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(269,087 posts)he's had 90 meaningful years. I just wish him peace and no pain.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)He is a great man.
malaise
(269,087 posts)I know it has traveled and at his age it is horrific news.
Yes it's a hopeful wish
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)this wasn't one of your better ones.
malaise
(269,087 posts)I am one of Jimmy Carter's biggest fans on this MB for close to 11 years.
What he has given to humanity for 90 years cannot be easily measured.
The harsh truth is that we are all going to die and I hope I can be as healthy as he was for 90 years. That's my only point.
The husband of one of our closest friends literally fell on his face stone cold dead at 59 from a heart attack - he didn't even have a few seconds to attempt to stop that drop.
I wish Jimmy Carter peace and no pain - sure it's probably not possible.
Sometimes I think that cultural differences lead to different interpretations. Peace.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I watched my boss die one morning, dropped like a stone to the asphalt right in front of me, dead before he hit the ground. A shocking and sudden end that still haunts his family.
Moments to reflect, to say goodbye, to give others time to thank you for your life and for what you've given them -- I hope to have those things when my time comes.
malaise
(269,087 posts)We're still in shock. I have mixed feelings - for those I leave behind I'd like those things - for me - in my sleep is my dream - either way I do not intend to do the horrific pain and suffering.
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)Drop me like the stone.
Time to reflect is time to lie in terror that ativan cannot ever really take away. Time to give others to thank you is time to watch them watching you slip away, time to watch them feel helpless to rescue you when you cannot be saved. Time to ponder the mundane failures of the organic machine you are trapped within.
Drop me like the stone.
Your boss, in that moment at least, I would call fortunate.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Of what?
You have the time to do that when you are perfectly healthy too.
One of the reasons why religion gets a hold on people is that "terror of death".
I don't want to die, but I'm certain I will. It may happen any minute for any number of reasons.
Coming to peace with that obvious and unavoidable fact is something that can be done, even if one doesn't have a terminal disease of some kind.
I mean, one might as well reflect in terror that it could happen today, tomorrow, or next week.
Fear of death is a terrible way to live, sick or not.
malaise
(269,087 posts)Fear of death is a terrible way to live, sick or not.
It's like you mustn't mention the possibility of dying for fear of the obvious - we will all die.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)1939
(1,683 posts)Always tells me that the only people who don't get cancer are those who die first from something else. Thanks a lot, son-in-law, as I am 76. Malaise is right on this one. While we may not be happy to lose President Carter, in some way or another, he is going to go.
malaise
(269,087 posts)Sadly
And I do hate the thought of losing President Carter.
vankuria
(904 posts)My mom and dad both lived into their 90's and neither died from cancer. Also had 2 aunts one was 99 and the other was 101, neither died from cancer. I'm hoping those good genes get passed down.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)I lost my mom to cancer over a year. And my brother last year at 51 to a sudden heart attack.
The heart attack was/still is beyond awful.
malaise
(269,087 posts)51 is young - damn!
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)heat of the moment - thought it meant: he's old already who cares. I don't know you and I apologize.
malaise
(269,087 posts)We all care - Carter is loved by many of us.
This was my OP for his 69th wedding anniversary last month
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026948115
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)malaise has always been a Carter fan, she acknowledged his contributions and wished him no pain.
A fine tribute by Malaise, and one that I echo.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Let's hold off on burying him.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)but not now my brain's fried. i'm probably wrong but it wouldn't be the first or last time.
malaise
(269,087 posts)We're all upset with this bad news
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)lots of death in my family. I misinterpreted Malaise's post and I apologize. It's just that with all the evil asshats who think they can be president.... we need a lot more like Jimmy Carter.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I agree with your sentiment.
People are really weird about mortality. Most of us posting here are not going to live to 90.
That doesn't make anyone's passing somehow less sad, but it is the one thing we all know for certain we are going to do.
malaise
(269,087 posts)Everything that lives will die. Not accepting that fact does not change it.
You are 100% correct - people are really weird about mortality.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Carter could, theoretically, live another 30 years.
