"The costs of Trump's deportation plans could be reduced if targets had to wear yellow stars on

[pampango]

their clothing to advertise their coming expulsion. There is a precedent."

Trump’s immigration plan could spell doom for the GOP

It has come to this: The GOP, formerly the party of Lincoln and ostensibly the party of liberty and limited government, is being defined by clamors for a mass roundup and deportation of millions of human beings. To will an end is to will the means for the end, so the Republican clamors are also for the requisite expansion of government’s size and coercive powers.

He is, however, at his most Republican when he honors family values: He proposes to deport intact families, including children who are citizens. “We have to keep the families together,” he says, “but they have to go.” Trump would deport everyone, then “have an expedited way of getting them [“the good ones”; “when somebody is terrific”] back.” Big Brother government will identify the “good” and “terrific” from among the wretched refuse of other teeming shores.

Trump’s roundup would be about 94 times larger than the wartime internment of 117,000 persons of Japanese descent. But Trump wants America to think big. The big costs, in decades and dollars (hundreds of billions), of Trump’s project could be reduced if, say, the targets were required to sew yellow patches on their clothing to advertise their coming expulsion. There is precedent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-losing-immigration-policy/2015/08/21/b58a6d9e-4771-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html

Of course, Will's main concern is Trump's histrionics will cause the GOP to lose in 2016. I hope Trump does not hear of the yellow star idea.

[NCjack]

1. If Trump and the rich were vigorously prosecuted for hiring people without

proper documents, the problem would disappear overnight. Put the employers in prison camps, not the employees and contract laborers.

[HassleCat]

2. That's the key

And it would be easier, from a logistical standpoint, to identify them and round them up. Politically, it's impossible.

[Daninmo]

3. What is not clear to me is,

When I hear "If the rich were vigorously prosecuted for hiring people without proper documents, the problem would disappear overnight." Where would all these people go? Are they all going to leave the USA and go home to a country that has no jobs for them? What about the children that are legal citizens but their parents aren't?

[safeinOhio]

4. Simple

They open businesses, like real estate developers.

[NCjack]

14. Prosecuting the rich for sourcing American jobs to illegals would increase the money

flow into the bottom of the economy for US citizens and legal immigrants. Fining and if necessary jailing the rich would add money to the treasury or remove economic predators. That would throttle the flow of illegal immigration. At the same time, we provide paths for citizenship, legal immigrate temporary worker permits, assistance for those who wish to leave the USA, expulsion for those that try to stay, and prison for violent criminals. Any plan to gain control of the problem must begin with action on the demand for cheap labor. Trump and his rich buddies hire the illegals. They should pay to cure the problem.

[HeiressofBickworth]

5. Stars! I was wondering how he might implement such a plan

Will platoons of soldiers go house to house rooting out immigrants? Will there be a location those rounded up would be sent before being deported, somewhere to concentrate their numbers, perhaps? You know, just for convenience sake, say. He has made his intentions known regarding children, but how about spouses -- an immigrant married to a US citizen for example. Should both be required to go?

The questions are endless about how he would actually make this happen. Or is he just blowing smoke up the asses of his xenophobic followers in order to get their votes?

[tblue37]

8. Will they transport them by train? nt

[HeiressofBickworth]

9. Gosh, they'd have to

Flying is too expensive; Trump would never pay for it. And how would he ever get enough cars and drivers to transport 11 million people. So, trains it is.

Do his followers think of the practicality of the goals he expresses? Or are they just thrilled with the mere idea of it? Assholes.

[tblue37]

10. And they said, "Never again." Right. Those attitudes, that willingness--eagerness, even--

to commit atrocity never goes away. It must be watched for and diligently resisted, not encourage by carnival barkers and their media accomplices.

[HeiressofBickworth]

11. You are absolutely correct

I was attempting to use sarcasm to highlight the absurdity of Trump's statements and how the media is promoting him just for the entertainment ratings (which translates to advertising dollars, of course -- I always say, it's always about the money).

The phrase "never again" is lost on Trump and his minions -- they probably think it only applies to Jews, failing to recognize that mass deportation of a number of ethnic groups was also a part of the Holocaust. Makes one wonder just how far the RWNJs would go to achieve what amounts to a type of cultural purity.

At first I thought Trump was comic relief in an otherwise pretty dull play (GOP primaries). He is not funny nor even mildly amusing. The fact that his supporters loudly cheer makes me want to puke.

[tblue37]

12. I was being sarcastic, too, of course--especially with the reference to trains, since that

is precisely how the Holocaust victims were transported to the camps.

I wasn't arguing with you at all. I was following your "Modest Proposal" lead, just as you were following George Will's lead in his remark about yellow stars.

[HeiressofBickworth]

13. It's gratifying to find we are on the same page.

Thanks for the exchange. If Trump keeps flapping his jaws, he might just kill his own campaign. We can hope.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. You know we've fallen down the rabbit hole when I can agree with George Will

on anything, but he's spot-on where he points out that Trump's immigration policies are anything but a small-government solution. I appreciate that Will finds Trump objectionable mainly because Trump is likely to cause the GOP to crash and burn in 2016, but he is quite correct in suggesting that what Trump wants to do smacks strongly of fascism.

[UTUSN]

7. R#8 & K nt