Beeny Man begs forgiveness for lyrics calling for deaths to gays and lesbians

[malaise]

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[jberryhill]

1. Translation: "I want to make money outside my homophobic country"

Fuck him.

[Zalatix]

5. To err is human, to apologize is to grow. To never do it again is wisdom.

I'll give this guy his one strike; he did apologize.

Two, however, means he's out.

[jberryhill]

6. Zimmerman apologized too

[Zalatix]

8. Both must make restitution according to the magnitude of their deeds.

[jberryhill]

9. Magnitude...

One act of hate, versus inspiring countless others.

He still collects royalties on threatening the life of my child. I don't care what he does, really. He would be wise not to do it anywhere near me or my family.

[Zalatix]

14. Okay, I have to concede that.

By my own previously-spoken opinions regarding proximate and ultimate cause (TODAY, no less), yeah, you're right to see him as one of those who are responsible for the potential assault or murder of GLBT's around the world.

By the way I do believe Zimmerman can be rehabilitated, however that will take a hell of a lot to show that he is rehabilitated. He will need to make a great deal of restitution to society for what he has done; more, probably, than what I could conceive.

I acknowledge the logic behind your argument, too - the same magnitude of restitution would be required of Beeny Man. STARTING with, but not ending with, surrendering all the royalties he gets from those hateful songs, to charity, to help undo the damage he has done.

Hell, I can't even fault you for wanting to deck him if he got near you, for the threat he has posed to your kids.

[malaise]

17. For the record he makes lots of money in the rest of the world

His comments followed Obama's acceptance of marriage equality.
If he was merely looking money from the US he might have done this ages ago.

[jberryhill]

20. Good for him

Then pardon me for not caring what he thinks about anything.

[cali]

2. I'm sorry I didn't get away with being a hateful bigot. Please buy my shit.

[johnnie]

3. People change

Of course there will always be idiots who think that something said from someone 20 years ago is the exact same thing they feel today, but ignorance is an equal opportunity personality defect.

[jberryhill]

4. Obviously no one made money threatening to kill your children

However, this piece of shit did.

No, I don't forgive him. He'll just have to go on making money without me.

Jamaica is one of the most virulently and officially gay-hating places in the Western Hemisphere. What's he doing to make amends? Oh, getting paid to perform in Spain this week, where he knows that shit won't fly.

[johnnie]

12. I don't have any children

What if he speaks out in his country and makes some changes toward their thinking, would you still hate him?

[jberryhill]

15. He can drop dead for all I care

You think some YouTube bullshit has anything to do with the effort he's put in to inspiring violence against gay people?

2004 is also not "20 years ago" and he's done this exact same shit before:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/aug/17/advertising.arts?cat=media&type=article

Earlier this month Virgin Records issued a statement from Beenie Man, which offered his "sincerest apologies to those who might have been offended, threatened or hurt by my songs".
But the following day the head of his management company in Jamaica said that the statement was "not an apology" and that the singer reserved his right to criticise "the homosexual lifestyle".

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Yeah, and BP is cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico.

It's PR bullshit.

I don't spend my time obsessing about this turd and his culture. Whenever a hurricane hits Jamaica, I am reminded to make a donation to a gay rights organization here in the states, and that's about as far as I go about caring.

[malaise]

18. So you can hate everyone in Jamaica

but Beeny Man is the hater.

Whenever a hurricane hits Jamaica, I am reminded to make a donation to a gay rights organization here in the states, and that's about as far as I go about caring.

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How different are you from Pat Robertson?

[jberryhill]

19. I don't hate them, and I don't owe them money

My family is not welcome in Jamaica, and my money does not go there.

There are a lot of people who don't get money from me. What does that have to do with hating them?

Have you given me money? No. Oh, so you are a hater?

It doesn't work that way. I do not owe Jamaica a dime. And I don't pay to "rebuild" places where I am not welcome. That would be stupid.

Besides, from the royalties he still collects from calling upon people to kill members of my family, I'm sure he can contribute more than I could anyway. So it's all good.

So all of the cruse lines, Carnival etc. which do not include Jamaica on ports of call for gay cruises, are all "haters" to you? I'm sorry, but avoiding the abuse and violence directed against gays in your country, and done so with the force of law, is simply rational behavior.

Again, I have never threatened the life of anyone in this man's family. He is one of a number of Jamaicans which have done so to mine, in keeping with the official policy of that country.

I am not a hater. I am also not stupid enough to fund such nonsense.

I'll tell you what, though, since you want to make a false equivalence... How about if I get rich telling people to kill Jamaicans for years, continue to get paid for it, and we'll see how you react to me saying, "Oops, my bad."

[Zalatix]

7. They're not idiots for holding this against him for 20 years.

Unforgiving, yes, but idiots, no.

I for one would say he could make amends by donating that money to human rights groups, or something equally as meaningful.

[johnnie]

10. Ok, "idiot" was probably the wrong word to use

I agree with your "one strike" statement and that's where I was heading. I typically give people a little room to be who they are and if they screw up and apologize that's fine with me. If they screw up again, then I'll make my judgement.

[jberryhill]

11. Here's anothe classic apology video

[johnnie]

13. And yet another

[jberryhill]

16. Bill Clinton threatened violence against your family?

Bill Clinton never owed me an apology.

The fact that you find these two things at all comparable is interesting.

So, how many people in your family were beat up or murdered or bullied because Bill Clinton encouraged people to do that?

I'll wait... Post the whole list.

[johnnie]

21. And John Belushi did what exactly to you?

The fact that you find these two things at all comparable is interesting. And how many guitars did John destroy of yours?


I'll wait... Post the whole list.

[jberryhill]

22. You seem not to understand the point

So perhaps you need it explained to you.

In the clip above, Belushi's character engages in a spontaneous and unprovoked act of destruction, and then shrugs it off with an "I'm sorry". The "apology" is entirely disingenuous, and that is the comedic value of that scene. It does nothing to address the harm he has committed.

This Beeny Baby character continues to make money from promoting violence against members of my family, and expects a few words to make it all better.

[johnnie]

23. Thanks for the explanation

Sorry about your family.