A mathematician may have uncovered widespread election fraud, and Kansas is trying to silence her

[Ichingcarpenter]

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Kansas loves them some voter fraud hysteria. From going to the Supreme Court to try and make doubly-sure that non-citizens can’t vote in their elections to setting up a voter fraud website where citizens can report every kind of voter fraud except the kinds that have actually happened in the state, Kansas is on the forefront of voter fraud readiness and protection.

Except, perhaps, when it comes to the machines they use to record their votes.

According to the Wichita Eagle, Wichita State mathematician Beth Clarkson has found irregularities in election returns from Sedgwick County, along with other counties throughout the United States, but has faced stiff opposition from the state in trying to confirm whether the irregularities are fraud or other, less-nefarious anomalies.

Analyzing election returns at a precinct level, Clarkson found that candidate support was correlated, to a statistically significant degree, with the size of the precinct. In Republican primaries, the bias has been toward the establishment candidates over tea partiers. In general elections, it has favored Republican candidates over Democrats, even when the demographics of the precincts in question suggested that the opposite should have been true.

Clarkson’s interest in election returns was piqued by a 2012 paper released by analysts Francois Choquette and James Johnson showing the same pattern of election returns, which favor establishment Republican candidates in primaries and general elections. The irregularities are isolated to precincts that use “Central Tabulator” voting machines — machines that have previously been shown to be vulnerable to hacking. The effects are significant and widespread: According to their analysis, Mitt Romney could have received over a million extra votes in the 2012 Republican primary, mostly coming at the expense of Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. President Obama also ceded significant votes to John McCain due to this irregularity, as well.

You can read the paper in full here.

http://americablog.com/2015/08/mathematician-actual-voter-fraud-kansas-republicans.html



In 2002 in Comal County in Central Texas 3 Republican candidates each won with exactly 18,181 votes. What do you think the odds are for that? Would you trust a lottery that hit the same numbers 3 weeks in a row? It gets worse. Two more Republicans in nearby states also won with exactly 18,181 votes. All five on the same type of ES&S voting machines.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/htdocs/dcforum/DCForumID12/114.html Convert the numbers to the alphabet: 18181 18181 18181 ahaha ahaha ahaha - were they laughing at us? The voting machine company Diebold also uses a voting software called GEMS version 1.81.81. More laughter? Since brothers Bob and Todd Urosevich, founded ES&S and then Bob then went to run Diebold, perhaps both companies share a sense of humor. Diebold and ES&S, together, count about 80 percent of the votes in the United States.


You remember Florida in 2000? Remember how Gore conceded for a minute? Did you know that the computerized voting machines in just one Florida county gave Gore a NEGATIVE 16,000 votes and mistakenly added 4,000 votes to Bush's totals thus giving Bush an extra 20,000 fake votes. That was why CBS called the election for Bush and was one of the reasons Gore thought he'd lost. http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/834

In Abilene, Texas the poll workers became suspicious of a lopsided vote that gave a landslide victory to a Republican, When it was checked they found the Democrat actually won by a large margin. (How many places is it never checked?) The voting machine company blamed a supposedly defective chip. When I have a defective chip my computer just stops working instead of giving me fake results.

http://www.newsgarden.org/columns/alllietrust.shtml


from the book The Dragons of Eden by Carl Sagan


"In time of rapid social change there are bound to be conspiracies, both by those in favor of change and by those defending the status quo. The latter more than the former in recent American political history. Detecting conspiracies when there are no conspiracies is a symptom of paranoia; detecting them when they exist is a sign of menial health. An acquaintance of mine says, "in America today, if you're not a little paranoid you're out of your mind."

page 190

[malaise]

1. Bradblog has been exposing this for over a decade

Voting machines are designed to rig elections for ReTHUGs.

[questionseverything]

42. bradblog has done excellent work

http://fatallyflawedelections.blogspot.com/

link above is the best documented theft of an election...it was a bond issue in az

http://www.sweetremedy.tv/fatallyflawed/media/RTA_Fraud_Flyer_3_7_12.pdf

link above is the summary of evidence

it can happen anywhere, at anytime altho some states like minnasota have good recount laws that actually look at how many people voted before the recount of a precinct begins....think of frankens victory

[billhicks76]

64. Democrats Idiots For Not Aggressively Confronting This

Thanks to the conspiracy label frightened wing of spineless coincidence theorist Democrats. Bradblog is where real democrats debate. No room for the cowardly. The facts are on our side for those who haven't noticed.

