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Has any ex-president ever been attacked (Original Post) sadoldgirl Aug 2015 OP
Note that the children of former presidents only get protection until they are 16. PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #1
Okay, I did not know that, but still sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #3
Nixon btw switched to private security he paid for himself about 10 years after resigning. PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #13
Not true. FYI, Nixon had eggs and rocks thrown at him in San Jose, 1970. One rock grazed him. ancianita Aug 2015 #17
Define "attacked". In April 1993 an assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush was stevenleser Aug 2015 #2
However. nobody threatened him in the US, sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #5
Clinton hate has no bounds. onehandle Aug 2015 #4
This board is unbelievable... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #8
You are off the boat. I do believe that sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #11
Currently 573 candidates have filed FEC papaperwork to run for President Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #20
If a candidate requests it and the "evidence" warrants, he/she will get Secret Service protection... George II Aug 2015 #23
times have changed through the last hundred years .without protection JI7 Aug 2015 #6
The IRA and The Red Brigade kidnapped and murdered some high ranking European leaders... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #10
You think Obama would be safe? Hekate Aug 2015 #7
"I don't know of such an event" - maybe BECAUSE they have Secret Service protection? George II Aug 2015 #9
do you really think it is a good idea to have former Presidents dsc Aug 2015 #12
George H W Bush and Homer Simpson had a dusting up Brother Buzz Aug 2015 #14
Just because we haven't been informed of any incidents ... lpbk2713 Aug 2015 #15
Alright. I suppose I stand rebuffed, sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #16
Two bad choices there for your example herding cats Aug 2015 #26
No need to apologize. Other people have had that question. pnwmom Aug 2015 #30
What exactly is the point of this post? 6000eliot Aug 2015 #18
Yes, a bit, because I think that sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #19
There always someone out there that wants infamy. Historic NY Aug 2015 #21
We pay because we are not too cheap to provide it as a courtesy. CBGLuthier Aug 2015 #22
TR was shot in 1912 while campaigning for a third term. He had been out of office since 1909.. Princess Turandot Aug 2015 #24
I can agree with that sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #25
Compliments to you, sadoldgirl, for listening to others and making adjustments. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2015 #27
Ted Kennedy worried about his protection, having had two brothers assassinated, Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #28
So, because the SS has successfully prevented attacks, that proves they are unnecessary? pnwmom Aug 2015 #29

ancianita

(36,109 posts)
17. Not true. FYI, Nixon had eggs and rocks thrown at him in San Jose, 1970. One rock grazed him.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:11 PM
Aug 2015

He denounced the rioters as "violent thugs" representative of "the worst in America."




sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
11. You are off the boat. I do believe that
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:00 PM
Aug 2015

HRC should have the protection, but I think so should
all the other candidates as well.

Everybody, who is a candidate for the presidency
should get it. I remember too well, what happened
to Bobby K., and I don't want that to happen to
anyone. There was candidate G. Wallace as well.

This campaign reminds me in so many ways of it.
The question is about former presidents though, because
I believe that they are in far less danger than any
candidate.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
20. Currently 573 candidates have filed FEC papaperwork to run for President
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:24 PM
Aug 2015

Should they all get secret service protection?

Your post is nonsensical.

http://www.fec.gov/press/resources/2016presidential_form2dt.shtml

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. If a candidate requests it and the "evidence" warrants, he/she will get Secret Service protection...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:30 PM
Aug 2015

...remember, Obama in 2007 received lots of death threats, and he received protection very early in the campaign.

But it's not a given, left to the whim of the candidate.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
6. times have changed through the last hundred years .without protection
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:55 PM
Aug 2015

I think some could easily be attacked.

Obama for sure would be.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. The IRA and The Red Brigade kidnapped and murdered some high ranking European leaders...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:59 PM
Aug 2015

The IRA blew Lord Mountbatten to bits...


dsc

(52,164 posts)
12. do you really think it is a good idea to have former Presidents
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:01 PM
Aug 2015

unprotected? Especially fairly recent ones? BTW do you think Obama will ever be able to be unprotected without some risk of being attacked?

lpbk2713

(42,760 posts)
15. Just because we haven't been informed of any incidents ...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:03 PM
Aug 2015



directed at any former presidents or their immediate families doesn't mean
there have been none at all. The SS can probably manage security better
if they keep what they can on a low profile.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
16. Alright. I suppose I stand rebuffed,
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:10 PM
Aug 2015

it was just a question, which occurred to me,
because I don't think that Carter or HWBush
are really in danger at their age.

Sorry, I did not mean to offend anyone.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
26. Two bad choices there for your example
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:07 PM
Aug 2015

Carter and H. W. Bush are both deeply hated by fanatics. Both without protection would be likely victims of attacks, even in their current states of health and at their ages. Hate such as that knows no social bounds.

I'm not offended. I'm politely pointing out how naive your stance is in relation to the reality of the depth of hate out there.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
30. No need to apologize. Other people have had that question.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:51 PM
Aug 2015

We know you weren't trying to offend anyone.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
19. Yes, a bit, because I think that
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:23 PM
Aug 2015

the candidates (and of course the POTUS in power) need it
much more than older former presidents, who might also
want more privacy.

Obviously I was wrong in my assumption, okay?

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
22. We pay because we are not too cheap to provide it as a courtesy.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:26 PM
Aug 2015

I am quite certain that the former and the current president ahve people who will wish them harm until the day they die and then try to piss on their graves.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
24. TR was shot in 1912 while campaigning for a third term. He had been out of office since 1909..
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:36 PM
Aug 2015
"Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose."


He lost the election but gained a permanent rib adornment!

Relative to the topic, I think POTUS/FLOTUS should have life-long protection, especially nowadays when the internet makes determining where they are/what they are doing much easier.


Assassination attempt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt#Assassination_attempt)

The bullet-damaged speech and eyeglass case on display at the Theodore Roosevelt Birthplace
On October 14, 1912, while campaigning in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Roosevelt was shot by a saloonkeeper named John Flammang Schrank, but the bullet lodged in his chest only after penetrating his steel eyeglass case and passing through a thick (50 pages) single-folded copy of the speech he was carrying in his jacket. Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he was not coughing blood, the bullet had not completely penetrated the chest wall to his lung, and he declined suggestions to go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt. He spoke for 90 minutes. His opening comments to the gathered crowd were, "Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose." Afterwards, probes and an x-ray showed that the bullet had lodged in Roosevelt's chest muscle, but did not penetrate the pleura, and it would be less dangerous to leave it in place. Roosevelt carried the bullet with him for the rest of his life.


sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
25. I can agree with that
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:03 PM
Aug 2015

The problem for me was that we seem to give candidates
less protection than the elder statesmen.

Example: Jeb is the 3rd Bush, there are lots of Bush
haters around. If he gets shot (not even killed) he will
become a martyr and the next president will be
definitely a conservative.

sorry, but the images from the past came back. I
don't think that Nixon would have won necessarily
with Wallace still healthy and belligerent.

JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
27. Compliments to you, sadoldgirl, for listening to others and making adjustments.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:43 PM
Aug 2015

That's rare and especially refreshing during this 24 hours on DU!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. Ted Kennedy worried about his protection, having had two brothers assassinated,
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:44 PM
Aug 2015

He would use different routes to work to prevent a pattern, he did not get SS protection.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
29. So, because the SS has successfully prevented attacks, that proves they are unnecessary?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:47 PM
Aug 2015

No, it does not.

An ex-President would be a logical target of terrorists who wanted to threaten the country and put it in turmoil. Imagine how we would feel if Obama was kidnapped and held for some kind of demands.

It is only fair and prudent that we protect them.

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