OK, This Trump Thing Isn’t Funny Anymore

[DonViejo]

Barrett Holmes Pitner

When people are shouting ‘white power’ at his rallies and Trump is endorsed by the Daily Stormer, the joke is over.

It has been more than two months since Donald Trump announced his candidacy for president, and slowly but surely the entertainment factor as been on the wane and the fear factor has been on the rise.

As his poll numbers steadily keep him in a comfortable first place in the crowded GOP field, and he packs stadiums—receiving raucous applause in Alabama and along the Mexican border—his fiery and divisive rhetoric has taken on a new meaning. His positions have now become the focal point of the GOP field and all candidates must respond to Trump before they can proceed.

What he and his supporters say can no longer be considered a joke. During his rally in Mobile, Alabama screams of “white power” could be heard from the audience. And last week, two white ex-cons from Boston beat up a homeless Hispanic man, and upon their arrest they told the police, “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported.”

In response to the attack, Trump said, “I will say that people who are following me are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.” He did not initially decry their actions, but later stated on Twitter that he thought the attack was “terrible.”

The joke is over. The horrors of a Trump presidency should not be lost on anyone. His immigration plan calls for the deportation of the estimated 11-12 million undocumented immigrants who have entered via our southern border. This position has definitely stoked the fire of Americans who are not pleased with our immigration policies, but an America that rounds up and forcefully removes a race or class of people is most certainly a dystopian nation that encourages lawlessness and anarchy.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/27/okay-this-trump-thing-isn-t-funny-anymore.html

[Fred Sanders]

1. What stadium did Trump "pack"? Is half empty the new defintion of "pack"??

CNN still loves fascism and Trump...tens of million of dollars in free advertising from a cable news outfit would make wannabe fascist and pretend religious kook Fred Sanders a front runner.

When Trump eventually implodes do not let the mass media, CNN, Don Lemon or Jeff Zucker off the hook...why an outfit headed by Jeff Zucker loves them the fascism is a mystery.

[GreatGazoo]

2. It is no accident that Trump is attracting Nazis

Bedside Reading For Donald Trump–A Book Of Speeches By Adolf Hitler

Yet when Marty Davis was asked about the book he gave Trump, he remarked:

“I did give him a book about Hitler. But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

All of this is doubly interesting in light of the rally Trump held in Birmingham this week. During that rally, a man sitting in the crowd directly behind the Donald began chanting:

“White power! White power!”

http://www.liberalamerica.org/2015/08/23/bedside-reading-for-donald-trump-a-book-of-speeches-by-adolf-hitler/

[Baitball Blogger]

3. You are seeing the true face of the Republican party.

Sadly, those friends who, in the past, were marginally racist are now full frontal. They have now fully bonded with people who follow that mental path and don't even bother to edit anything they say when they are around us. It's like they are angry and we're supposed to take the brunt of their anger issues.

Friendships will be broken in the coming months and years, no matter who wins the election.

[cyberswede]

4. Yep - he's just saying out loud what the Republicans have been implying for years.

Pandering to racists and bigots - only without dog-whistles this time.

[hifiguy]

21. This. It's been going on since Tricky Dick in 1968, though it has become

less coded and more blatant through Atwater, Rove and Ailes.

All tRUMP has done is finally take the mask off completely. And the rest of the pukes don't know what to do about him. They all believe the same things, with the probable exception of Rubio, but they can't even pretend to really denounce what they genuinely believe.

Frankenstein is tearing the burning castle down arond the Doctor.

[redstatebluegirl]

10. For us it is friends and family.

On campus we have one nut case professor in geology who spews all kinds of stupid stuff. The main problem is the staff who are about 80 percent right wing religious nut jobs. Those are the people we interface with every day.

My brother in law is completely off the rails crazy now. He used to be what we called an "under cover racist", now he is an in your face love Donald Trump racist. We are not going home for the holidays this year, I am finished biting my tongue and not being able to digest my dinner.

We went to a block party the other night, normally those are pretty tame, most of our neighbors are pretty moderate people for Oklahoma. Not this time, the change from just last year was scary. One neighbor brought out some propaganda from some right wing group that had a cover I couldn't even look at.