[valerief]

66. ^^^THIS^^^ Bradblog is fantastic. nt

[BradBlog]

69. Personally...

...I don't trust him.

[Kurovski]

70. Ha!

K&R

[Ichingcarpenter]

73. Thanks BRAD for all the work you do

and I like self irony

[FlatBaroque]

2. i don't know when the last, clean election in America occurred

but there certainly has not been one since 2000.

[bemildred]

4. I don't think there has ever been one.

Maybe in the beginning for a few terms, but as far back as the 1830s it was dirt and manipulation all the way.

[DFW]

37. 1976 came close.

Ever since, though, a Democrat has had to win by a near-landslide to even squeak by in many states. There is a reason Democratic voters are a majority in this country where the House of representatives and the Senate have a lopsided Republican majority.

[bemildred]

45. OK.

I think they didn't dare that one time, perhaps.

[billhicks76]

65. 1998

That's when Chuck Hagel won Nebraska Senate race with the largest margin in recorded history...where a Republican hadn't one in many decades. Did I mention he started the company ES&S Whose voting machines were used in that state and that he stepped down as President of the company during the run up to the election? Bush and a Rove took notice. McConnell their IT guy for the elections died in a small plane crash so don't try and ask him.

[HereSince1628]

3. Election theft is a real problem...

But, I hated seeing she-who-cannot-be-named identified as a patriot.

[Octafish]

85. Election Theft vs Election Fraud

EF leads to all sorts of coverage of little old former Speakers unable to vote.

ET? Nothing.

Two guys who know the diff: Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman

Hear ya, HereSince1628. BBV echoes.

[mopinko]

5. who had electronic voting in 2000?

they were punchcards. and they were hand counted by a newspaper consortium. gore did, in fact, get more votes, but not by that much.

[aggiesal]

21. The article mentions that ...

One county in Florida had computer counting and gave Gore -16000 votes.
Computers in elections have been around longer than you think.

But in early 2000's, the computers that are used in elections became
privatized. Thus not allowing us, the taxpayers, any visibility into their
private systems.

Florida even made it illegal to had re-count any ballots, if the original
count was made with a computer.

[csziggy]

23. A number of Florida counties had optical scannings systems in 2000

Those use optical scanning machines that are easily hacked if not kept secure. I know for certain that Leon and Gadsden did (and still do) and think that Hillsborough County (Tampa) did.

I like the optical scanners - you have a paper ballot that can be counted by hand and if the scanners are kept secure and programmed competently they are fast and accurate. Plus if the scanners are programmed like the ones in Leon County, any ballot that might be an under or over vote or questionable is immediately kicked out for the voter to review.

Somewhere on a CDR I have data from the 2000 election that would have what machines were used in which counties. Florida allows the county supervisors of elections to determine what method is used in their county, usually from a list of approved devices. A few counties still used lever machines in 2000, some used punch cards, some optical scanners - it varied all over the place which was part of the conflict over the recount.

The recount was stopped by the Supreme Court partially because there could be no one standard for counting valid votes since there was no one standard for casting the votes. That has not changed so it would still be a way to stop a recount if a similar situation arose.

[djean111]

6. I can't help thinking that there are some Democrats who would be bitterly disappointed if they

could no longer blame Florida and other Democrats and Nader for Bush. Lose their whipping boy.

[Stargazer99]

38. Voting should not be in the hands of private businesses

in which nothing could be examined....any idiot with half a brain could figure that out
It is the people's voting and should be transparent not in the hands of business

[Enthusiast]

54. +1! Well said!

[valerief]

67. Except the rights of the people have been dissolved. We're merely human resources

for the .01% to chew up and spit out.

[Godhumor]

7. "Patriot Bev Harris"? Really?

There are quite a few of us who remember her history here and would disagree with that vehemently.

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. The main and first article is the important one

I just added the second story for more history and yes Bev was not a nice person... Andy will be missed.


I'm glad this mathematician and bradblog are still on the case.

[Godhumor]

12. I just can't believe the Patriot in front of her name

Black box is one of the few sites I refuse to even acknowledge considering her horrendous behavior. Glad irregularities are being investigated; hate seeing her out her site anywhere near it.

