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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEx-wife and Trump friend confirm: Trump studied Hitler speeches in "My New Order"
Davis clarified that he is not Jewish, and that the book was indeed My New Order. I did give him a book about Hitler, he said. But it was My New Order, Hitlers speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but Im not Jewish.
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We certainly have a more robust political system than 1930s Germany. But Trumps racist rhetoric should be viewed in the repugnant tradition of Hitler. When you call all Mexicans rapists, criminals, losers, and the source of disease (that last claim was an old Nazi favorite), when you disparage Mexican-Americans at every turn as the cause of all the countrys woes, and when you have the money to get your message out, journalists should take you seriously.
Such speech is a classic ploy to sow divisiveness and generate fear. That his message finds a home at all should be alarming, the pair wrote. Its one thing to argue about immigration policies. Its a completely different thing to condemn an entire ethnic group
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/23/donald-trump-actually-kept-a-book-of-adolf-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bedside/
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... I agree with your premise about courting the evangelical vote, but I think 1) the "leaders" of the evangelical faith are by and large just as morally bankrupt and corrupt as the politicians courting them, and they will do all they can to keep the believers on track, and 2) evangelical faithful are, by now, well accustomed to the failings of their leaders and standard bearers, and are taught to forgive them. It's like a get out of scandal free card. So I don't think being exposed as a fraud does much damage. They just cry and confess their sins, and then get right on with it.
To me, the real problem is that it "attracts" leaders and politicians who are willing to live as frauds as false prophets. If you're enough of an asshole to lie about religious faith for personal gain, then there's no line you won't cross. Perfect vocation for a sociopath.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The Austrian Corporal or Il Duce would have the buybull-banging totalitarians carrying them on their shoulders down Main Street. Authoritarian assholes love other authoritarian assholes, especially when the guy on the podium gives them a scapegoat.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and vividly!
Wodehouse could stick the shiv in so cleanly the victim never even realized it.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)So glad someone found the Real Story,remember a Hitler Book of speechs,many of Bundtest's in the 40's had this POS and tried our darnedest to find a copy from the Rellies. Seams everyone that we knew that had a copy suddenly miss placed it. Yes,we had Rellies who supported Adolph.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
This isn't a "comparison involving Hitler" but rather documentation of one source of Trump's strategy as given by 2 eye witnesses.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)-------------------------------------
If Trump in fact kept a book about Hitler speeches by his bedside, it's not an "inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Nazis".
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Oddly enough, a lot of people place a great and blind faith into that particular internet meme.
TampaAnimusVortex
(785 posts)Feel free to make any comparisons you like.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Nice find, GreatGazoo.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)He's a loudmouthed, big-talking xenophobic buffoon who is nothing but a cheapjack bully; he doesn't have a messiah complex. Which, taken together, describes this guy far more than it does Mister Hilter:
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Conservatives.
http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Nazis
Scuba
(53,475 posts)True that.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)And that the guy then made a point of saying that he is actually not Jewish.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)and out and out lies. It fits right in with his rhetoric.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The fact that he thought it was relevant that it was a Jewish person who gave him the book about Hitler's speeches to read. Why did he feel it necessary to include that (erroneous) information? Now that he knows that it was a non-Jewish person who gave him the book, does that make it no longer OK to read it?
navarth
(5,927 posts)to me the question is how to gently argue the uninformed away from him. I know a nice old guy, a veteran, just a real nice old guy. He like Trump, told me that Trump must know something about running a big organization because he's rich.
I did the usual stuff, telling him Trump inherited all his money and screwed it up bad enough to go bankrupt 3 times. But I'm not sure I got through to him.
It's going to be a job.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)The irony is that his followers often say they like him because, "he speaks the truth"
There are some that we'll never be able to get through to. But as the luster wears off, I think we will see people migrate to a different clown in the clown car.
navarth
(5,927 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)really?!
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)jalan48
(13,869 posts)I would bet he would be a President who would encourage the Oath Keepers presence at public demonstrations, legitimizing armed, right wing extremism.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)are totalitarian dictatorships. That's why every time someone tells me they want government to be run like a business, I cringe. Because that's what they are asking for.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)It's the idiots who believe in him that worry me
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I have to say that you know the media is going to give this little to no attention, all the while they'll continue attacking Hillary and ignoring Bernie.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)He absolutely cannot be that ignorant and that stupid to really believe all the shit he says.
But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principlewhich is quite true within itselfthat in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie