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RandySF

(59,078 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:38 AM Aug 2015

Let's Not Get Carried Away With The Megyn Kelly Lovefest

Even better was the question Kelly asked Walker about his abortion policies. You might expect Fox News moderators to allow Republican candidates to sidestep their least popular views on the subject. To her credit, Kelly asked Walker to defend his position that bans on abortion should not even contain exemptions for the life of the mother—making the laws even more restrictive than they were in most states before Roe v. Wade—observing that Walker’s position was opposed by 83 percent of the public.

Given that the abortion debate is so often conducted on terrain Republicans would prefer, and not just on Fox News, this question was a welcome surprise and yielded important information about one of the Republican frontrunners, who confirmed his radical views.

But before we get carried away praising Kelly and the other moderators, we should keep a couple of things in mind. First of all, even if Kelly is a good journalist and asked some good questions last night, she has some views that are nutty enough that Trump would sign for them. In particular, she has expressed consistently bizarre and retrograde views on race: obsessing over the utterly irrelevant New Black Panthers as if Richard Nixon was still in the White House, defending the racist emails sent by police officers in Ferguson as normal, and insisting that the fictional Santa Claus “just is” white. Not to mention her willfully misleading attacks on Black Lives Matter.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/megyn-kelly-moderators-fox-news-debate

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Skittles

(153,171 posts)
1. I.....er.....who the fuck thinks she is a good journalist?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:55 AM
Aug 2015

why would a good journalist work for a propaganda organization?

JI7

(89,260 posts)
2. you know what's fucked up ? if it was only rosie o'donnell he had said those disgusting things to
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:14 AM
Aug 2015

people would be just ok with it and compliment on his humor.

Uncle Joe

(58,386 posts)
3. Regardless of her current questions, she will line up in lockstep with the rest of FOX "News"
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:25 AM
Aug 2015

behind the eventual Republican nominee.

Thanks for the thread, RandySF.

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
5. I don't think she came up with those questions
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:45 AM
Aug 2015

on her own. Everything had to be approved by Fox News beforehand.

It was probably considered normal by TBTB at Fox for the woman to be the one to ask about abortion.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. I will give her props as a bright and talented woman
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:32 AM
Aug 2015

And as a good lawyer. And for her independence in sometimes going against Fox views,

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. I was very surprised about her tone on that abortion question. It was full of sarcasm
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:14 AM
Aug 2015

Almost like she was mocking anyone who believed in no life of mother exemption. Think she said 81 or 81% of the people are for the exemption. Then Walker says something like "a lot of people think the way I do." which was totally crazy after she just quoted the stats.

Whether it was Kelly or Fox - I was surprised at the lack of softball questions. It was almost like they did such a good job - they hurt their own (?) party,

niyad

(113,498 posts)
10. she works for faux snooze, therefore, by definition, she is not a journalist, but a propogandist.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:17 PM
Aug 2015

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
11. To me, it's not so much about Kelly, it's about Trump's treatment of and language about women
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:41 PM
Aug 2015

You will note he didn't call Chris Wallace or Bret Baier any names and those two asked the 'will you run third party' and 'prove that the mexican government is sending rapists and murders' questions, which were just as inflamatory.

You don't see Trump going after them do you?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Trump talked to her like she was one of his interns and the audience loved it.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:50 PM
Aug 2015

Women need to remember that they (according to every republican 'God fearing' white man) are STILL second class people even on Foxnews and even if they are the star of the entire circus. That didn't change at the debate and won't change since it is a core part of the GOP.

I was surprised at some of the questions asked, I figured it would just be Softball Central.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
14. I don't necessarily see it as a Megyn Kelly lovefest.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:01 PM
Aug 2015

Having no real love for Kelly herself.

Rather, it's about the extent of Trump's bizarre behavior and egomania.

In a very shallow and superficial manner, he goes after a high profile personality on a news network that has given him considerable air time to spew his views. All because she dared to ask him a question that--love Kelly or hate her--was actually a valid one (an astonishing accomplishment for Fox News): Why are you so rude and nasty to people you feel have crossed you, especially women?

And what we got from Trump in his bleeding comments perfectly illustrated the basis in which that question ought to have been asked. It also revealed the underlying twisted psychology of the man: Rather than brush off the question as not a big deal, he went on a Twitter diatribe against Kelly and then insinuated she was on her period. And only after that, he then demands that people ask him questions about the issues and not his personality conflicts.

Even more bizarre is the reaction from his supporters, many of them who were avid fans of Fox News and Kelly but literally overnight were viciously attacking the network and Kelly. Clearly the supporters he does have, he has considerable sway over them.

In every progressively atrocious example of Trump's bad behavior, I keep on expecting a Gorgan moment* from his supporters and a falling out. That still has yet to occur.

*See http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Gorgan

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
15. To paraphrase Jon Stewart: When a weasel and a mongoose go against each other. Who do you
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:07 PM
Aug 2015

root for? Needless to say, Captain hairdo did go full sexist on her. And for that he needs to be called out. But not by the same sexist assholes who even made his joke of a campaign possible. I mean they can, but it makes them look like the hypocrites they are.

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