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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow many of you, like me, simply could not bring themselves to watch that crap?
spanone
(135,871 posts)SharonAnn
(13,778 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Why would I even WANT to bring myself to watch it?
The OP acts like it was oatmeal that I was supposed to eat, but couldn't stand it.
It's a debate for an election where I cannot vote. Why am I even supposed to think about watching it?
I don't even know why we spend so much time talking about it, except that I guess when the media rings their bell, a whole bunch of us start salivating.
It's like our favorite soap opera, except that "As the Republican Party turns" is on 24/7.
WTF? Get a life, people.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Lots of people on this thread didn't watch it and gave their reasons without besmirching those who did.
still_one
(92,381 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Fox News were brutal to Trump. Why? Who do they want? How long will the Bush Family allow a pipsqueek like Trump to take the attention from Jeb? I believe at some point in the near future, Trump will implode, or Karl Rove isn't earning his paycheck.
The questions by Megan Kelly aimed at Trump were fun to watch.
still_one
(92,381 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)what is out there and how they interact. It's a great opportunity to see the dynamics going on, as you said. IMO a lot can be learned from watching debates of this nature.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)happy to let Jeb hang in the background until the time for the election. Not at all different than what the DNC is doing with Clinton.
Keep you head down, don't address actual issues and bingo-bango we get a Clinton/Bush race. Disaster for the lower classes. But the Oligarchs will be pleased.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,835 posts)to see how half of our entire political system has devolved into a sorry collection of lunatics and clowns.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And there is a quote I need to go find from Trump, and the exchange between Paul and Christie.
By the way, Trump won.
840high
(17,196 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Kasich said. we need to take lessons from Donald Trump. He is, he is hitting a nerve. People are frustrated. Theyre fed up They dont think the government is working for them. And for people who want to tune him out, they are making a mistake.
Abd MSNBC is quoting him
840high
(17,196 posts)fasttense
(17,301 posts)Then yes Trump won. If winning means losing the female vote, then Trump would win but for the fool who wants a mother to die giving birth because the federal government wont let her have an abortion.
Actually, I now think Trump is dumber than before the debate.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And understanding what makes that audience tick is critical by the way.
If I am thinking of his target audience he did indeed take it. In the earlier debate Fiorina did well. It's a similar audience
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)of them act like inmates. He's the idea candidate for the republicans. I think some of them act shocked by what he says, but I think inwardly they think the same. Oh, I hope he gets no where near the presidency.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)not to be posted at this partisan site. But people ignore him at their peril.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I couldn't even watch commentary on MSNBC. I just don't care about those idiots or what they have to say.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)They are not qualified to even be in government...I believe their supporters are just like them...totally self serving
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)it's embarrassing to see they have gotten this far, as you say; "They are not qualified to even be in government...":
yourout
(7,532 posts)GitRDun
(1,846 posts)He was a big zero.
a kennedy
(29,706 posts)Johonny
(20,883 posts)and I don't watch FOX.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I buried myself in geological and environmental reports concerning my aquifer that one of our satanic oil companies is trying to lay a pipeline almost at my door step through a fairly rugged wilderness area.
It was a much better use of my time.
cilla4progress
(24,763 posts)about your plight!
I will keep you in my thoughts. That is horrifying.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)knew. I only found out this week. None of my neighbors knew. I hope we can stop it.
cilla4progress
(24,763 posts)wilt and die. I live near the wilderness, too, and I treasure the water, air, quiet, stars here. Any and all assaults on these treasures, I feel personally and viscerally.
I really hope you are able to stop them.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)homegirl
(1,433 posts)channel surfing got me through some of it. The Jon Stewart marathon and his last show helped a lot.
abakan
(1,819 posts)Actually I had to wash my hair.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,019 posts)Happiness ensues!
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Not into optics.
That said, I was hoping to watch Trump Unchained
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)But the amount of lies, vitriol, and stupidity was too much to stomach even for a minute. The scary part is that people,..not just Fox...actually believe this shit and will vote for the republican. Half of the ppl who vote will undoubtedly vote for whichever jackass wins.
That makes me sad.
cilla4progress
(24,763 posts)Ready to turn it off and watch a little of the commentary.
I'm remembering in 2012 how the Republican audiences went off the rail with ugly racist comments. Looking forward to them revealing their true selves.
The spin and lies is simply nauseating.
MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)saving cats and dogs or watching a train wreck.