[JEB]

9. Are you thinking of Katherine Harrts?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Harris

Bev Harris is completely different.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bev_Harris

[Godhumor]

10. The story of Bev Harris and Andy Stephenson, a beloved decreases member here, is a long one

But basically Bev is a terrible person and is not really welcome here.

[JEB]

48. OK. I guess I missed that one.

[Godhumor]

50. Here's the official DU stance on Bev Harris from years back

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x108750

Not addressed here is when she and other advocates slandered Andy accusing him of faking the illness that eventually killed him. They went so far as to set up and publicize a website dedicated solely to besmirching his medical fight and never apologized after he passed.

A lot of us old timers have zero patience in seeing her name here in any context.

[JEB]

52. Thanks for the link.

I am beginning to get the picture. I always thought The Brad Blog was good at coving election fraud and voter rights issues.
http://www.bradblog.com/

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. No its Bev and she's right

Andy and her worked together and she took credit for some of his work.
Andy was a DUer who died right when I joined up on DU.

[JEB]

49. I didn't sign up here until 2008, so

I guess I missed that one. I always thought Brad Blog was very good on election fraud.
http://www.bradblog.com/

[panader0]

13. Recommended

ahaha ahaha ahaha. Amazing stuff.

[Darb]

14. With regard to Bev Harris,

I think we need to move beyond it. This treason needs to be proven and brought to the attention of the American people. I know, KNOW that the American people are not stupid enough to elect this many idiots and assholes. The fix is in.

It's not about Bev and Andy any more. It is about the USA and fair elections and treason.

[Godhumor]

15. Nah. I don't trust Bev and never will

As far as I am concerned she makes what should be an important task illegitimate.

[tritsofme]

16. Good lord, "Patriot Bev Harris"? Move this crap to the CT nonsense forum.

[Uncle Joe]

17. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Ichingcarpenter.

[jwirr]

18. I have a question that I know is stupid but I do not know the answer. We vote on paper in my

county but we then place that paper in a machine that will count it. When we are talking about rigging the system are these machines also involved?

[csziggy]

26. Look for the documentary "Hacking Democracy"

While it has "she who must not be named" in it, the basic theme of the film is that it is very easy to hack optical scanners especially if they are not kept in a secure location. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Democracy

[jwirr]

28. Thank you.

[Michigan-Arizona]

62. Hope this helps jwirr

https://archive.org/details/Hacking_Democracy


Some reason it took a minute to start working but it might be do my internet......

[jwirr]

63. It works. Will watch it in the morning. My puppy is demanding I retire for the night so she can

curl up to me. She is a big baby.

[cascadiance]

53. Note Doug Jones who was the technical director of this film...

He was a computer science department professor back at my alma mater at University of Iowa as noted here on his wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_W._Jones

I made a point of interviewing him back around the time that this film was made when I was visiting Iowa City as a graduate later and Brad Blog was hot on election fraud being a hot topic then, and talked about many issues surrounding election fraud. He was even concerned about potential election fraud in Oregon where I was about to move to and had in place vote by mail as they do now. He was noting that it still matters who administers vote counting and does the actual counting that even with mailed in ballots could have election fraud be in place. We saw evidence of this sort of thing happening just a few years back in Clackamas County here in Oregon too, as noted in this story from then:

http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/151246-former-county-elections-worker-pleads-guilty-to-fraud-charges

It was great to hear his opinions then, and we need more people like that helping us build the newer infrastructure for voting in the 21st century to help get rid of this abuse.

He talked about earlier non-electronic election fraud when there were trained workers that could know who voters voted for by being trained to know which sounds translated in to what votes when the levers were being pulled down in the older mechanical voting mahines. That was a good piece of history.

[csziggy]

59. Nice - I love the connections the people here at DU have

The only connection I have on this subject is that Ion Sancho who was in the documentary is the Leon County Supervisor of Elections where I live. I've met him but only in passing.

Mr. Sancho got into elections when the supervisor who had held office for decades decided to retire only hours before the close of registering to run one year. Her son who had worked in the office for her was the only person on the ballot so he won. Back then no one thought of it as a partisan position and since the guy had worked for his mother for years we all assumed that he was capable of running things.

The first election after he was in office was a disaster. No one checked the old lever machines for proper function. The ballots were not properly aligned in place and it was impossible in some cases to be sure who you were voting for. There were complaints all election day and lawsuits after. That election in Leon County was the precedent for no "do overs" in Florida elections.

