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Fidel is 89 today (Original Post) malaise Aug 2015 OP
it's about time. should have DesertFlower Aug 2015 #1
Well what was he supposed to do? Yupster Aug 2015 #2
don't you think it had more to do DesertFlower Aug 2015 #3
Maybe has something to do with good Cuban doctors Yupster Aug 2015 #5
i was talking about reopening the embassy. DesertFlower Aug 2015 #11
Oh, that's very different Yupster Aug 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Zorra Aug 2015 #4
And you too? He put gay people in forced labor camps. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #15
Thank you for the education. Zorra Aug 2015 #19
89 years too many ericson00 Aug 2015 #6
That's not even close to historically accurate. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #9
Those regimes are gone, Castro is still around ericson00 Aug 2015 #10
Okay-how about "one of the most CONSISTENTLY repressive regimes..."? brooklynite Aug 2015 #16
Absolute BS n/t malaise Aug 2015 #13
He won U4ikLefty Aug 2015 #7
Happy birthday. And he was hangin' with Evo and Maduro. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #8
"I'll dance on your grave." nt bemildred Aug 2015 #12
He put my people in forced labor camps. Of course that's fine by you. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #14
Richard Blanco to read poem at U.S. Embassy in Cuba reopening bemildred Aug 2015 #17
People here have supported Mugabe and Putin. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #20

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
2. Well what was he supposed to do?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:33 PM
Aug 2015

Even the Commandante can't speed up time.

It took him 89 years to reach age 89 just like anyone else.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
5. Maybe has something to do with good Cuban doctors
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:17 PM
Aug 2015

and the health benefits of cigars.

I don't think the US had anything to do with Fidel turning 89. In fact we tried our best that he wouldn't.

Response to malaise (Original post)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. And you too? He put gay people in forced labor camps.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:00 AM
Aug 2015

This month is sure making things clear around here again. Fuck. Prison camps.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
19. Thank you for the education.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:30 PM
Aug 2015

Being of several minorities, I try to make some allowances for historical time periods and cultures, because I don't want to be burdened with useless enmity towards a great many people.

I try to cut slack when appropriate, no one is perfect.

If there is any group of people that persecuted, oppressed, enslaved, and murdered my ancestors far more than any other, it would be the English, led by their sociopathic, greedy, bloodthirsty imperialist royalty. I struggle with this, but know that all English people are not responsible for the sins of their royalty, government, officials, slavers, and general scoundrels.

In the case of Castro and LGBT, I did a fair amount of research after I read your post, and there are no excuses for what he did. He's directly responsible, he knows he is responsible, and no matter how sorry he may be now, he will be taking these horrors to his grave with him. I can't really cut him any slack.

I sincerely appreciate your information, directness, and candor.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
9. That's not even close to historically accurate.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:01 AM
Aug 2015

In that time since the Cuban Revolution, we saw:

The rightist Argentine military juntas who killed tens of thousands.

The rightist Chilean military juntas who killed tens of thousands.

The rightist Salvadoran military and civilian governments supported by the US whose death squads murdered American nuns and thousands of Salvadorans.

The rightist Guatemalan military regime of Rios Montt that committed acts of genocide against the Mayan population to the tune of several hundred thousand.

And then there's the Colombian "democratic" state--again supported by the US--whose army murdered thousands of civilians, dressed them in military uniforms, and claimed to have killed them in combat.

And that's just off the top of my head.

Cuba has a relative handful of political prisoners, some restrictions on free association and free expression we don't have, and a one-party state.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
10. Those regimes are gone, Castro is still around
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:04 AM
Aug 2015

I was referring to the present tense. Also, as bad as the Contra were, the Sandinistas were no better. Outside of the US, "left" and "right" really don't mean too much.

Freedom House agrees with me that Cuba is a brutal vile oppressive communist dictatorship.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. He put my people in forced labor camps. Of course that's fine by you.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:58 AM
Aug 2015

He put us in labor camps. He made us prisoners. You celebrate him. Wow.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
17. Richard Blanco to read poem at U.S. Embassy in Cuba reopening
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:59 AM
Aug 2015

A gay Cuban American poet who took part in President Obama’s second inauguration will take part in Friday’s ceremony at the U.S. Embassy in Cuba where the American flag will be raised.

Richard Blanco will recite a new poem during the ceremony that will mark the official reopening of the U.S. embassy along Havana’s oceanfront promenade that overlooks the Florida Straits.

Blanco told the Washington Blade on Wednesday during a telephone interview that the poem’s inspiration comes from Cuba’s geographic proximity to the U.S. The gay Cuban American poet who lives in Maine added it will also contain a “very human-based, centered theme” that stresses “healing” between the two countries.

“My inspiration is thinking about 90 miles separating the two countries and the two people,” Blanco told the Blade. “90 miles is the sea between us.”

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/08/12/richard-blanco-to-read-poem-at-u-s-embassy-in-cuba-reopening/

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
20. People here have supported Mugabe and Putin.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 11:31 PM
Aug 2015

What's one more repressive homophobe? All that matters is that he's a thorn in the West's side.

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