The choice was easy
NJCher
(35,722 posts)Cher
shenmue
(38,506 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)prairierose
(2,145 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Catching up with the live threads now.
Just couldn't do it....
yuiyoshida
(41,859 posts)access to the FOX Debates were full. I went to the Radio, Giants were playing the cubs... Giants lost by one run, 5-4, despite some nice home runs by Brandon Belt and Brandon Crawford, not enough to win. Oh well, there's always tomorrow.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Love this Giants team! Hesto Presto gave it up today.
1:00 (PDT?) start tomorrow (Friday), odd.
Ever get to the games? Saw one so far this year...
yuiyoshida
(41,859 posts)Great to be at the ball park!
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)Odd coincidence: the 9 taking the field for the opposition...
Yech I would watch the G's instead of self-torture like that anytime.
Moral Compass
(1,525 posts)Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)
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2naSalit
(86,775 posts)one reason being that I haven't had a tee vee since 1980, the second being that I would have horrid ugly-demon-nightmares-from-hell for weeks if I had even listened to it. There is no reason to poison my world with that kind of toxic discourse. I chose to catch up on DU conversations that I have been missing out on because of work and eat blueberries.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)with republican insanity.
Ever.
I already know everything that they are ever going to say, and I have known this since Nixon was President.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Mommy
I skeered.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)people are going to vote for one of them for the presidency. That, is earth shattering frightening.
FuzzyRabbit
(1,969 posts)We already know what they are going to say, and what they say is almost always nonsense totally removed from reality.
NJCher
(35,722 posts)Not me. I watched it and had a great time doing so.
It sounds, however, like many of the people on this thread have watched Fox News before. This is the first time I have ever watched it.
Cher
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Did anything important happen? Did any Republican utter a sentence based on clear logic and supported by factual evidence? (That has happened since 1980).
cal04
(41,505 posts)I don't know how anyone has the stomach to watch or listen to them
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Giving me play by play and quotes.
I couldn't stop being wrent between horror and hillarity.
gordianot
(15,243 posts)The word I would best use to describe this event is "empty" too predictable. All including moderators are scared to the degree of severe constipation of Donald Trump.
jalan48
(13,883 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,156 posts)I've been watching political debates since Humphrey versus Fuck-Face Nixon in 1968. . . I have seen some stomach-turning shit on the tube, and it's only gotten worse. . . . Much, MUCH, MUCH worse over the years. The current crop of clowns is about the stupidest in recent memory with the EXCEPTION of the worthless and lying POS, George W. Bush. I no longer have the stomach to watch ANY of them. I can scarcely read about them in the newspaper, and even here among friends on DU, I still can barely read ABOUT their "debate" without wanting to vomit up my supper.
ben_thayer
(375 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)Do chickens have paws? Well hoists whatever chickens have because chickens have more sense than everyone at that debate thingy combined. Didn't watch it, sorta ghosted through the threads here about it...concluded that I hadn't missed anything which was what I expected. nuff said
tavernier
(12,399 posts)that he was going to go rogue if they didn't pick him.
Made my night!
Then I left. Quickly. 🏃
Stardust
(3,894 posts)the best bits.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)I get enough conservative garbage just living in Texas
KauaiK
(544 posts)Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)
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allan01
(1,950 posts)CBHagman
(16,987 posts)...and only because I had access to cable through the gym. I have my doubts as to whether I could have gotten through the whole thing, even with the loving support of friends and a perhaps chocolate (and/or a glass of wine).
Kennah
(14,315 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I was schlepping my way home from work and was getting little updates on CBS radio and NPR...they both seemed to be just giddy over this.
Spent a large part of the drive screaming at the radio!
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)I played a drinking game, so luckily I will remember very little tomorrow. Happy Early Friday, everyone!
ybbor
(1,555 posts)I don't even want to see "highlights".
C Moon
(12,221 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,027 posts)and my daughter was playing Minecraft on our computer. Oh well.
marginlized
(357 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I don't have cable, and figured I would watch online.....WRONG! You had to have a cable subscription to access it online. I am sure that I could watch it now anywhere online, but live---no way. That was so wrong! But it did save me frustration.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I watched The Daily Show instead.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)fbc
(1,668 posts)marginlized
(357 posts)vlakitti
(401 posts)If I wanted to hear the opinions and blatherings of fools I'd go hang around some drunks in a bar.
