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niyad

(113,581 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:12 PM Aug 2015

“Female Viagra” Approved by FDA


“Female Viagra” Approved by FDA


Yesterday, the FDA approved the first drug to treat low or absent sexual desire in pre-menopausal women. Popularly known as “female Viagra,” the drug, Addyi, has created a clear divide in feminist circles. On one side of the debate are advocates for the drug. Many of them are part of Even the Score, a coalition that has framed the controversy surrounding the drug—which has been up for FDA approval a total of three times—as an issue of gender equality. They argue, for instance, that it is unfair that there has not been a treatment for women’s low libido, since Viagra and similar drugs for men have been approved for years—although these drugs treat erectile dysfunction, not decreased libido.
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Critics, however, say that the drug’s risks—including low blood pressure, nausea and dizziness—don’t outweigh its benefits, which include an increase of no more than one “sexually satisfying event” per month. (WOW, ONE event per month--BOB works better than that!)

“This is a triumph of marketing over science,” says Cindy Pearson, executive director of the National Women’s Health Network. “Women don’t have enough information to accurately assess the risk of this drug.” She added that the FDA’s decision to require post-market studies of the drug “is feeble and unreliable” since “about half of all studies required by the FDA post-approval are never completed.”

In June, a governmental advisory committee recommended the FDA approve the drug. Prior to that meeting, the FDA had rejected the drug twice for not meeting risk-to-benefit ratio standards. The drug’s manufacturer, Sprout Pharmaceuticals, conducted a safety study after the drug was rejected a second time using mostly male participants (a drug for females, tested on males?? WTF?????); the drug was approved anyway.

http://msmagazine.com/blog/2015/08/19/female-viagra-approved-by-fda/
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“Female Viagra” Approved by FDA (Original Post) niyad Aug 2015 OP
About damned time. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #1
"conducted a safety study after the drug was rejected a second time using mostly male participants" riversedge Aug 2015 #2
are we surprised? niyad Aug 2015 #3
A new rape drug for the Cosby's of the world Generic Other Aug 2015 #4
wouldn't be surprising. niyad Aug 2015 #5
Apples and orangutans. demmiblue Aug 2015 #6
You clearly haven't read anything about it before making this ridiculous post Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #7
Women will be more likely to be coerced to take it Generic Other Aug 2015 #10
Or become the new "rape drug." yellowcanine Aug 2015 #13
I was already labeled ridiculous upthread Generic Other Aug 2015 #16
'The idea this could be a "rape drug" is incredibly ignorant.' Really? yellowcanine Aug 2015 #14
Legal Spanish Fly Generic Other Aug 2015 #17
Anyone who thinks this will not be used by rapists does not understand how they think. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #18
Legal Spanish Fly... holy shite! Lol! demmiblue Aug 2015 #19
Why? I don't intend to use the product Generic Other Aug 2015 #20
Whoosh... demmiblue Aug 2015 #21
As I said, I predict abuse of the product Generic Other Aug 2015 #22
I am a woman. demmiblue Aug 2015 #28
Well lets see Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #33
Funny- when Viagra came out no one said it would get men raped Marrah_G Aug 2015 #34
one of the many ironies of the cosby situation is that he's a moralizing pompous prick, on the Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #37
The outrage is that the FDA approved this drug to treat low libido. Vinca Aug 2015 #8
+1 (at the expense of women's health) demmiblue Aug 2015 #9
++1 DawgHouse Aug 2015 #11
yep and here's info steve2470 Aug 2015 #24
Big pharma loves "repurposing." That's how male Viagra came about. Vinca Aug 2015 #29
That's right, lots of people forget about that! DawgHouse Aug 2015 #30
"Female viagra" is a misnomer. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #12
Another study suggests that B2G Aug 2015 #15
And maybe helping with the kids and chores, so she has a bit more time and energy tblue37 Aug 2015 #27
both of you, thank you so much for stating what is so frequently overlooked. niyad Aug 2015 #31
assuming we're talking about adults, here Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #35
NPR did a show on this 2 mos. ago. The company pushing... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #23
Interesting for pre-menopausal. Didn't think that there would be that Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2015 #25
Personally I would love to be able to use this drug Marrah_G Aug 2015 #26
you are absolutely correct. niyad Aug 2015 #32
Hey, an actual sane answer. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #36

riversedge

(70,306 posts)
2. "conducted a safety study after the drug was rejected a second time using mostly male participants"
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:40 PM
Aug 2015

ummmm

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
7. You clearly haven't read anything about it before making this ridiculous post
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:06 PM
Aug 2015

It functions along the lines of an antidepressant in altering/correcting brain chemistry. It would take weeks of daily use before effects are shown and it simply increased libido.

The idea this could be a "rape drug" is incredibly ignorant.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
10. Women will be more likely to be coerced to take it
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:18 PM
Aug 2015

Needed or not.

