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Shortly before my 70th birthday last month, a limb on the huge maple tree in my front yard succumbed to wind from a thunderstorm. Still hinged to the tree trunk at its base, it fell slowly onto my roof. It didn't damage the roof, but there it was.
Not a huge limb, and just 8" in diameter where it met the trunk.
I have a chainsaw. I have ladders. I have ropes. I looked at the limb and plotted how to remove it. Where it was still attached to the trunk was about 15 feet above the ground. I thought about it. I guessed its weight and considered what stresses there were that might cause problems. I planned the cuts and figured out where to lash up the big end to control its weight.
Then I remembered that I'd be 70 years old in a couple of days. I went inside and called a tree service. Due to lots of wind damage, they couldn't come until today. No problem. It couldn't fall any farther and there was no roof damage.
So, this morning, three young guys with a big chipper and a truck with a cherry-picker basket showed up. After a short setup, they got to work. 10 minutes later, the limb was off my roof and reduced to chips in their truck. I wrote a modest check, thanked them and watched them drive off.
Sometimes, after due consideration, old guys make smart decisions. 20 years ago, I would have just gone up the ladder and done that job myself. No problem. Not now. I'm slower, not as strong, and have slower reaction time. Let the young guys do it. They need the work.
Things change. Things always change.
dhill926
(16,349 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Yeah... I would have called the tree service before age 50, much less age 70.
You did the right thing.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)So does my wife!
malaise
(269,087 posts)of our youth at the appropriate time.
You're a wise man.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)That's always a good thing.
4lbs
(6,858 posts)the roof to repair some shingles that had loosened after a serious rainstorm. He fell off, and broke his hip and a few ribs.
He never fully recovered, and ended up suffering from multiple medical conditions which had him taking various medications.
He died almost 4 years later. All stemming from the fall.
If he would have simply hired some roofers to repair the roof, he likely would have lived another 15 to 20 years.
$400 for the roofers, versus $35000 in medical bills.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)The older I get, the more careful I become about situations that could cause a fall.
arikara
(5,562 posts)Actually, the aluminum ladder buckled on him, they obviously don't make them like they used to. Thankfully the ground was soft and he only scraped his leg. Even that didn't make him stop, he got a bigger ladder and went up again to finish the job. Sometimes I really wonder about his sanity.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)malaise
(269,087 posts)but after a certain age we prioritize what we want to remember.
Ain't it the truth?
malaise
(269,087 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)To heck with that, and I'm only 45.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)but it's best left to younger folks, I think.
elias49
(4,259 posts)I have a big, BIG silver maple in my front yard that makes me anxious whenever there's a storm.
So far, so good.
Many more years to you!
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)Limb droppers, for sure.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)the shingles and it's very, very painful. In fact, very, very, very painful. I got mine after taking care of him. That goes for all you du'ers over 50 who had the chicken pox when young.
Google and read up on it.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)I very very rarely get sick and have a high pain tolerance but about 10ish years ago I got shingles and holy mama that was bad! The pain was in the upper left quarter of my face, down around my eye and down along my nose. I didn't know what the heck was going on and when I went to urgent care (it was on the weekend) the stupid dr or whatever he was, said I had an eye infection--even though my eye was not red, weepy, or anything else--just over the top pain around it. Gave me some antibiotics and nothing for the excruciating pain. Went back the next day and got correctly diagnosed but they gave me vicodin, which I found out when I got to my regular dr on Monday, does nothing for nerve pain. Once I got on the correct meds I was pretty lucky and it only lasted about a week more. I know some people have it for months and are left with bad scars.
But I ALWAYS recommend to people GET THE SHINGLES SHOT!!!! My dr did say that it is not a guarantee that you won't get it, but if you do it will cut down on the severity a lot. And I did get the shot even after having shingles. Dr said that it's recommended again after 5 or 6 years.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)I don't ever want to go through that again...I'm going to insist.
catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)The one I go to said it was up to me. She had looked into it and said that what she found said after 5-6 years it would be useful to get the shot because you can get Shingles again, just not in the same place as the first time. That was enough for me. I never want to go through that again. I think if it started I would realize what it is and would head straight to the dr and demand the correct meds next time.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)He missed, I didn't.
I had hoped the 911 to the younger cops would have stopped him,, but no, I had to do it...
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Into the depths of sorrow, pain, living, dying and now.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Waxing the boat myself is fine but I'm sore for two days afterwards now.