Appropriately it's all on Fox.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)if only for the humor factor. However, I didn't notice the time, not sure when it started, and ultimately, I decided that I didn't really care when it started so I didn't watch after all.
Then I thought I would catch some commentary on MSNBC. Shit -- that running mouth Matthews was on and I simply can't stand him. He talks and talks and even when he asks a questions, he talks over the person trying to answer. He is particularly bad with women -- he interrupts them before they get two words out. I watched earlier this week when he had Joy Reid on -- he asked a question, answered the question and then asked Reid for her answer. She said one word -- and he interrupted; she said another word, he interrupted again. After he did that the third time, I shut him off.
So, no, I didn't watch, don't know what was said, and if you want the truth, I don't really care what was said. I'm confident that whatever came out of their mouths was self-serving, hateful, miserly, and probably not even the truth.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)so I guess he 'won' as expected.
They didn't even mention the others other then showing Perrys unhappy face while Carley restated her old HP CEO lines.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)rpannier
(24,337 posts)Did Ronald Reagan win it for the third straight time?
silenttigersong
(957 posts)part 1 on you tube as i was data mining for comedy.But I must say that I not being the brightest bulb in the pack was amazed that these dim wits were on stage . I do not think I can watch part 2 as i feel nauseated.
Ford_Prefect
(7,918 posts)logically exist. Reality is alien to Fox therefore presenting that selection of false hopes could not provide true debate, nor even debatable truths. Having indulged my sense of irony by perusing the housing section of our local paper I concluded that a dose of humor was required. So I watched "Scrubs" on DVD instead.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)and I dissuaded my parents not to watch. (being Canadians), I explained to them that our own debate was far more critical and exponentially less of clown show. They thought the entertainment value might be good, but I reminded then that tuning in or logging on to Fox only directs more money to the people who provide a platform for some of the most vile minds, and candycoat coat it as reasonable and palatable.
(Again, as a Canadian) I asked them if their priories were to be entertained or informed.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Not gonna support Fux even with 5 cents worth of my time.
Not Sure
(735 posts)Just a wild guess, but I'm betting all I missed was a spike in my blood pressure.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Knew I wouldn't need an extra watching the clown show but figured some of the clown quotes posted here might make me need one.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)My doctor advised against it.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)i hear it was just republican pandering to the rich and the MIC anyway.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)WE missed nothing. I heard carly the witch won the jv talent show. I think trump is STILL the clown to beat in their third string varsity team.
1monster
(11,012 posts)Just think, if the debates had not been on, I might have stayed home and saved a bundle. :/
jimlup
(7,968 posts)I learned years ago that the TV set wasn't safe so for the good of the television itself I stayed away from it.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)whathehell
(29,090 posts)Contrary1
(12,629 posts)Democrats...bad, bad, bad.
Taxes...bad, bad, bad.
Immigrants...bad, bad, bad.
Non-Christians...bad, bad, bad.
Gays...bad, bad, bad.
Persons of color...bad, bad, bad.
Anti-war...bad, bad, bad.
Climate change...bad, bad, bad.
Abortion...bad, bad, bad.
Did I miss anything?
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)I didn't watch it, either. I'm sure I'll see enough clips or read enough crazy excerpts to get me through until the next one. Whether I like it or not.
I do so hope The Donald wins the primary, though. Think how much fun Bernie is going to have wiping the floor with the fool.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They started ten minutes early, and no one wanted to come out. Then they started announcing their names and they stumbled out....it was just a sloppy clusterf-ck.
The questions were dumb, the answers were dumber--I thought it showed them all off to poor advantage, and that's just fine with me!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)raised to the level of presidential hopefuls. It really makes one wonder just how many people in the US are so totally F'ed up to let this happen. Is this the best that can be offered up.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Part of Trump's ummmh--'charm'--as it were--is that he gives the appearance of being less 'controllable'--that loose cannon aspect is like an addictive drug to the mouth breathing un-thinkers!
I suspect they'll narrow it down to a few duller, safer choices soon enough. In the interim, that Kelly woman who moderated the debate must be thrilled--"The Donald," by insulting her, has given her cred, so she can perhaps transition to a real news network if she has a mind!
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)They are all nuts.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)I watched Jon Steward's last show instead.
Fritz Walter
(4,292 posts)I even DVRed the Daily Show marathon leading up to the final episode (which will allow me to fast-forward through the commercials when I watch the best of Jon Stewart in the coming days/weeks/months).