Are we so out of touch with how much time that is? That's literally 3/4ths of my life.
Have we simply accepted ageist philosophy?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)He has been diagnosed with metastatic liver cancer.
I hope he finds joy and love in his last days.
malaise
(269,087 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)...That's a great wish. It is the wish I'm making tonight for my younger brother who also has metastasizing stage IV. Tomorrow I will sign his hospice papers so they can more closely control his pain and honor his end of life wishes. Maybe we should work harder to accept death as something to be faced rather than avoided.
malaise
(269,087 posts)Sure a few lucky ones may die in their sleep or on the operating table, but those are the rare ones.
Hug your brother - we lost our youngest sister to cancer ten years ago.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I hope he can have a dignified end with as little pain as possible. I lost my Dad to cancer when he was 71. That was 15 years ago... Still hurts.
malaise
(269,087 posts)She was 48 and yes it still hurts.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)48.... Wow.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He's still living it.
Most everyone on this thread has him in the grave already.
I'm glad he most likely doesn't read DU.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)He has lived a great life and made a mark on this world. Now it is time to pass on. Hopefully he is ready to move on, and does so peacefully and with minimal pain.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)and continue his work.
He may succeed, and he may not, but I won't bury him before he's dead.
It will be time to pass on when it is. And not before.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)He has the same diagnosis my Dad had (who died within 4 months), and the mortality rate is very high. I wish him the best of luck.
otherone
(973 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)A very brave officer of the United States Navy, Lt. James Earle Carter, Jr., personally led the effort to shut down a reactor in meltdown.
Jimmy Carter and Fukushima
Apr 2nd 2011, 11:42 by K.N.C. | TOKYO
The Economist
EXCERPT...
The fear and danger is beyond comprehension for most people, and in particular the political leaders who must order men in to danger. But interestingly, it is not unfamiliar to former American president Jimmy Carter. Nearly half a century ago, as a young naval officer, he led a 23-man team to dismantle a reactor that, like Fukushima, had partially melted down.
The reactor in Chalk River, Canada, about 180 kilometres (110 miles) from Ottawa, was used to enrich plutonium for America's atomic bombs. On December 12th 1952 it exploded, flooding the reactor buildings basement with millions of litres of radioactive water. Lieutenant Carter, a nuclear specialist on the Seawolf submarine programme, and his men were among the few people with the security clearance to enter a reactor. From Schenectady, New York, they rode the train up and got straight to work.
"The radiation intensity meant that each person could spend only about ninety seconds at the hot core location," wrote Mr Carter in "Why Not the Best?", an autobiography published in 1975 when he was campaigning for the presidency.
The team built an exact replica of the reactor on a nearby tennis court, and had cameras monitor the actual damage in the reactor's core. "When it was our time to work, a team of three of us practised several times on the mock-up, to be sure we had the correct tools and knew exactly how to use them. Finally, outfitted with white protective clothes, we descended into the reactor and worked frantically for our allotted time," he wrote. "Each time our men managed to remove a bolt or fitting from the core, the equivalent piece was removed on the mock-up."
SNIP...
In 2008, when Mr Carter was 83, he was asked if he had been scared. The former president grew quiet and, speaking very deliberately, replied: "We were fairly well instructed then on what nuclear power was, but for about six months after that I had radioactivity in my urine. They let us get probably a thousand times more radiation than they would now. It was in the early stages and they didn't know." The account, from Arthur Milnes, a journalist and historian at Queen's University in Canada, appears in a book published last month, "Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter: A Canadian Tribute" (McGill-Queen's University Press, 2011). "I learned the dangers," said Mr Carter.
People close to Mr Carter credit his Chalk River experience for his decision not to develop a neutron bomb and to restrict plutonium enrichment to prevent nuclear proliferation. And it is considered one of the principal reasons he took quick, precautionary actions during the Three Mile Island reactor crisis, which occurred two years into his presidency. As for the Chalk River disaster itself, some of today's reactor safety features came out of the incident, such as a system for independent, fast shutdowns that is separate from the regular reactor controls.
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http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/04/japans_nuclear_clean-up