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niyad

(113,323 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:41 AM Aug 2015

Teen’s Collarbones Launch Controversy Over Dress Code

Teen’s Collarbones Launch Controversy Over Dress Code

Stephanie Hughes, a student at Woodford County High School in Kentucky, found herself in the principal’s office on the very first day of school this year. Her crime? Exposing her collarbones.



Stephanie’s mother, Stacie Dunn, arrived at the school to to find “a group of female students standing in the office due to being out of dress code also,” Dunn wrote on Facebook on August 13. “Parents are being called away from their important jobs and students are missing important class time because they are showing their collarbones!" Even after Dunn found her daughter a scarf to wear, she was still sent home. But Dunn’s condemnation of the dress code struck a chord: her original Facebook post has now been shared nearly 50,000 times. (The offending outfit is pictured at left.)

. . . . .

But women students at Woodford say these requirements are subjectively and sporadically enforced. Maggie Sunseri, a Woodford student, released a 33-minute documentary on YouTube in March focusing on the 10-year-old dress code. In the video, titled, Shame: A Documentary on School Dress Code, Sunseri interviews numerous women students, many of whom had been called out by authority figures for “inappropriate” attire.



“My boyfriend, he wore a pair of his soccer shorts to school,” explains one woman in the documentary. “Soccer shorts come above your knee. And it was completely fine for him. I wore the exact same pair—he gave them to me—I wore the exact same pair and they told me not to wear it again, because they could see my knees. It was like a warning.”
. . . . .

“It sends the message to boys that it’s all girls’ fault,” remarks another student in the documentary. “It wasn’t [the boys’] fault that they were staring or got distracted. It was the girls’ fault.”

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http://msmagazine.com/blog/2015/08/27/teens-collarbones-launch-controversy-over-dress-code/

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Teen’s Collarbones Launch Controversy Over Dress Code (Original Post) niyad Aug 2015 OP
Dress codes are reasonable. Their dress code is reasonable. Taitertots Aug 2015 #1
of course not. sexism, and holding women responsible for men's behaviour, is a non-issue. niyad Aug 2015 #3
Are dress codes reasonable? Yes Taitertots Aug 2015 #5
perhaps you should actually read the article, and watch the video, to learn about the issues. niyad Aug 2015 #8
I read the actual dress code Taitertots Aug 2015 #9
again, try reading the article, and watching the video. niyad Aug 2015 #10
No. I'm not wasting my time. Taitertots Aug 2015 #14
I did. and I find it absurd. niyad Aug 2015 #16
Ok, point to the specific portion of the text that is unreasonable Taitertots Aug 2015 #20
That's insane damnedifIknow Aug 2015 #2
when I was in high school (yes, the dark ages!) the dress code mandated that females could niyad Aug 2015 #4
Go read the school's dress code policy Taitertots Aug 2015 #6
Come on damnedifIknow Aug 2015 #7
Did you read it? I read it the last time someone posted this Taitertots Aug 2015 #12
Selectively-enforced policies are by their own tacit demonstration illegitimate. Chan790 Aug 2015 #11
damn girl, put some gloves on your hands. you are making it impossible for me to stop Takket Aug 2015 #21
My niece is a HS senior and got sent home for a sweater she's worn 3x to school before riderinthestorm Aug 2015 #13
thank you. it is amazing how some simply refuse to see what is going on with these situations, niyad Aug 2015 #17
That school's dress code was interesting to read. MineralMan Aug 2015 #15
you make several excellent points. niyad Aug 2015 #18
When my high school began allowing slacks for girls csziggy Aug 2015 #19
I've always been opposed to letting women have collarbones! If we let them have collarbones, struggle4progress Aug 2015 #22
Looks like an appropriate outfit for a casual Friday at a typical workplace LittleBlue Aug 2015 #23
not to mention, defending that bizarreness. niyad Aug 2015 #24
 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
1. Dress codes are reasonable. Their dress code is reasonable.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

She intentionally violated the dress code. Nothing or substance in the story.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
5. Are dress codes reasonable? Yes
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:01 PM
Aug 2015

Is this dress code reasonable? Yes
What exactly is the issue with the story?

niyad

(113,323 posts)
4. when I was in high school (yes, the dark ages!) the dress code mandated that females could
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:00 PM
Aug 2015

wear neither mini skirts nor granny dresses. I asked the board if they were high, or just clueless.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
11. Selectively-enforced policies are by their own tacit demonstration illegitimate.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:10 PM
Aug 2015

So, no I do not consider this dress code to be reasonable or enforceable.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
21. damn girl, put some gloves on your hands. you are making it impossible for me to stop
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:26 PM
Aug 2015

thinking about sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(if not obvious)

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
13. My niece is a HS senior and got sent home for a sweater she's worn 3x to school before
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:15 PM
Aug 2015

My sister even brought FB pictures showing my niece in the sweater at school last year.

Its a long sleeve sweater that has lace insets in the arms - that was the problem for this teacher. Lace insets on the arms.

The enforcement of the dress code is ridiculously uneven and shaming. The sweater was completely modest. Boys need to be taught how to act appropriately around girls/women - stop shaming the girls!

K&R niyad

niyad

(113,323 posts)
17. thank you. it is amazing how some simply refuse to see what is going on with these situations,
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015

and the absurdity of the selective enforcement.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. That school's dress code was interesting to read.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:36 PM
Aug 2015

It required "crew neck shirts" or button-up style shirts with all but the top button fastened. It had nothing whatever to say about underwear, though. So, I suppose a girl could attend school in a white crew-neck T-shirt a size too small, worn without a bra. She'd be in compliance with the dress code, as written.

I suspect such attire would be far more "distracting" to the boys at that school than the clothing she actually wore. School dress codes are either pretty universally silly or must be so detailed that they take every aspect of clothing into consideration.

I attended high school between 1959 and 1963. In 1963, my school's dress code changed from requiring dresses or skirts for girls to allowing girls to wear "trousers." I saw no change in anyone's deportment due to that change. Both boys and girls continued to be distracted by each other, oddly enough.

BTW, neither boys or girls were allowed to wear "dungarees." I'm not sure most of the kids at that school even knew what "dungarees" might be, really. We did know that blue jeans weren't OK, though.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
19. When my high school began allowing slacks for girls
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:24 PM
Aug 2015

My Mom had a fit - I wore a pair of nice slacks I had sewn and they called me into the office to tell me the slacks had to be "store-bought." Mom laid into the administrators. She was already pissed that her four college bound daughters were required to take Home Economics which meant we had one less course credit for our college transcripts.

But the they would not let us wear clothes that we had learned to sew in Home Ec. She wanted them to either drop Home Ec or to require that the boys take it, too. But if we had to take it, she insisted that they allow us to wear clothes that we had learned to make in that school class.

After that, I never got any complaint about my "home made" slacks, even when I wore the ones and friend and I tied dyed in psychedelic colors. With the matching tied dyed tunic, it was totally cool. The teachers just averted their eyes and ignored my clothes.

As for dungarees, Herb Tarlek nailed it:

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
22. I've always been opposed to letting women have collarbones! If we let them have collarbones,
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:28 PM
Aug 2015

then pretty soon, they'll want to have ankles, too!

And then knees!

And after that -- what?

Voting?

Driving cars?

Well, you can see how it just goes downhill from there

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
23. Looks like an appropriate outfit for a casual Friday at a typical workplace
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:28 PM
Aug 2015

How bizarre anyone would find this inappropriate

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