As I have stated elsewhere: I do not watch infomercials, regardless of what brand of snake oil is being peddled. And like so many others who commented on this post, I have blocked FN and F-Bidness News from both TVs, so I don't accidentally land on those channels while surfing.
Alkene
(752 posts)It wouldn't have been a healthy choice.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,163 posts)I can find video of a train wreck on the internet.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Just because I'm curious.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Once Trump gave his indication that he would walk away and run an independent campaign if the Republicans didn't kiss his ass sufficiently, I was hooked. I think Trump, Cruz and Huckabee were so odious that they probably did themselves irreparable harm, and Bush was his typical namby-pamby self. "Winners" of the night, in my opinion: Marco Rubio and Chris Christie. All in all, I now feel better about Democratic success in 2016.
mopinko
(70,205 posts)du is all i need.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)it was amazing comedy, really
MADem
(135,425 posts)I had to find the channel and set the timer so that the show would pop up and I could turn to it...which was good, because they started at ten minutes before the hour, and I got to see the stumble-bums refuse to come out until they were introduced, AND the uncomfortable photo-gaggle preceding the whole mess. That alone made me realize that the entire shenanigans was going to be a bit off - kilter, and it didn't disappoint!
OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)Horror isn't my genre.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)Besides, my TV's don't do FOX.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Watching the GOPee circus came in dead last on my list of things to do.
northoftheborder
(7,574 posts)I discovered the John Stewart special featuring some of the best skits and interviews over the years. I had planned to watch some of the MSNBC post debate, but couldn't even face those guys who had been hyperventilating all day about the "exciting event" to take place - yuck. Went to bed and read my book!
I plan to watch Stewart's last show later at break (recorded it!)
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Asking Democrats to watch republicans
debating issues is unbelievably stupid.
DWS lost a mind numbing number of elections
and she's promoting people "tune in" to
watch that crap? WTF.
Do you think any serious corporation would
ask you to watch the competitions advertising,
go to their showroom, test drive their products?
NO EFFING WAY.
DWS is an imbecile and needs to resign or be fired
before she hands the Oligarchs what they are buying
one candidate at a time...our democratic process and freedoms
joshdawg
(2,651 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)I don't have to watch to know what they said. They plan to pump up Bush and cheat again. All they need is for the cheating to look remotely plausible.
Glorfindel
(9,733 posts)Just too nauseating. Life's too short to inflict that kind of garbage on one's self.
nruthie
(466 posts)They_Live
(3,240 posts)and then threw up in mouth a little bit. Celebrity and Fascism is what it comes down to, it seems. What a world.
Go Bernie!!
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)kydo
(2,679 posts)Besides had a much better time with a bunch of drunks then I would have had watching the clowns on the fake news channel.
SharonAnn
(13,778 posts)rurallib
(62,448 posts)I stay away from such tripe
olddots
(10,237 posts)DOUCHE BAGS OF D.C.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)I watched Alien v. Predator. I figured that was an appropriate substitute. You have a vicious predator which needs a combover vs. a pack of slimy parasitic slugs that keep proliferating in the dark holes.
ileus
(15,396 posts)sarge43
(28,944 posts)Quoting every buddy cop flick ever made, "I'm getting too old for this shit."
I spent the evening watching the remastered Ben Hur, the commentary, behind the scenes stories, etc. You know, professionals and craft people busting butt making something of worth.
I wouldn't waste my time watching clowns and fools crap on my country.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)I can not believe this country is serious about any one of those men. Not a good candidate in the entire group. Nobody who can measure up to our President. Roll them all together, and they do not equal ONE Barak Obama. I thought the gop had stooped to their lowest level when they accepted Palin as VP candidate. I was so wrong. She opened the door, and look what pushed their way through!!
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)20 years sure but now I have their full bullshit committed and glean no further value.
I'll probably read a transcript for ammo later.
MsMAC
(91 posts)Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)still_one
(92,381 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)skepticscott
(13,029 posts)even if the people involved weren't complete dingbats. You cannot have anything resembling a "debate" with 10 people. Call it a cluster fuck, call it a circle jerk, but don't dignify it by calling it a "debate". Even with Democrats it would have been an utterly useless exercise.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)but I wouldn't have watched it anyway.
When I heard excerpts from it on Democracy Now! this morning, it sounded like what I remember of those old WWF "interviews" with wrestlers between matches...the howling crowd, the taunting and yelling over each other of the participants.
