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Is it true that the economy grew better under Carter than Reagan (Original Post) gabeana Aug 2015 OP
Most likely, yet Sherman A1 Aug 2015 #1
Yes, because Paul Volcker had not destroyed the economy yet. roamer65 Aug 2015 #2
It's close; average annual GDP growth under Carter 3.3%, Reagan 3.5% muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #3
Thanks for the link and the #'s gabeana Aug 2015 #4
Conservatives forget how devastating the recession of 1980-1981 was JCMach1 Aug 2015 #5
Carter, like Obama, inherited a steaming bag of crap A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #6
Actually, most Democratic presidents inherit a steaming bag of crap tabasco Aug 2015 #7
Point well taken. n/t A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #9
I have to doubt it Reter Aug 2015 #8
much of the difference is how the growth was DISTRIBUTED: Reagan MisterP Aug 2015 #10
Yes. The economy has never grown under a GOP president. Rex Aug 2015 #11
Not the debt or deficits though... Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #12

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Most likely, yet
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:57 AM
Aug 2015

it was a different time. Inflation was much higher in the 70's and 80's, less automation (computers) in the workplace, hence the need for more people particularly in office work and the Boomer generation was still heavily into their consuming years with growing families and alike.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. Yes, because Paul Volcker had not destroyed the economy yet.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:08 AM
Aug 2015

His interest rate policy singlehandedly destroyed our manufacturing base.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
3. It's close; average annual GDP growth under Carter 3.3%, Reagan 3.5%
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:47 AM
Aug 2015

GDP growth figures take inflation into account, so these are valid comparisons, even if inflation was higher in the 70s than 80s (which is true for most developed countries, not just the USA).

http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Year/a/US-GDP-History.htm

Taking Carter as the years 1977-80, it's 4.6%, 5.6%, 3.2%, -0.2% = average 3.3%
Reagan 1981-88: 2.6%, -1.9%, 4.6%, 7.3%, 4.2%, 3.5%, 3.5%, 4.2% = average 3.5%

(you get the same average figures for arithmetic means of the simple growth figures, and geometric means for the chained total GDP figures these imply, if anyone's interested)

Not a significant difference, I'd say.

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
4. Thanks for the link and the #'s
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:27 PM
Aug 2015

To be fair then Carter did have a higher growth because through the #'s provided Carters 4 years in office the economy grew 3.3% to Reagans 1st term 3.15%

Maybe its playing with numbers but Carter holds his own with regards to economy to Reagan who sold the Country out in the long term

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
6. Carter, like Obama, inherited a steaming bag of crap
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:17 PM
Aug 2015

The country had just wound down the Viet Nam war, and military spending, like housing booms, are good stimulus for the economy. Since Carter didn't have a giant war to spend money on, government spending contracted.

We also had massive inflation in the early days of the Carter administration so it is amazing that the growth numbers were as high as they were, considering, as I said, the bag of crap he had to deal with.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
7. Actually, most Democratic presidents inherit a steaming bag of crap
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:19 PM
Aug 2015

from their republican predecessors.

Cleaning up republican disasters, it's what Democrats do.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
8. I have to doubt it
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:35 PM
Aug 2015

Not complimenting Reagan, but the late 70's I get the picture of poor, while the mid 80's everyone is happy and spending. At least that's what it was like for my family and their friends when I was growing up.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. much of the difference is how the growth was DISTRIBUTED: Reagan
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

explicitly kept any economic growth in the upper classes and maybe the upper-middle-class rentiers and yuppies
plus there's an oil boom-and-bust underlying the 1978-83 recession
and to be fair Carter turned to what we call Reaganomics 1978-9 as the Chicagoids promised it as the golden ticket out of stagflation, but that wouldn't have lasted past 1981 (nor slid into full trickle-down)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. Yes. The economy has never grown under a GOP president.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

The debt always grows with a GOP president. They are HORRIBLE at their jobs and they just don't care. Also, the GOP likes to pretend they care about being frugal yet they just spend and spend and spend without a single thought toward repayment. Dems OTOH try for a balanced approach between taxing and spending. WE get villanized for actually expecting people to pay taxes.

It is the main reason the GOP always leaves office with America in worse shape. In many different ways.

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