Who wants Hillary Clinton out of the race?

[Puzzledtraveller]

We all know the Republicans do but the email thing wouldn't have the legs it does just by the Republicans pushing it alone. So as an exercise, who would stand to gain if Hillary Clinton had to leave the race? It just seems to me that there is something else happening here. Benghazi is one thing and that is completely a right wing witch hunt, but I do not see a right wing only angle with the email issue. But I can't figure out what agencies, entities, or individuals would love to see her leave besides the usual suspects.

Because the bulk of this post is about the email allegations and only incidentally, the primaries I thought it would be more appropriate in GD

[GummyBearz]

1. True liberals

Who want change instead of compromise and movement to the right

[Darb]

9. A purity test?

Cool. Are you a true liberal?

[GummyBearz]

11. Everyone's mileage may vary

But I'm miles closer to one than HRC is. *cough IWR cough* ... oh was that a test question? How did she do?

[NightWatcher]

2. Somewhere there's a bunny with a pancake on his head

making more sense than this.

Oh and IBTL

[Iggo]

3. IBTL.

[hrmjustin]

4. People who want the republicans to win are the ones who want her out of the race.

[Puzzledtraveller]

7. That essentially covers it.

Because it's a damn chess game played by big money and they are waiting for their pay day.

[Tommy2Tone]

5. Lot of non-Democrats want her out

So what if the country gets taken apart by electing a Trump or Bush. It is worth it for the glory of Bernie going down but fighting the good fight.

[Puzzledtraveller]

6. I would lean to some corporate interests

having something to gain, in which when you are dealing with that kind of money they could give a shit about allegiances or what happens to the country.

[HFRN]

8. the republican ideal, I think, would be out, but as late as possible

like what John Edwards could have been (had he been the front runner), an 11th hour implosion, with no time to recover

[Senator Tankerbell]

10. I don't think anybody expects her to drop out of the race.

The corporate media loves a scandal. It helps their ratings which helps sell ads. I don't really hear regular people talking about this issue very much. Personally, I hope she stays in the race because I think she will make Bernie a stronger candidate just like she made Obama a stronger candidate.

[Puzzledtraveller]

12. Perhaps confidence in Bernie Sanders

makes it's safer for the msm to gin the email story up more than it otherwise would if? I only ask because nothing is black and white in politics and their is always someone or something pulling the strings strictly for their own gain and ideology is only a tool when you play at that level. Just a little head scratching on my part over this email story. Thanks for your civil reply also.

[karynnj]

13. Not everything has to be about the race

The Clinton emails should have been subject to the FOIA requests. I think if you look at what the various departments did, they did only what was needed to preserve their own integrity.

When it was clear that things were missing, what could the State Department do, other than push for the emails. They could have PUBLICLY disclosed that they did no have them and demand HRC provide them. As it was, note that the disclosure that she used a personal server did not surface until the State Department was given everything the Clinton team said was work related. (SHE complicated things then by demanding they all be put on line. It was a quick - see Iam not hiding anything, but it led to 12 full time people who will likely work for about a year to get it in order.)

Of course, the State IG had the charter and responsibility to investigate - and he is independent of the State Department, though he is at Kerry's request looking at what the practices on email should be department wide going forward. From the beginning, one thing that has taken in time in processing the emails is that they needed to get reviews from other departments if the message came from them. As these reviews found things that had classification issues, the IG from the intelligence community was pulled in and - like State - their job was to do what they did. As to the FBI and Justice department, they have the legal responsibility and power to do things like subpoena the server - so they had the leverage to get the Clinton team to surrender it.

Once there were valid FOIA, NOT taking these steps would have made the Obama administration - especially the State Department and the Justice Department guilty of a cover up. Frankly, I am happy that neither Kerry or Lynch went that way. This is Clinton's mess

[GummyBearz]

14. Before you pull out the personal responsibility card just remember

Some people are more equal than others in regards to responsibility

[clarice]

15. I LOVE the personal responsibility card. nt

[karynnj]

20. It goes beyond personal responsibility -

It goes to personal integrity and even legal issues. No one in the Obama administration should allow themselves to be corrupted to protect HRC.

This is especially true because there is nothing to be covered up -- so why should anyone not do their job.

[Puzzledtraveller]

16. I see your point.

The race would be a least common denominator for some conspiracy form of explanation. The situation could be quite serious for Hillary Clinton then yet I am not seeing that concern from many of my Democrat peers and I am trying to figure out why.

[6000eliot]

18. Fake scandal. Fake "mess." They couldn't because there was a law in place.

Clinton did nothing different from everyone BEFORE her.

[karynnj]

19. So, what should the State Department, intelligence community IG and the Justice Department have done

What I wrote was in response to the OP that suggested that there people in these organizations who are doing this to hurt Hillary. In fact, tell me where ANY of the actions taken were anything other than reasonable and responsible.

Note, I said nothing about scandal -- as to mess, HRC herself would likely agree as she has said in retrospect she should not have done this.

[cloudbase]

17. I don't see Hillary getting the Democratic

(and certainly not the democratic) voters energized enough to come out to the polls in numbers that will make a difference for her. On the other hand, she will certainly energize those on the right who absolutely hate anything Clinton to vote for her opponent.

[One_Life_To_Give]

21. Could be any of many who feel stepped on/slighted by her

Possibly people within State Dept. Her close advisers have been described in unflattering terms. So it's entirely possible that they have rubbed people the wrong way and some of them now see their chance at payback.

[Puzzledtraveller]

23. I never considered that but that is a good point.

[Blue_In_AK]

22. I don't want her out.

She has as much of a right to run as anyone else.