WWF was more entertaining and relevant, though.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)I admit some of the lesser known candidates I don't know much about but I already know enough to know that none of them will get my vote.
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)and then Rachel Maddow talking about Jon Stewart.
We got more than enough on the morning news.
Since there is NOTHING that could convince us to vote for any of those unqualified candidates, we are taking a vow of watching as little political commentary as possible.
I did comment on Facebook about Trump in relationship to his Rosie O'Donnell comment and what a wimp he was when questioned. I am getting a fair number of likes from strangers on both comments.
He has no filter, he would piss off someone who is really dangerous on the first day in office.
Enthusiast
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
VA_Jill
(9,995 posts)My niece was watching and commenting on Facebook and I just followed along and giggled (she'll be 23 on Sunday). I think she was probably drinking, too. I'd have to have been drinking a LOT to watch those idiots.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)sakabatou
(42,174 posts)d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)If I wanted to know what the cons were talking about I'd go back to gocomics. Might head there now...
Went there and the site is down. Phoooey! There's usually about ten mal-contents who think the Republican circus is gonna straighten out eight years of Obama's policies.
avebury
(10,952 posts)Kermitt Gribble
(1,855 posts)Not worth the additional stress.
DinahMoeHum
(21,807 posts). . .geeks and newbies (a PC Users Group) watching the wonders of the new Windows 10 system.
So, I missed it, but it looks like that was the best thing.
What an unmitigated garbage fire the GOP has become.
George II
(67,782 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)didn't interest me in the least
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)The Republican candidates will be starring in America's funniest reality show for the next year or so.
Jimbo S
(2,960 posts)classic rock > GOP
Got home in time to catch Stewart's farewell. But I did record the debate for entertainment purposes, we'll see how much of it I'll watch tonight.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Life=too short
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I knew there would be an abundance of news stories about it. It was entirely predictable what they would say - just the delivery was in question.
What bugs me is the amount of attention the GOP is getting from having so many clowns in the car and having such an early debate. The dems need to get out there sooner than October or November -- whenever the first debate is scheduled.
40RatRod
(532 posts)and enjoyed both. I thought they did a super job showing anyone watching the stupidity of those running!
glinda
(14,807 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)laughed uncontrollably.....
Deadshot
(384 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)And some fabulously entertaining tweets to boot!
mdbl
(4,973 posts)I guess that means I am not misinformed enough.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Actually.... I was somewhat pleasantly surprised that Kelly and Wallace were as aggressive as they were.
And Trump throws everyone off script. There was more honesty and less artifice than one encounters in the usual GOP "debates.".
(Ordinarily a tedious reiteration of focused-grouped talking points.)
sinkingfeeling
(51,471 posts)catrose
(5,073 posts)I let Wonkette tell me all about it.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)...and that convinced me I did not want to stay for the Matinee. From excepts I have seen today, a good decision on my part.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)It was very apparently that Fox didn't know what they hell they were doing.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)listening to their lies should make a thinking human want to puke...
LWolf
(46,179 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)punguin54
(47 posts)I had intended to watch the clowns but was surprised to find out I couldn't. I could not find it on any of the stations here in north Idaho and I do have a dish but refuse to allow FAUX into my home. Unfortunately I can't get any other cable news provider either.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)AC_Mem
(1,979 posts)But I just didn't have the stomach for it.
FlaGatorJD
(364 posts)I'm glad I didn't watch, and Daily Show was great.
aintitfunny
(1,421 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)Wow, do I ever detest Republicans.
People who support... Sarah Palin. Lindsey Graham.
With not a single sliver of light to be seen.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)You didn't miss much.
It was a bit of a surprise that Fox was obviously going after Trump. I don't know if they were hoping for a verbal onslaught to increase their ratings or, more likely, they got their marching orders from the establishment either way.
Bigredhunk
(1,351 posts)Can't stand them. Can't stand the things for which they stand. Don't want to help their ratings.
It's why I blocked all the Faux (and similar) channels on my Dish.
IHateTheGOP
(1,059 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)It wasn't a debate, just a bunch of barking at each other. They didn't discuss issues .. they threw jabs at each other.
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Liberal In Texas
(13,574 posts)And won't again next month.
The hype before on MSNBC et al. was pretty nauseating.
"What will he say, what will he do, how will he react..." Ach.