Even my elderly neighbor across the street who considers herself a democrat and pretty liberal according to her definition can't stop talking about the "thugs" in Ferguson and Baltimore. "Just look at the paper, all of the criminals are the same color." I have loved her since we got here, now I can't even talk to her when I see her in her driveway.

The whole climate of the country is frightening. Trump is a large part of it, but what I see is the fruit of what the right wing, Limbaugh and Fox have been sowing for years. This is what they wanted, a race war. I think what they are going to get in the end is class war but I could be wrong.

In many ways I am glad I am the age I am, I don't want to see what this place looks like in 30 years time.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. I know. This struggle sometimes feels impossible to overcome.

They are in full inductive reasoning mode, selecting articles in the paper that even remotely supports their position. Every article that involves a black criminal committing a crime gets accentuated, while the same crime committed by a white criminal is largely ignored.

I no longer believe that we can come through this together. Our side needs to stay strong to its objective, but at the same time, we need to do what we can to stop the behavior that keeps feeding the right-wing racists. I don't know how to do that, because we can't be responsible for everyone.

[deurbano]

13. Geez, I feel for you. I have the wingnut family situation, but at least I live in San Francisco.

It is very scary and depressing to see this national conservative id dropping the filters... dropping any pretense.

[summerschild]

5. You would think among 17 of them there would be at least one whole brain.

But if so, you would think wrong.

What on earth is this "herd" thinking they do - do they even realize they're doing it? I guess "thinking" doesn't happen.

[ancianita]

6. Understanding this voting block is important, though, no matter how poorly they speak.

...The horrors of a Trump presidency should not be lost on anyone. His immigration plan calls for the deportation of the estimated 11-12 million undocumented immigrants who have entered via our southern border. This position has definitely stoked the fire of Americans who are not pleased with our immigration policies, but an America that rounds up and forcefully removes a race or class of people is most certainly a dystopian nation that encourages lawlessness and anarchy.

Their slogans belie their fears of being a minority.

These conservative rally participants are looking at THAT race or class of people as ALREADY being lawless and anarchic in such a way that that race/class group is seen as itself being the driver of a dystopian nation, not conservatives themselves.

[JackInGreen]

7. So if he gets brown shirts

We're at liberty to deal with them, right?
we've got a whole generation trained and prepped to hunt Nazis.

[hamsterjill]

8. No, it is NOT funny and never really has been.

Look, the only comparative that I can give is George W. Bush.

In Texas, no one with any sense really felt that he would be governor. Then he was governor.

We all just KNEW that he couldn't win the presidency (okay, yeah, "win" is stretching it, but you get my point), but then he wound up in the White House.

I don't laugh about any of this stuff any more.

It's time for the Republican party to reign in Trump IF that's still even possible. And unless they want him as a serious candidate, they'd better start going after him on the issues - including the fact that the SOB has filed bankruptcy FOUR times.

[deurbano]

14. So true. That's how I felt about Reagan running for president-- a complete joke! It seemed so

preposterous. And then W... same thing. And then, here in California... Schwarzenegger. It's stupid to underestimate how stupid people can be.

[jalan48]

9. Trump is the next step of the New World Order.

Corporations and oligarchs tell Americans, sit down and shut up!

[pampango]

17. "Before the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures,

primarily the militantly anti-government right, and secondarily that part of fundamentalist Christianity concerned with the end-time emergence of the Antichrist. Skeptics such as Michael Barkun and Chip Berlet observed that right-wing populist conspiracy theories about a New World Order had not only been embraced by many.

The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which will replace sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history's progress. Significant occurrences in politics and finance are speculated to be orchestrated by an unduly influential cabal that operates through many front organizations. Numerous historical and current events are seen as steps in an ongoing plot to achieve world domination through secret political gatherings and decision-making processes.

During the 20th century, many politicians, such as Woodrow Wilson, used the term "new world order" to refer to a new period of history characterised by a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power after World War I and World War II. They all saw the period as an opportunity to implement idealistic proposals for global governance in the sense of new collective efforts to address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual nation-states to solve, while always respecting the right of nations to self-determination. These proposals led to the creation of international organizations (such as the UN and NATO), and international regimes (such as the Bretton Woods system and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT)), which were calculated both to maintain a balance of power in favor of the United States and to regularize cooperation between nations, in order to achieve a peaceful phase of capitalism. These creations in particular and liberal internationalism in general, however, were regularly criticized and opposed by American ultraconservative business nationalists from the 1930s on.