Ion Sancho ran for the office the next election on the platform that he would make sure that elections were clean, well run and that there would be no question of who had been voted for and who won. He brought in the optical scanners when they were new technology.

In 2000 he put a PDF with scans of every questionable ballot in Leon County on the Supervisor of Elections website. I have that file saved and the ballots that could not be considered valid were definitely uncountable. Leon County took 45 minutes to do their recount when it was ordered.

Mr. Sancho assisted Gadsden County in reprogramming their optical scanners to kick out questionable ballots for their recount - they had not set their system up to kick out bad ballots as soon as the voters fed them to the machine. I think he also helped other counties with their recounts and consulted with some for replacing their systems after 2000.

That is why he was so upset that the optical scanners could be hacked so easily. He tried to replace them but none of the voting machine companies would work with him on increasing security of the software. Jeb Bush's people tried to have him removed from office but the people of Leon County would have nothing to do with that.

So long as Ion Sancho is in office I trust the vote results Leon County sends to the state. What the state of Florida's Secretary of State or Chief of Elections might do with them is another story. But I know Ion Sancho will fight for fair elections as long as he is able!

[BradBlog]

71. Thanks for sharing those points about Ion...

He is an American hero.

As to his work in 2000, he was so trusted and respected by both parties in FL at the time, he was put in charge of overseeing the statewide recount --- until it was ultimately blocked by SCOTUS.

He is legendary. And a helluva nice guy too. You are lucky to have him as your SOE!

[csziggy]

77. I'd like to see him in charge of the state elections

But no Republican governor will appoint him in that role.

That's the only way I'd be happy to lose him as our SOE other than him retiring. I just hope when he retires that someone he's trained will run for the office!

[dragonlady]

34. They may be

The vote totals are taken from the paper tape that the machine creates after the last ballot is inserted. It would be possible to program the machine to, for example, count every tenth Democratic vote as a vote for the Republican. If a visual count of the ballots is never done, the tampered total stands.

My belief is that those who would be able to carry out this tampering would reserve it for elections that they consider crucial and expect to be close. A modest divergence from poll results could be explained by last-minute news reports, weather, or other factors. And they know that losing candidates avoid asking for a recount and being called sore losers. They would be cautious about choosing to rig the election, because a hand recount that showed significant errors in the machine counting would expose the fraud and end their ability to rig elections forever.

[RobertEarl]

19. Suckers

That is the one word which comes to mind.

The republicans that own the voting machines have got to be laughing their asses off at the American voters who accept their vote counts.

And compared to many, yes, Harris is a Patriot.

[NCjack]

20. Illegals are voting -- that's the only explanation. (NOT). /nt

[blackspade]

22. Very good data, but this has been known for 15+ years.

Until someone at the 'Justice' Department gets their ass in gear, there will be more election thefts with the same results; the oligarchs win and the rest of us lose.

[SusanCalvin]

46. And yet it is ignored by most,

even here except sporadically.

[Dustlawyer]

24. It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you!

Check out "Stephen Spoonamore and election fraud". He is a Republican and a cyber-security expert. There is a reason the government doesn't secure our voting systems!

[Ichingcarpenter]

31. That one is a must read........... hell

they can hack your car from miles away which can cause it to go crazy on you.

[2naSalit]

25. No surprise there.

The truth cannot be known doncha know?

[4lbs]

27. While I do believe most of the article, it is indeed possible for a defective computer chip to still

allow a system to function.

Look up the Pentium FDIV bug from 1994.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug


No machines with this defective CPU stopped working. They just reported incorrect mathematical results on certain floating point computations.

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. the chip gives fake results in favor of republicans....... yeah right

and never in favor of democrats......... lets look at the odds on that piece of logic.

[HassleCat]

29. We've known this for years

Remember when the exit polls were mysteriously wrong? But only wrong in precincts where Diebold machines were at work? Meanwhile, they try to distract us with voter DI laws and other means of keeping Democrats away from the polls.

[midnight]

32. PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF ELECTION RESULTS

"Yesterday, I detailed several steps that citizens of all parties in Wisconsin (and even some of you outside of the state), can take to help protect the integrity of today's election results. Given that WI uses mostly paper ballots which are counted in secret by oft-failed, easily-manipulated computer optical-scan systems, and that they do not bother to verify computer tabulations in any way before announcing those results to the public, there is only so much that can be done. But some of my recommended steps may prove to be quite useful later, and all of them are pretty easy. See my report from last night for those easy steps, and please continue to share them broadly!