Just thinking along the lines of some of the pervert men in this country.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
16. I was already labeled ridiculous upthread
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 03:22 PM
Aug 2015

for saying what you said. I just don't trust it. The drug was marketed originally to men who felt inadequate due to sexual dysfunction. It became a joke to even use the product. Many would never admit to using it because it would be seen as a weakness. Few would abuse it for the hell of it. With lackluster sales, the market shifts to women. Any sales pitch promoting a pill to arouse women will eventually be used as a tool against them. Just my opinion.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
14. 'The idea this could be a "rape drug" is incredibly ignorant.' Really?
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 03:16 PM
Aug 2015

If some creep thinks that it will boost libido of women do you really think he won't try this in an effort to make a women more susceptible to his "charms"? And then when that fails, he gets violent. You really think it won't be used that way? Rapists are not experts on brain chemistry.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
18. Anyone who thinks this will not be used by rapists does not understand how they think.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 03:32 PM
Aug 2015

Rapists think they are God's gift to women. All they need to do is convince the women. They will use any means at hand and this will be one more thing they will use.

demmiblue

(36,893 posts)
28. I am a woman.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:09 PM
Aug 2015

I am simply insinuating that another woman may want to check out the pharmacology behind the drug before making specious claims.

It is not Cosby level drugs & it is not Spanish Fly in its application. There is NO connection with 'rape' drugs. There is almost no therapeutic value, for that matter. You have gone off on a tangent.

You are more than welcome to the last word.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
33. Well lets see
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:21 PM
Aug 2015

It will require slipping a woman the drug for around 20-40 days, every day, before there is any noticeable effect. If there is

An effect that will be varied in time so hard to predict, may not happen, and when it does will not be aimed at a specific person but rather heighten interest in whomever she already would be inclined to be attracted to.

Talk about the worst idea for a rape drug ever....

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
34. Funny- when Viagra came out no one said it would get men raped
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:36 PM
Aug 2015

Why is it so difficult for people to be okay with the fact that women have sexual needs also?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
37. one of the many ironies of the cosby situation is that he's a moralizing pompous prick, on the
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:49 PM
Aug 2015

subject of both sex AND drugs.

And by most accounts, whatever is wrong in his massively fucked up head goes beyond some libido enhancement or "spanish fly". He seems to prefer his victims totally unconscious.

Vinca

(50,308 posts)
8. The outrage is that the FDA approved this drug to treat low libido.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:11 PM
Aug 2015

It's an anti-depressant, not "female Viagra." But "big pharma" will rake in kazillions after they begin their advertising campaigns and that was the real desired result.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
24. yep and here's info
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:39 PM
Aug 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flibanserin

Flibanserin was originally developed as an antidepressant,[21][22] before being repurposed for the treatment of HSDD.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
30. That's right, lots of people forget about that!
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:48 PM
Aug 2015

Same with Bupropion. Long time marketed as an anti depressant (Wellbutrin) and then marketed as Zyban to help quit smoking.

Expect to pay much more for Zyban, even though they are the same thing.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
12. "Female viagra" is a misnomer.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 03:10 PM
Aug 2015

Something designed to keep your johnson erect is in a different category from a libido booster. Actually, it appears to be more in line with snake oil aphrodisiac remedies sold on the internet. There is not much question that Viagra works as intended most of the time. But the evidence that this new drug for women works as intended is sketchy at best.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
27. And maybe helping with the kids and chores, so she has a bit more time and energy
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

left over and less resentment.

The most effective "foreplay" is ongoing and doesn't occur in bed. It occurs over coffee, while shopping, cooking, or cleaning together, while sharing interests and fun activities together.

I think people are unwise to pair up with someone whose libido is inherently and drastically incompatible with their own, but unless that is the real issue, then (barring illness), exhaustion, stress, and resentment are the main things that depress a partner's desire to have sex.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. assuming we're talking about adults, here
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:45 PM
Aug 2015

I suspect women can make up their own minds as to whether or not this is something they're interested in, to improve the quality of their lives, just as we trust women to make other health and reproductive choices.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
23. NPR did a show on this 2 mos. ago. The company pushing...
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:36 PM
Aug 2015

the drug had little luck with approval until a new P.R. outfit was hired to cast the drug's use in a feminist light which put pressure on the FDA to approve Addyi because men got theirs'. The place to look is the power base formed from this P.R. outfit.

How an ideology can come flying back up your tailpipe, like a heat-seeking missile.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Interesting for pre-menopausal. Didn't think that there would be that
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:46 PM
Aug 2015

many women before menopause who would need it. Now after menopause would be a real achievement.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
26. Personally I would love to be able to use this drug
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:48 PM
Aug 2015

It is okay for women to enjoy sex and to want to enjoy sex and also to want to want to enjoy sex. Sometimes age, hormones or medicines stifle those things.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. Hey, an actual sane answer.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:46 PM
Aug 2015

I've never needed viagra, either, but I don't think it's part of some conspiracy to force erections onto people.

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