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww...... Squinch Aug 2015 #38
yep. turn off TV underthematrix Aug 2015 #2
Good job roscoeroscoe Aug 2015 #4
Hate directed at OTHERS, sells. Policy proposals that harm the 1%, not so much. n/t pampango Aug 2015 #5
Exactly! All of these polls suck, and for MSM it means $$$$$'s. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #6
Thanks for that TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #8
I am with you about the shootings. Hang in there. Squinch Aug 2015 #9
That 11% will make him the nominee leftynyc Aug 2015 #10
Yep. It's not even 11% anymore, latest poll I saw said 40% of Republican electorate. stevenleser Aug 2015 #14
I'm not really worried leftynyc Aug 2015 #16
I can believe what you are saying about dirt Maeve Aug 2015 #20
Why waste leftynyc Aug 2015 #21
You're assuming that the easily duped undecideds won't fall for his populist bs. Oneironaut Aug 2015 #11
I suppose you are right and we shouldn't put anything past the electorate that gave us 8 years of W. Squinch Aug 2015 #30
A handy visual aid Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #12
I'm kind of waiting for his "999" plan. Though that may be giving him too much credit. Squinch Aug 2015 #31
Here on the good old DU, I have seen dozens of threads about him daily. I can not figure out why. Tipperary Aug 2015 #13
It's about the spectacle Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #15
Well, look at that clown car they have Tsiyu Aug 2015 #40
Sick of "All Trump, All the Time" Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #17
THAT'S the worst part. THEY should be pointing out that his support is no greater than Bernie's. Squinch Aug 2015 #32
The nominated Rethug has about a 50/50 chance in the general, no matter who s/he is. pnwmom Aug 2015 #19
Sensationalist media hype. moondust Aug 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #23
I think people think he's kind of exciting. sibelian Aug 2015 #24
Corporate News reports on their love for corporate demigog. Rex Aug 2015 #25
he's quite clever at manipulating the media to garner attention for himself. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #26
Yes, but it's quite transparent. His plan just seems to be to have outrageous fights with anyone Squinch Aug 2015 #33
The point is that one of two major political parties Warpy Aug 2015 #27
+1000 n/t markpkessinger Aug 2015 #28
But it isn't really a consensus. He has 28% of Republican primary voters. He's really not that close Squinch Aug 2015 #35
Here is why Trump worries me . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #29
Trump talks like a dictator and too many like that kind of talk... steve2470 Aug 2015 #34
A friend who I thought was intelligent recently told me she was considering him. Squinch Aug 2015 #36
The media loves and thrives on controversy. MicaelS Aug 2015 #37
SSSHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! denbot Aug 2015 #39
I'd call it 11% of primary voters.... nt truebluegreen Aug 2015 #41
For me, it's the 'what if' factor. grntuscarora Aug 2015 #42
I completely get what you are saying. The sad thing is that all of the other Republican candidates Squinch Aug 2015 #43

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
18. Same here, I'm sick of All Trump, All the Time
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:55 PM
Aug 2015

It's everywhere.

"Women will be taken care of"-don't want to be taken care of by him.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
8. Thanks for that
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:54 PM
Aug 2015

Between the All Trump All the Time coverage, I was getting a little depressed. The thought of going into retirement with Trump in the WH is just too much to bear. Thanks for giving it some perspective.

I'm still depressed about all the shootings the last few months though. There doesn't seem to be any cure for that in sight.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
9. I am with you about the shootings. Hang in there.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:21 PM
Aug 2015

It's easy to feel helpless in the face of Americans' total opposition to common sense on the gun issue.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. That 11% will make him the nominee
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:23 PM
Aug 2015

There is nobody in the rest of the field that has the balls to take him on. That's why you need to pay attention. He's going to be the nominee.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
14. Yep. It's not even 11% anymore, latest poll I saw said 40% of Republican electorate.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:34 PM
Aug 2015

And we shouldn't forget that a huge amount of the other 60% have Trump as their second choice.

I think he is going to be the nominee. And whoever we nominate better be ready for him. I've been thinking a lot about what facing him would be like. It would not be easy.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. I'm not really worried
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:40 PM
Aug 2015

NYers have been watching the donald for decades - you can't believe the dirt there is on him that will stay safely tucked away until it's too late for him not to be the nominee. You can start with the fact that New Yorkers - the people that know him best - wont give him the time of day in an election.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
20. I can believe what you are saying about dirt
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:19 PM
Aug 2015

I've assumed that his enemies are just keeping their powder dry until he's over-inflated enough that the resulting explosion will be spectacular.

Oneironaut

(5,500 posts)
11. You're assuming that the easily duped undecideds won't fall for his populist bs.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:25 PM
Aug 2015

He's probably going to fail, but I wouldn't put anything past the American populace these days.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
30. I suppose you are right and we shouldn't put anything past the electorate that gave us 8 years of W.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:50 PM
Aug 2015

Still. Eleven percent...