DIRTY TRICKS

Democrats are alleging that dirty tricks are under way, with robocalls instructing voters that if they signed the recall petition, their work is done and there is no need to vote today. The call reportedly says: "thank you for taking this call ... if you signed the recall petition, you did not have to vote because that would be your vote." That, of course, is completely untrue.

A different robocall reportedly uses the old "Election day is Wednesday" ruse, though, unlike the other call, that one seems unlikely to fool many folks. Both calls, at this hour, are still only alleged, since audio has yet to surface from either, but both sound feasible.

Last week, another dirty trick was confirmed when supporters of Walker's opponent Milwaukee Gov. Tom Barrett, were said to have received Spam Text Messages charging Barrett to be a "union puppet" and supplying a phone number along with it. The number, however, went to Barrett's campaign headquarters. A flood of complaints to that number then effectively shut down the Democrats' phone banking efforts for a time."

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9331

[WDIM]

33. every vote should be on paper and machine counted and hand counted

By 3 different people. This is our country and our vote is the most important thing we have. Yes we will not have instant gratification and know the out come on election night. But insuring accuracy and that every vote is counted correctly is a moral obligation we owe for all the men and women that have died for our democracy.

[moondust]

35. I've had suspicions for decades.

Going back at least to Reagan's 49-state landslide in 1984, maybe further. From rigging the machines to simply calling in the wrong numbers to the central tabulators, there would seem to be several approaches for corrupt politicos to place their operatives in key positions and produce their desired outcome. I could see Nixon's, Reagan's, and the BFEE's criminal operatives doing something like that. Just look at all the anti-democratic gerrymandering and voter suppression the GOP is responsible for. As Stalin once said, "The people who count the votes decide everything."

Disclaimer: I can't prove anything.

[jalan48]

36. It's interesting that the media no longer conducts exit polling as well.

It's what the UN relies on when it tries to keep voter fraud from taking place in 3rd world countries.

[Stevepol]

39. A thousand K&Rs!!! Please keep this alive folks.

Every election cycle, the same anomalies, the same patterns, the same general indifference by the media, the same results favoring the Repubs, especially in close races or down ballot contests.

VERIFY THE VOTE!!!

[KamaAina]

40. No small planes, Beth

[lostnfound]

41. I stayed up all night in 2004; personally downloaded & analyzed

The numbers being reports during the night and discovered a certain flat percentage distortion appearing on certain counties correlated with the type of central tabulator software wing used in those counties.
I compared bubble charts for 2000 and 2004, and showed an inexplicable growth in ratios of republican votes, in spite of large Democratic voter registration drives that had occurred in between.

One had to conclude that either
1) a bunch of 2000 Gore voters decided to vote for Bush in 2004
OR
2) Republicans became much more motivated to go vote in 2004 than in 2000, compared to less motivated Democrats,
OR
3) there was voting tabulation fraud in certain counties, correlated by machine type

[Scuba]

43. In 2009, Democrats had a chance to secure our elections and our voting rights ...

... but they got us a Heritage Foundation insurance subsidy plan instead. Guess that was all that they had time for.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

68. My senator, Al Frankin ...

... Used to regularly dismiss any talk of hacking or mass voter fraud when he had his Air America show. Loved the show, love him as a senator, but the speed with which he dismissed and outright ridiculed any discussion always struck me as odd. Regardless of who brought it up in discussion.

Yeah, that was one of the missed opportunities in 2009.

[Ichingcarpenter]

44. 2008/2012 Election Anomalies, Results, Analysis and Concerns Francois Choquette1 , James Johnson2

September 2012




Introduction:
Earlier this year, a small group of internet analysts discovered a serious statistical anomaly in the Republican primaries that gave an unfair advantage to a particular candidate. We joined this group of
volunteers and upon further research we discovered that the anomaly was also present in the 2008
general election.


This statistical anomaly helped the leading candidate Mitt Romney win the Republican nomination in 2012 and John McCain gain votes against Barack Obama in 2008. The effect was subtle in 2008 and did not affect the final results; however this year’s election could be reversed because it is a close race

We urge everyone reading this paper to learn and help investigate this anomaly, as the will of the People, though this upcoming election may be in jeopardy. We expect that the technique will continue
to be used, and cause illicit vote gains in the 10% range. We hope to raise awareness with election integrity people, political leaders, and county election administrators.

