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NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:03 PM Aug 2015

How did you react to Obama picking Joe Biden in 2008?

Seven years ago today, then Illinois Senator Barack Obama picked then Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden to be his vice presidential running mate in Springfield, Ill., where Obama had announced his presidential campaign in February 2007. Biden brought foreign policy chops and a classic blue-collar appeal that revved support among Obama; some of the blue collar supporters had supported Hillary in 2008; Obama defeated Hillary Clinton for the 2008 nomination in June '08, some of these blue collar Democrats had become unenthusiastic to an Obama candidacy. How did you originally react to Obama picking Joe Biden in 2008? Did you receive that famous text message that Obama had sent to his reporters and to the media about the choice? Did you want another choice such as then-Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, then-Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, etc?





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How did you react to Obama picking Joe Biden in 2008? (Original Post) NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 OP
It was my dream ticket Egnever Aug 2015 #1
Loved it. woolldog Aug 2015 #2
I was excited and happy about Joe Biden being Obama's choice. leftofcool Aug 2015 #3
I was glad he listened to HRC, the Big Dog, and James Carville. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #4
Obama chose Biden left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #14
Yes....he did, on the advice of others. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #26
Thought it was a good choice then edhopper Aug 2015 #5
Sort of meh tularetom Aug 2015 #6
Naming Hillary as SOS was an excellent choice. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #9
In retrospect it was not but I suppose a bargain was made to appease the Clintons tularetom Aug 2015 #10
In your opinion, she had a big job trying to right the wrongs the US did under the Bush Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #13
But what about the "blood on his hands"? You were willing to look the other way on his IWR vote? brooklynite Aug 2015 #12
He has a penis though dsc Aug 2015 #39
Same abelenkpe Aug 2015 #30
Same reaction. Kinda -- "Huh -- Joe Biden? Really? Okay, well, it could be worse ..." Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #36
Biden was my 1st choice in 08 gwheezie Aug 2015 #7
This sums up my POV nicely too Runningdawg Aug 2015 #17
Biden is a heavy in foreign affairs, he had the ability to speak strongly on the Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #8
I felt that it communicated wonderful things about both Obama and Biden virtualobserver Aug 2015 #11
I was overjoyed. I like Biden because he refuses to be a part of the machine. Frustratedlady Aug 2015 #16
Not impressed, and as you might recall Biden had to run around promising he'd be 'as liberal as Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #18
I was happy at the choice. I had wanted Kaine. NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #19
Not thrilled at all - but I had faith in Obama TBF Aug 2015 #20
I liked the choice personally Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2015 #21
ITA DawgHouse Aug 2015 #32
Very pleased/ hifiguy Aug 2015 #22
I love Joe Biden. I was delighted! lunatica Aug 2015 #23
Biden is sharp as a tack and wiped the floor in every debate he was in. nt Quixote1818 Aug 2015 #25
I was pissed and still am ghostsinthemachine Aug 2015 #27
Joe knew congress. Strong choice. JoePhilly Aug 2015 #28
shrugged my shoulders bermudat Aug 2015 #29
I preferred him to others speculated about. mmonk Aug 2015 #31
It was good. In fact, perfect to shut up the people who were snarking about Obama's CTyankee Aug 2015 #33
Of the three apparent contenders mentioned, AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #34
I figured it was a purely political pick. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #35
My first reaction was "Right on, Biden will follow Obama in the White House." L. Coyote Aug 2015 #37
I believe I thought it was a decent choice. bigwillq Aug 2015 #38
relieved it wasn't Evan Bayh nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #40
Imagine a Bayh-Palin debate? NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #43
And Biden didn't? nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #45
I think I made a bunch of jokes about toll roads, credit card companies Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #41
. Rex Aug 2015 #42
I thought it was both shrewd and disappointing. bluedigger Aug 2015 #44
I confess, I was upset because of Biden's role in the Clarence Thomas - Anita Hill incident. But kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #46
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
1. It was my dream ticket
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:09 PM
Aug 2015

First and only time in my life I got exactly the candidates I wanted. Will never happen again.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
3. I was excited and happy about Joe Biden being Obama's choice.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:10 PM
Aug 2015

As well, I would have no trouble with Joe entering the race. Hillary could still be my first choice but he would become my second choice and if he won the nomination, I would campaign my ass off for him.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
14. Obama chose Biden
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:59 PM
Aug 2015

Obama has always said he chose Biden because he liked the way Biden performed in the Democratic debates.
I've never heard Obama chose Biden on Hillary's advice.

Response to msanthrope (Reply #15)

Response to msanthrope (Reply #15)

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. Sort of meh
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:16 PM
Aug 2015

I liked Obama enough that it didn't matter who he chose as VP.