Senator Tankerbell

(316 posts)
15. It's about the spectacle
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:40 PM
Aug 2015

A lot of people find Trump entertaining even if they don't like him and would never vote for him. His whole persona is just absurd.

It is true however, that he is currently dominating the GOP. That is an interesting story. Most people didn't expect that. The fact that Hillary is in the lead isn't really news and was expected.

It's certainly true that Clinton has significantly more supporters at this point, but if you look at their approval vs disapproval numbers among all registered voters, they are pretty similar (39-51 for Clinton vs 36-54 for Trump) and both have 92% name recognition. Since there are so many republicans in the race, you have to think about who people's second or third choices would be.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us08272015_Ueg38d.pdf

That said, I do agree, the media is overly obsessed with Trump.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
40. Well, look at that clown car they have
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:56 PM
Aug 2015

full of buffoons.

Next to them, Looney Toons Trump seems nearly normal.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
32. THAT'S the worst part. THEY should be pointing out that his support is no greater than Bernie's.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:53 PM
Aug 2015

But NOOOOOOOO.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
19. The nominated Rethug has about a 50/50 chance in the general, no matter who s/he is.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:57 PM
Aug 2015

And right now the Donald is the highest polling Rethug.

moondust

(19,988 posts)
22. Sensationalist media hype.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:52 PM
Aug 2015

Watching and commenting on TheRump is a lot easier than working hours and hours to put together a TV show of substance covering real issues. May get better ratings, too! Winning!!!!

Response to Squinch (Original post)

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
24. I think people think he's kind of exciting.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:23 PM
Aug 2015

He's so freaky and out there.

I don't think anyone genuinely takes him anywhere near as seriously as he does himself.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
26. he's quite clever at manipulating the media to garner attention for himself.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:37 PM
Aug 2015

and Democrats, and the media, have a strong interest in seeing him continue to dominate the Republican party

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
33. Yes, but it's quite transparent. His plan just seems to be to have outrageous fights with anyone
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:54 PM
Aug 2015

who crosses his path who is not an Anglo man.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
27. The point is that one of two major political parties
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:49 PM
Aug 2015

is getting close to a consensus that this bloated plutocrat blowhard is going to be their candidate in 2016, that he's a TV star with a recognizable name and billions at his command, and that for those reasons, he's going to be hard to beat because there are a lot of morons in this country who will be dazzled by all of the above.

A dull man who was a faithful servant of the plutocracy would be easy to beat unless the Democratic Party insiders insist on our equivalent of the same.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
35. But it isn't really a consensus. He has 28% of Republican primary voters. He's really not that close
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:57 PM
Aug 2015

As everyone says, the issue is who is the second choice of the other 72% of Republican primary voters.

Which does still leave room for worry, but it's worry on the level of how we worried that Herman Cain would win last time around.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
29. Here is why Trump worries me . . .
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:58 PM
Aug 2015

Today I read a comment (can't remember where, unfortunately) by an 87-year-old man who claimed to be a Democrat. He wrote: "I'm a Democrat. I'll vote for Trump. Sure, I think he's an idiot, but at least he'll get something done."

Now, I realize one shouldn't draw conclusions based on a single anecdotal incident. But I think there are a lot of people out there who are taken in by Trump's bullshit.

Beyond that, I have never understood the mindset that believes that any action at all is better than no action.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
34. Trump talks like a dictator and too many like that kind of talk...
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:54 PM
Aug 2015

Democracy is usually slow and messy and involves compromises. Trump would never admit to all that.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
36. A friend who I thought was intelligent recently told me she was considering him.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:03 PM
Aug 2015

That really stopped me cold.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
37. The media loves and thrives on controversy.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:04 PM
Aug 2015

Something minor happens, they blow it into a major story. If they can't find it, they manufacture it for ratings.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
42. For me, it's the 'what if' factor.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:07 PM
Aug 2015

I read the coverage and get scared thinking 'what if' this incredible imbecile bamboozles his way into the presidency? Sure, it's unlikely. I still have faith in the bulk of the American electorate. But, jeebuz, what if???
The coverage of this idiot just galvanizes me into supporting the D alternative, whoever that may turn out to be.
So give me the Trump coverage. It makes me work, and donate, more.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
43. I completely get what you are saying. The sad thing is that all of the other Republican candidates
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:16 AM
Aug 2015

scare me just as much. There isn't one that would be anything other than a disaster. So the inescapable fact is that the Republican nominee is going to be some lunatic or another.

And yes, I agree. I am not one of those who says that if my primary candidate loses the primary I'll sit home and mope and hand the country over to some fascist. Our worst candidate is 100 times better than their best. I'll be proudly voting for the Democrat no matter who it is.

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