This document provides a short introduction to the problem. We have 4 other documents available (see end) ranging from a simple one page, no-math explanation of the anomaly to a thorough statistical analysis.


Our discovery:

Back in February 2012 during the South Carolina primaries, a keen observer noted that Republican candidate Mitt Romney had an unusual gain of votes in larger precincts. Analysts noted this effect
violated expected statistics. Specifically, the percentage of votes in each precinct strangely increased as a function of precinct size (vote tally). The vote gain is correlated to precinct size, not the precinct location, be it in cities or rural areas.

This anomaly is not apparent in other elections that don’t include
Republican candidates. In 2008, Mitt Romney had the benefit of this anomaly and then the gain switched to John McCain once Romney exited the campaign. The Democrat Party elections we looked
at don’t show this problem. ......................

http://madisonvoices.com/pdffiles/2008_2012_ElectionsResultsAnomaliesAndAnalysis_V1.5.pdf

[pansypoo53219]

47. WHAT I ALWAYS SAY. its the VOTE COUNTERS is where the fraud is + usually

COMMITTED BY THE RITE!

[underthematrix]

51. I tweeted out immediately following the 2010 and 2012 elections that 30% of

GOP House and Senate members obtained their seats through election fraud. How about that.

[Enthusiast]

55. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

[shadowmayor]

56. Don't Forget

Greg Palast has been warning us about this crap for years too!

[grasswire]

57. once more for the record, here is what I found in 2000

Posted here on DU a couple of times since then:


In 2004, I posted the following:

It's complicated; please follow along.

Since 2000, I've been sitting on something I stumbled over on the net. I was not able to take the research further, because doing so requires knowledge about stock sales and transfers, corporate buyouts, etc., and I have no expertise in that.
In 2000, this story sounded like something from the blue -- like the craziest of conspiracy theories. Now, after Ohio and after the AG mess has ripped the curtain off the Mayberry Macchiavellis, do you think it is far fetched? Impossible?

................

In late 1997, a Texas corporation that had previously consisted of a solid business in auto parts outlets and industrial supplies began to suddenly buy up companies related to voting machines and election services. The company was Tyler Corporation and the CEO was William Oates, founder of Business Resources Corporation and CEO of Business Records Corporation, which he also started.

Tyler Corporation purchased Business Records Corporation in 1998, and Oates replaced Fred Meyer, a Dallas man whose credentials include chairmanship of the George W. Bush inaugural, chairmanship of Victory 2000 (the Bush fundraising campaign) and a Bush family crony for many decades. Tyler Corporation changed its name to Tyler Technologies. According to election fraud expert Eve Waxtell, Tyler had/has financial ties to Cronus Corporation, which had purchased companies controlling 80 percent of the U.S. voting systems (CES, Thornber, and Governmental Data). There were crossover members of boards of directors between Cronus, Tyler, BRC and other entities in the elections services business.

Here's where it gets even more interesting. After buying an enormous share of the elections business starting in late 1997 and installing Oates (an elections old hand) as CEO, this previous autoparts business-now elections services corporation Tyler started dumping this elections segment of its holdings in December 2000, post election. Oates left then. I've lost my notes on the stock sales, but I was following some records of insider trading. C.A. Rundell, CEO of Cronus and a director of Tyler, dumped 65,000 shares of Tyler stock in December 2000, for example. The corporation that went from an auto parts business to elections services and installed a CEO with elections experience began to sell all that elections stuff in December 2000.

Oates became the CEO of another new firm that specializes in data collection for government entities; other directors of that company have Cronus and Tyler ties, and all began at Eastman Kodak, which dabbled in election services until scared off by fraud litigations in the 1980s. Fred Meyer became the CEO of Aladdin, a company he served for many years earlier in his career.

Is there a story here? Some questions beg to be answered. Why did Fred Meyer leave Tyler in 1997? Did he remain a de facto force? Was Oates hand-picked by Meyer?

Here's the possibility: Was Tyler Company/Corporation used as a front in order to gather physical control of a vast segment of election services through the 2000 election? Did Fred Meyer then step aside (at least in name) as CEO because he was too close to the Bushes and the Bush campaign?