I pay for younger ones to do it now. They appreciate the money and work. I'm not sore.
win/win.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)I'll (only) be 67 next week. I hadn't ever broken a bone in my life until 3 years ago, when I fell and broke three ribs. Not fun at all. It took 3 months to get back to normal.
Then last November, I fell over backwards in my garage, my head hit the bumper of my truck on the way down, and slammed my head/neck forward. I broke my collarbone rather severely (with my freakin' CHIN, for god's sake), and now, 9 months and dozens of x-rays, CT scans and MRIs later, I am still having issues with my neck and clavicle.
Our bones don't heal as well or as fast as they used to. I don't climb anymore, Like you, I will watch some young stud with the right equipment and better healing ability have at it.
Hekate
(90,734 posts)spanone
(135,851 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)ground, but I hear ya about cutting up in trees.
When I was younger - and stupid- I actually took numerous large white pines (2') down piece by piece, tying myself to the trunk because as each chunk fell it nearly knocked my footing as it hit the section below...
It a wonder we survived some of the crazy dumb things we did...
Stay safe out there.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)I'll save my chainsaw for cutting small brush, now. I'm not going up on trees or roofs anymore.
mike dub
(541 posts)As a homeowner as well, I always find that the moment I wonder: should I call a tree service, or an electrician, about the problem ? (Dead tree near the house / need arc fault circuit interrupter installed in the breaker panel) is the moment at which I realize, by having simply asked myself the question, the answer is Affirmative !
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I know how easily you could break bones after a fall since they become brittle with age.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)needs to get the opportunity to learn anyhow.
1monster
(11,012 posts)My DH is 68 and has Parkinson's. The decks around our house are in serious need of replacement, but for some reason, the contractors I called either never showed up or said they couldn't start work until October.
So one bright morning, DH went outside and began tearing up the entrance deck. He got about half way done (which revealed that the framing needed to be replaced too) and ran out of steam. He insisted that he can do the job, but it is obvious that he can't. So I called a contractor in the next city on Friday.
I hadn't received a call back by Monday afternoon, so on Tueday, DH was at it again. What remains of my deck is now hazardous.
I called the next city contractor again and he came out Tuesday afternoon. I'm still awaiting his bid.
Meanwhile, I'm really afraid I'm going to take a nasty fall out there. (I ain't no spring chicken anymore, myself.)
I commend you for recognizing that no matter how sharp the brain, how youthful the attitude, the body does slow down and get more fragile with age. The young whippersnappers can do the work. You can put your feet up and know the job was done as well as you would have done... And no aches and pains for it.
sandpan
(34 posts)About 5 years ago I was standing on the top step of an aluminum ladder, cleaning out the rain gutters. I had always cleaned my rain gutters, every year, for the previous 20 years. Suddenly the ladder started to give way, time slowed down so I was able to kick the ladder away. I held on the rain gutter for a few seconds so to make sure I fell on my side. As soon as I landed, I stood up, ran inside and pulled down my pants to check out the damage. Just a huge bruise on my calf because my leg landed on the step. The bruise did not go away for almost a year. Oh yeah, I turned 66 last month. Now my daughter comes over to clean the gutters.
1monster
(11,012 posts)MineralMan
(146,318 posts)Too many times up the ladder to dig maple leaves or seeds out of the things. Eventually, I'm sure I'd have fallen. Now, they stay clear of debris.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)That is the way I read it.
Not a guy, but..
Sometimes, after due consideration, old guys make smart decisions. 20 years ago, I would have just gone up the ladder and done that job myself. No problem. Not now. I'm slower, not as strong, and have slower reaction time. Let the young guys do it. They need the work.20 years ago I would have stormed the castle.
Today I work towards getting results that are forward
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)But, it wasn't my intention to write one in this case. If you find a parable in there, though, you're more than welcome to it.
byronius
(7,396 posts)Or phaser?
Harry Truman's father died during a failed attempt to dig out an impossible boulder in the road he had contracted to work on. Harry always took it as a sign that he should know when to pack it in -- not that he followed that wisdom much.
I'm not going down! I still got it! Oh wait, Darwin's calling --
a kennedy
(29,680 posts)and we can't afford to pay the neighborhood kids much.
Fluothane
(32 posts)You are much wiser than my neighbor. He is a retired Baptist minister who is quite the daredevil. I got home from work the other day during a light rain shower. He was on his roof with an extension saw trying to cut a small limb down that was hanging over his house. The dude was actually jumping up and down trying to saw the damn thing apart. I asked him if he was trying to go meet Jesus. He looked at me completely confused and asked what the hell I was talking about. I just went inside thinking there was nothing left for me to do.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)as long as you've got the $$ to pay others to do it.