I guess I was happy it wasn't Hillary Clinton.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. In retrospect it was not but I suppose a bargain was made to appease the Clintons
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:25 PM
Aug 2015

She actually would have done less damage as VP, but there was always the chance that she would become POTUS and I'm pretty certain Obama did not want that.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. In your opinion, she had a big job trying to right the wrongs the US did under the Bush
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:30 PM
Aug 2015

administration, this counts in my book, she did a great job.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
7. Biden was my 1st choice in 08
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:18 PM
Aug 2015

Then Hillary, then Obama. So I was glad my top 3 had such important positions after the election. Basically any combination of the 3 was OK with me.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Biden is a heavy in foreign affairs, he had the ability to speak strongly on the
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:19 PM
Aug 2015

campaign trail, Obama knew he could depend on his advice and Biden committed himself to serve the president. I thought it was an excellent choice. We can thank Biden for speaking out on same sex marriage, the ball started rolling very fast and now look where we are.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
11. I felt that it communicated wonderful things about both Obama and Biden
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:26 PM
Aug 2015

The "clean" gaffe was a pretty big deal. I don't know of any politician who would have chosen a "VP"
who had made a comparable one. It showed what Obama saw in Biden's character.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
16. I was overjoyed. I like Biden because he refuses to be a part of the machine.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 01:11 PM
Aug 2015

Joe is Joe and if Obama didn't want him at first, I think he's glad he chose him at the present time and wouldn't be surprised if he urged Biden to jump in the race in the event Hillary fails to get control of the process.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. Not impressed, and as you might recall Biden had to run around promising he'd be 'as liberal as
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 01:21 PM
Aug 2015

Obama' because people thought Obama was a big liberal back then. To me, Biden is Senator Credit Card, the man who brought us Justice Thomas, the guy who shouted out that he agreed with Palin that gay people are insufficiently loved by God to rate marriage rights. Yeah, later he 'evolved' but to be blunt, I have never in my life shouted out that I agree that some group of people should be treated as inferiors, never. To me that is disgusting. Joe was a DOMA yes vote, an IWR yes vote.

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
19. I was happy at the choice. I had wanted Kaine.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:02 PM
Aug 2015

I thought Kaine would have given Obama Virginia and some Southern states. But Obama won without Kaine in 2008.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
20. Not thrilled at all - but I had faith in Obama
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:19 PM
Aug 2015

young guy with a lot of enthusiasm. Biden has never thrilled me because he's too tight with the banks (credit cards). I won't vote for him if he's Hillary's replacement.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
21. I liked the choice personally
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:24 PM
Aug 2015

I thought he would complement Obama well with some experience/blue collar appeal. I sort of thought Hillary would have been a good choice too since she was so close to winning the nomination but being SOS was probably better in that it put her in the cabinet without being tied to closely to Obama if she ever decided to run again.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
22. Very pleased/
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:36 PM
Aug 2015

I have a couple of bones to pick with Joe (Anita Hill, bankruptcy bill) but he was my preferred choce for VP by far.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
27. I was pissed and still am
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:06 PM
Aug 2015

I really do not like Joe Biden. The RAVE ACT did it for me. The whole drug warrior thing. the RAVE Act though was horrible legislation, tacked on to the Amber Alert Bill after failing in commitee a number of times previously.

the RAVE Act cost me money, some of my friends had their property confiscated and spend time in prison thanks to Joe Biden.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
33. It was good. In fact, perfect to shut up the people who were snarking about Obama's
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:53 PM
Aug 2015

lack of foreign policy cred. Joe supplied that and satisfied most people (even t hose of us against the Iraq invasion) but I came around to like Joe a lot.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
34. Of the three apparent contenders mentioned,
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:36 PM
Aug 2015

Tim Kaine, Evan Bayh (ugh), and Joe, it was Joe my a mile. He has served as Obama's wingman with diligence and loyalty.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
35. I figured it was a purely political pick.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:42 PM
Aug 2015

Something to get him the potential swing 'white middle class votes'. It seemed to have worked out for him pretty well back then.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
37. My first reaction was "Right on, Biden will follow Obama in the White House."
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:15 PM
Aug 2015

I still expect that to happen, and I want Biden to announce his V-P choice when he announces his candidacy = Elizabeth Warren.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
38. I believe I thought it was a decent choice.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:33 PM
Aug 2015

Although after eight years, I am kind of over Biden. I hope he doesn't run for prez.

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
43. Imagine a Bayh-Palin debate?
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:18 PM
Aug 2015

I think that if Obama had picked Evan Bayh, that he would have beaten Palin in that debate on Oct 2, 2008.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
41. I think I made a bunch of jokes about toll roads, credit card companies
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 09:22 PM
Aug 2015

and that Biden was LynneSin's uncle, or something

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
44. I thought it was both shrewd and disappointing.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:25 PM
Aug 2015

Shrewd because Biden is smart and a good campaigner - it certainly helped the ticket.

Disappointing because as likable as Joe is, I have a hard time believing there will ever be an anti-corporatist from Delaware, the home of incorporation laws. As the last two terms have played out, and cabinet choices have shown, progressive economic policy has not been a particular trait of this administration.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
46. I confess, I was upset because of Biden's role in the Clarence Thomas - Anita Hill incident. But
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:56 PM
Aug 2015

got over it.

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