I have no background in mergers, acquisitions, the corporate world or the stock market. Some of these corporations have changed names, been bought out, bought up, stopped and re-started, merged, etc. There probably are a lot of ways to track more information that I'm just not familiar with. It is true that things are not always what they seem (skim milk masquerades as cream) but the trail begs following.

[Unknown Beatle]

58. Document after document,

TV specials, eyewitnesses, and computer experts all agree that republicans are stealing elections using voting machines, with facts, no less, yet nothing is being done to address the problem.

This should be on the top of the list to right a tilting ship, a ship that is tilting to the right, btw, but nary a peep from the MSM.

[Botany]

60. The media will never touch this

the repubilcans cheat end of story ........ in 2008 precincts in Harlem and in Bedford Stuyvesant
.... 90% + Black showed 0 votes for Obama in the primary.

[IHateTheGOP]

61. This is some serious fucking shit people. Where the hell is the Justice Department?

[nc4bo]

75. Where is the Justice Department you ask?

[IMG][/IMG]

[Octafish]

84. A.W.O.L. like the Press...AKA Corporate Owned News...Corporate McPravda...

What Frank Zappa called the Entertainment Division of the Military Industrial Complex.

[captainarizona]

72. one more time i will give the answer

The answer is simple ;but involves a lot of work. People who vote are known and can be questioned. Ask everyone who voted how they voted and when they ask why explain your vote may have been tampered with and not correctly counted. I have heard every excuse about this not working ;but it works every where else. And has always proved the best way as shown by it being to dangerous to count more votes then people who signed up to vote. If you are concerned about vote fraud you can contact the voters and if found to be different then vote count the entity holding the election will be discredited, which good government liberals abhor and will let the fraud continue as when the black caucus couldn't get any white senators to stand with them in 2000 to challenge the stealing of the 2000 election.

[bucolic_frolic]

76. Our Local Party

or the party monitors of the election called each Democratic voter
immediately after the 2008 election to ask who they voted for.
So they were trying to get some hard numbers. This didn't happen in 2012.

There are election officials, then party folks from each party who sign you in, '
then party people outside the voting area. These last are those who called
voters. So it can be done.

[questionseverything]

81. yes we need to count ourselves

an easy way to start is to obtain your own precincts list of registered voters and start talking to them......if a person has a favorite candidate they could promote them at the same time

[Vinca]

74. GOP hysteria over voter fraud is nothing more than camouflage so

the REAL and SIGNIFICANT fraud can take place in the machines. This has been talked about since 2000, people have provided good evidence, but the justice department doesn't seem to care. Maybe the new AG will step up to the plate.

[tblue37]

78. Your hyperactive autocorrect turned "mental health" into "menial health" in the Sagan quote. nt

[ctsnowman]

79. Ever had an ATM give you more or less money

than it's supposed to? Me neither. These things are not broken they are fixed.

Peace.

[Mc Mike]

80. Excellent charts in the Choquette and Johnson paper, that kicked off Clarkson's study.

(link included in the Americablog link).

The shift of votes to benefit repugs at precincts with over 350 voters, reminded me of Michael Collins' study of l'il bush's '04 'win' coming from (allegedly, according to the NEP's strained reconciliation attempt) '4 million new white big city voters', as described in Prof. Mark C. Miller's book Loser Take All, pp 97-115.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0807/S00133.htm

excerpt:

"Miller reveals a more sophisticated election theft in 2004. I wrote the chapter, "Election 2004: The Urban Legend" (by Michael Collins, see disclosure*) based on research by Internet poster " anaxarchos " who discovered some remarkable anomalies in the final exit poll for 2004: Bush won reelection in the nation's "big cities" (500,000 > pop.).

The national exit poll is sponsored by the Media Consortium consisting of the Associated Press ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, and CNN. It provides the acknowledged source of national data on who voted, where, and why. There was great controversy generated by the unintentional release of a late Election Day exit poll showing Kerry winning by 3%. The official version, released the day after the election had Bush winning by 3%.

We examined the official exit poll and discovered data that casts serious doubt on the claimed vote totals. According to the official version of the exit poll:
-- 2004 was not a red versus blue election, as reported. The rural sector in 2000 was 23% of the total vote but in 2004, it was just 16%. Bush total votes were down by two million in 2004 compared to 2000 in that segment. Bush lost significant ground in red states in 2004 and started the election in the hole.
-- Bush made spectacular gains in "big cities" (pop. 500,000 or greater) going from 26% to 39% of the total votes in that segment. According to the official exit poll, he picked up these gains largely with the help of four million white big city voters, ghosts so to speak, who rose from their graves and other hiding places to hand the election to Bush.
-- According to the official exit poll, the Bush big city magic took place amidst a 66% increase in big city voter turnout compared to a more modest 16% national turnout increase using reported vote totals.

