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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:49 PM Aug 2015

Donald Trump dares to stand between Jeb Bush and an election.

Last edited Mon Aug 24, 2015, 04:51 PM - Edit history (1)

CNN: Does the RNC have a secret anti-Trump war room? Undoubtedly.


Meanwhile, Trump is out there giving interviews like this:

Donald Trump: "Hedge Fund Guys Didn't Build This Country," They're "Getting Away With Murder"



Next to Jeb Bush, Donald Trump sounds positively sane on foreign policy

In that Aug. 6 debate and in interviews, Trump has made a point of noting that he was against the Iraq War before it was cool to say so. He likes to cite a 2004 Esquire article in which he asked "Does anybody really believe that Iraq is going to be a wonderful democracy?" after the U.S. left. He went on to predict that "the meanest, toughest, smartest, most vicious guy will take over."

That pretty much describes ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.



The Establishment is NOT HAPPY with this turn of events for Their Candidate, Mr. Bush III.

While no one was paying attention:

Florida quietly sets up an epic 2016 primary clash, May 18, 2015

The campaign for the Republican presidential nomination may have a new expiration date: March 15.

That’s when Florida holds its primary contest — which will now be winner-take-all.

The state’s Republican Party quietly approved the new delegate allocation rules Saturday night, while the political world’s attention was focused on Iowa and the 11 Republican presidential hopefuls stumping there.

But the Florida decision, another attempt by the state GOP to boost Jeb Bush's the Sunshine State’s relevance in the party’s nomination process, is the far more consequential event because of the size of the prize: 99 delegates.


(Strikethrough text added, because it is the real reason for the GOP's new "rules".)


How Florida's Later, Winner-Take-All Primary Is Both Risky and Rewarding for Jeb Bush, March 31, 2015

The date change was backed by Republicans in the Florida Legislature and signed into law by GOP Gov. Rick Scott in mid-March.

.....

Bush's allies helped push the measure through the state legislature; one representative even emailed Bush back in January about the effort. Florida Republican Party Chairman Blaise Ingoglia, who is also a member of the state House, said he was not in contact with Bush, Rubio, or any members of their teams as the bill moved through the legislature.


The new date, March 15, is the earliest under the Republican Party's rules that Florida can hold its primary and give all its delegates to the winner, a potential windfall for Bush, who currently holds a huge lead in the polls there.



NOTE: Jeb Bush no longer has that huge lead in Florida, his 'home' state. He lost it in June to Donald J. Trump.

Trump now leads Jeb Bush in Florida by 21% to 17%, and climbing.


And another little Bush flunkie piped up about the new 'Winner Take All' Florida strategy:

"Now we're seeing people stay alive a lot longer than they used to," said former Florida state House speaker Will Weatherford, who is also backing Bush. "Staying power is really important, and there isn't as much of a necessity for Florida to be really early because candidates are lasting longer."


Yeah, Mr. Weatherford. Candidates are "lasting longer" because of the multiple SuperPACs keeping all of these 'snowball chance in hell of winning' candidates in the race until March. These 14-15 candidates are being propped up and used to divide the field so that Bush can win with very low vote percentages, say, around 19 or 20%.

Hey, aren't all those SuperPACs and billionaires grand?!!

The SuperPACs exist to prop up all of these candidates as long as The Establishment needs them to do so, and to show us, the little people, that The Establishment folks DON'T NEED THE VOTERS to shoehorn their anointed candidate into the lead.

The SuperPACs RULE, folks. They are choosing the candidates for us, and we the people are officially irrelevant in the process of choosing our country's leaders.


Remember, Jeb Bush does have experience at shoplifiting presidential victories at the last minute.


Donald Trump knows how to engage an audience.

I hope Mr. Trump will shine a spotlight onto the corrosive effect of these SuperPACs that have been unleashed by Citizens United, and how they are wielding the power of their millions/billions of dollars to rob our democratic process from us.

This country needs to hear it. (And also about Jeb Bush's role at Lehman Brothers.)





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Donald Trump dares to stand between Jeb Bush and an election. (Original Post) seafan Aug 2015 OP
It will be schadenfreude if Trump smacks down Bush in Florida and scoops the lot Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #1
we don't have winner take all primaries dsc Aug 2015 #3
I read that "l" as an "r" for a moment TheSarcastinator Aug 2015 #2
The inevitable, predestined candidate is having a hard time NightWatcher Aug 2015 #4

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. It will be schadenfreude if Trump smacks down Bush in Florida and scoops the lot
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:58 PM
Aug 2015

based on rules that were set up to make things easier for Bush to win.

But it does make me wonder if similar shenanigans have been going on with rules on the Democratic side of things, or if they just are assuming 'inevitability' will win out.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
3. we don't have winner take all primaries
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:28 PM
Aug 2015

they are forbidden. States have been known to game the times of their primaries to help candidates and to gain influence. Michigan and Florida did so in both 2004 and 2008 (to gain influence not try to help candidates).

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
2. I read that "l" as an "r" for a moment
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:58 PM
Aug 2015

and about lost my damn mind. I'll bet both statements are equally accurate, though.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. The inevitable, predestined candidate is having a hard time
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:41 PM
Aug 2015

Being told you're the preseason favorite is one thing, but performing at game time is why they play the game. Months ago, we were told this was going to be Bush v Clinton part deux, but both of them are learning that you've got to show up to claim the throne.

Trump is starting to run away with things and absent a severe catastrophe on his part, he might skate into it, to the dismay of the GOP.

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