Progressives welcomed these new international organizations and regimes in the aftermath of the two World Wars, but argued that they suffered from a democratic deficit and were therefore inadequate not only to prevent another global war but to foster global justice. The United Nations was designed in 1945 by US bankers and State Department planners, and was always intended to remain a free association of sovereign nation-states, not a transition to democratic world government. Thus, progressive activists around the globe formed a world federalist movement, hoping in vain to create a "real" new world order.

Right-wing populist advocacy groups, such as the John Birch Society, disseminated a multitude of conspiracy theories in the 1960s claiming that the governments of both the United States and the Soviet Union were controlled by a cabal of corporate internationalists, greedy bankers and corrupt politicians who were intent on using the U.N. as the vehicle to create a "One World Government". This right-wing anti-globalist conspiracism fuelled the Bircher campaign for US withdrawal from the UN. American writer Mary M. Davison, in her 1966 booklet The Profound Revolution, traced the alleged New World Order conspiracy to the creation of the US Federal Reserve in 1913 by international bankers, who she claimed later formed the Council on Foreign Relations in 1921 as a shadow government. At the time the booklet was published, "international bankers" would have been interpreted by many readers as a reference to a postulated "international Jewish banking conspiracy" masterminded by the Rothschilds.

Claiming that the term "New World Order" is used by a secretive elite dedicated to the destruction of all national sovereignties, American writer Gary Allen—in his books None Dare Call It Conspiracy (1971), Rockefeller: Campaigning for the New World Order (1974), and Say "No!" to the New World Order (1987)—articulated the anti-globalist theme of much current right-wing populist conspiracism in the US. Thus, after the fall of communism in the early 1990s, the main demonized scapegoat of the American far right shifted seamlessly from crypto-communists, who plotted on behalf of the Red Menace, to globalists, who plot on behalf of the New World Order. The relatively painless nature of the shift was due to growing right-wing populist opposition to corporate internationalism, but also in part to the basic underlying apocalyptic millenarian paradigm, which fed the Cold War and the witch-hunts of the McCarthy period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

The far-right has been focused on the New World Order (a liberal conspiracy in their view, of course) since at least the 1930's. The right still regularly advocates for the US to withdraw from the UN and practically every other international organization and agreement we are party to. Some things never change.

[jalan48]

19. Sorry-I was referring to George Bush Sr.'s 1980's statement about the "New World Order"

[Worried senior]

20. My husband drove to MN to deliver

a load. After stopping for the evening he met a man who was also having a beer and they got to talking politics.

This man told him all about the New World Order and who all was involved in it. It was scary but believable, unfortunately not enough people were made aware nor did they care.

We are now seeing it come to pass and I guess part of me isn't sorry that my time is coming to an end. Do feel for my kids and such but they don't seem to care, too busy trying to keep their heads above water and that's the way these politicians want it.

An uneducated public is best for them.

[Perseus]

12. You are 100% correct, people need to see beyond the rhetoric to figure out the consequences

Hugo Chavez was just like Donald Trump, he got into power saying crazy things and moving crazy masses with him, and he won by a huge margin, and now look at Venezuela.

I recommend everyone to read "It Can't Happen Here" by Lewis Sinclair, written in 1935, and you will see Trump in those pages, you will also see the consequences of electing a fraud.

Here you can read it for free at "Project Gutenberg":

[link:http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301001h.html|

I agree that it is starting to reach danger levels, he is moving the wrong masses.

[arcane1]

15. You're comparing Hugo Chavez to Donald Trump?

I sometimes have to check which site I'm on these days

[hifiguy]

22. Ohhhh-kay.

Backs slowly away.

[Gothmog]

16. Trump is appealing to the GOP base and that base is crazy

[hifiguy]

23. Eeyup.

Batshit, paranoid, barking-at-the-moon loony.

[a kennedy]

18. I hear ha.....at my monthly poker group meeting last night.....two women in our group said

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That both are voting for The Hair. One is a democrat, has voted democratic all her life. Her reason for voting for him is, "I'm sick of the politicians, he's NOT one so I'm voting for him. The other one is voting for him, she has voted for republicans before and she too says the reason is because he ISN'T A LIFE LONG politician. I'm terribly nervous for this country if he does get the nomination and OMG, the White House.