There was no 66% increase in big city turnout. Actual big city vote totals, available election eve or shortly thereafter, show big city turnout slightly below the national average. The exit poll's 66% turnout increase and the four million white ghosts were the only way to make the poll agree with the election results, neither of which was accurate.
According to the official exits, Bush became the first president to be re-elected while both losing significant ground in his base and, at the same time, making it up in hostile territory, the nation's big cities. The same people who gave us this mess did the exit polling for the 2008 primaries and will conduct the 2008 national exit poll in November. "


It can't be conclusively stated that the 'over 350 voter precinct' flip is the same as the 'urban legend' red shift, because I don't have the big city precinct'size' numbers. But that central tabulator flip looks like a reasonable mechanism to explain the 4 million new big-city white 'ghost' bush supporters, who 'officially' gave him the victory, when he was hated in all the Dem big cities, and had done absolutely nothing in terms of 'pro-big city' policy, or big-city voter outreach.

[questionseverything]

82. sometimes what is reported locally is not reported statewide

http://bradblog.com/?p=7875

this contest was between 2 democrats in a primary...the very conservative candidate won against the progressive candidate...after the numbers stopped moving////////

But by May 21st, turnout dropped by 1,234 to just 2,159, or 41.11% --- still one of the highest turnout rates in the state:

More disturbing, however, are the complete changes in vote totals for all candidates in both the Democratic and Republican Senate Primary races..

A total of 1,465 votes seem to have suddenly showed up in the Dem Senate race! And then there are the disappearing votes in the Republican race...


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[Octafish]

83. Kick for Democracy. And a really great thread. And the Urosevich Bros.

Diebold, Electronic Voting and the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy

by Bob Fitrakis

EXCERPT...

In the early 1980s, brothers Bob and Todd Urosevich founded ES&’s originator, Data Mark. The brothers Urosevich obtained financing from the far-Right Ahmanson family in 1984, which purchased a 68% ownership stake, according to the Omaha World Herald. After brothers William and Robert Ahmanson infused Data Mark with new capital, the name was changed to American Information Systems (AIS). California newspapers have long documented the Ahmanson family’s ties to right-wing evangelical Christian and Republican circles.

In 2001, the Los Angeles Times reported, “. . . primarily funded by evangelical Christians – particularly the wealthy Ahmanson family of Irvine – the institute’s $1-million annual program has produced 25 books, a stream of conferences and more than 100 fellowships for doctoral and postdoctoral research.” The chief philanthropists of the Discovery Institute, that pushes creationist science and education in California, are Howard and Roberta Ahmanson.

According to Group Watch, in the 1980s Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr. was a member of the highly secretive far-Right Council for National Policy, an organization that included Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, Major General John K. Singlaub and other Iran-Contra scandal notables, as well as former Klan members like Richard Shoff. Ahmanson, heir to a savings and loan fortune, is little reported on in the mainstream U.S. press. But, English papers like The Independent are a bit more forthcoming on Ahmanson’s politics.

“On the right, figures such as Richard Mellon Scaife and Howard Ahmanson have given hundreds of millions of dollars over several decades to political projects both high (setting up the Heritage Foundation think-tank, the driving engine of the Reagan presidency) and low (bankrolling investigations into President Clinton’s sexual indiscretions and the suicide of the White House insider Vincent Foster),” wrote The Independent last November.

The Sunday Mail described an individual as, “. . . a fundamentalist Christian more in the mould of U.S. multi-millionaire Howard Ahmanson, Jr., who uses his fortune to promote so-called traditional family values . . . by waving fortunes under their noses, Ahmanson has the ability to cajole candidates into backing his right-wing Christian agenda.

Ahmanson is also a chief contributor to the Chalcedon Institute that supports the Christian reconstruction movement. The movement’s philosophy advocates, among other things, “mandating the death penalty for homosexuals and drunkards.”

CONTINUED...

http://freepress.org/article/diebold-electronic-voting-and-vast-right-wing-conspiracy