Those that don't either keep doing it themselves, or it doesn't get done.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)to not work. So, it's Hobson's choice a lot of times. A fall, or worse, would be a big blow.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)So some I still do myself, and some just doesn't get done. Picking and choosing what to get done and what to leave until next year has become business as usual.
I can still haul and split wood. I can't fix the roof. I paid someone to fix a broken water line outside, but am trying to fix the broken pipe under the kitchen sink myself.
I no longer stack my own hay, but I still manage to haul single bales around myself. Downed trees stay where they fall until I pay someone with a better chain saw to cut them up.
Snow doesn't get shoveled; I tromp through it, and after a few days, I've created a path. My 4wd tacoma is high profile enough to do the same down the long driveway, so I can get in and out.
I can get my son and grandson to help with heavier things sometimes, but I've got them focused on helping my mom, 50 miles in the other direction, in their free time.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)I still do the snow removal. But I have a good snowblower, and that's not a lot of work. There's not much hand shoveling needed, and I can do that, too without problems.
Big jobs, though, are right out. The last one I did was a chain link fence around my back yard last year. Digging post holes isn't my favorite thing to do, but I did them a couple at a time until they were all done. My neighbor pitched in on the actual fence fabric work, but isn't all that skilled at most things, so I did all the stuff that matters in fence building. The project turned out fine, but I doubt I'll take on anything of that scale again.
I've quit working on cars, too. We finally decided to buy a brand new one because of the warranty. Getting up after working under a car for a while is not so easy these days. Oh, well...
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Good on you, MM!
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)But, there it is.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)......."I don't mind growing old so much when I consider the alternative." I understand what he meant more all the time.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)It's all a matter of balancing benefits against risks. The older you get, the more the risks become the main thing, I guess.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)is safer.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)Everyone is different, of course. It's a matter of assessing your own capabilities at any age and staying in a safe zone when making decisions of what to do yourself and what to farm out.
At 60, I'd probably have done that limb removal myself, with a neighbor helping with the non-dangerous stuff. I know how to do it safely, and have done similar jobs many times in the past. At 70, though, I shouldn't.
My wife and I moved from California to Minnesota when I was 59. I loaded the moving truck myself and did all of the work on our CA home before we put it on the market. But, when we got here, I hired three moving crew guys to unload the truck and move everything into our new home. I spent a month loading it before the move. It took them three hours to empty it and bring everything in.
We actually bought a 24' moving truck, used, from UHaul for the move. I sold it here, after we were moved in, to someone else who was doing a cross-country move on their own. Life's a fun trip.
malaise
(269,087 posts)All the data suggests that if we fall after a certain age it is much harder to heal.
I'm going with the data
trof
(54,256 posts)I'm 74.
We needed to replace a toilet.
I've done that myself 3 or 4 times over the years.
This time I called a plumber.
It was worth every nickle.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)probably hire someone. I HATE that job with a burning passion.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)He bought himself an old truck and his parents make him pay for all the expenses. I can get him and his friends to do almost anything for money but I do draw the line at chainsaws. Although all these kids have grown up on farms and can use them. I call the tree co for tree work.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)and safe use requires training and experience. Most young folks don't have enough of either, really. If you're hiring kids to do casual work, it's important to only have them do things that aren't particularly dangerous. Your liability if they are injured is real.
Tree work, especially, can be very dangerous. I've done a good deal of it in my lifetime, and am pretty good at assessing most tree work. You're right to insist on a professional tree service for it. They're insured and reputable companies have workman's comp insurance on their employees and train them properly. They have the right equipment, the right skills and there's someone with significant experience on every job.
Still, hiring young people on a freelance basis to do many jobs is a great idea. It requires some supervision and maybe a little training for them for things they haven't done before, but it's a good thing to do and helps them earn money and build self-confidence. I've done it many times, usually to assist me on jobs I know how to do. It's a great opportunity to help them learn while earning some money.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)and physically this old not-gray-yet mare just ain't what she used to be.
This reminds me of a story about my great-uncle, who was found up on his roof fixing something (loose shingle, I think) when some family members dropped by to visit. He was in his nineties, lived alone in the house he and his late wife raised their family in. He still did all the work around the house, needed no care of any sort -- and seldom, if ever went to the doctor. He lived until he was 96, all of his siblings living well into their ninth decade.
As a child, I used to visit my paternal greatgrandmother, who was in her nineties and lived with her brother, also in his nineties. Their spouses had died years previously.
I can only hope to do half as well.