I will bet a lot that Fiorina is VP choice

[Laura PourMeADrink]

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Start noticing....they are ALL raving about her.

A couple weeks ago I saw some military guy on Faux News say she was absolutely the number one person, out of all running, who understood the military, foreign affairs and would keep the world safe.

Even the Faux News guy couldn't keep a straight face.

My thought - the word is out - praise her whenever you can - so when she is picked her
reputation will be inflated.

[PoliticAverse]

1. Nope. n/t

[stevenleser]

2. Particularly if Hillary is the nominee. They will need some sort of diversity on their ticket.

At least that's the way they will see it. Here's what I had to say about Fiorina, to me she doesn't have anything to offer:

[cwydro]

23. She'd be a big mistake for the GOP.

But a bonus for us if they go that way.

But, I doubt they will.

[MADem]

3. I WISH!!!! She's lousy--not appealing at all.

She looks like the sort of person that would criticize you, not help you. She sounds that way, too.

She would do more for moving the GOP women's vote to Clinton (not Sanders, though) if HRC was the Democratic nominee.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

13. She's the only one who can actually speak to issues

Bad ideas but articulate.

I've got toss-up state candidates
OH-WI-FL mix

All 3 on stage tonight

[MADem]

19. "The Donald" speaks to issues--they're hate - filled screeds, but he's certainly speaking to issues!

He tells us what he hates, what's stupid (in his inflated opinion), how much money he has in reference to how much it would take to fix a problem, how he could do things better, smarter and cheaper...! He has something (often bigoted/intolerant/half-assed) to say about pretty much every issue on the table!!

[MADem]

55. Excuse me? Are you making "mental" disparagements against me because you like Trump?

What does that comment even mean?

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

56. lol

Put it down and walk away.

[MADem]

57. No, I don't think I want to do that--I want you to explain yourself.

If you think telling people they aren't "well" because they don't care for Donald Trump, I have to wonder if you've taken a wrong turn.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

58. Oh, you're "good" at "this"

now decrypt that 😀

[MADem]

64. I don't need to "decrypt" anything. You're behaving like a bully. I'd like to know why.

On edit, never mind, I see you're out of the running, here--whoever alerted on that initial rude post, thank you for that.

I don't mind debate, but I hate meanness. Especially pointless meanness.

[meir34]

72. He avoided real issues in the debate; sounded like any old politician--only a misogynstic, hateful 1

Here's part of a post on the debate from a blog today: (pragmaticliberalism.com)

"Trump looked most unpresidential. He was bombastic, insulting to Mexico and most Mexican-Americans, and women in particular. His changed positions made him, despite his lame protestations otherwise, look more like the pandering politicians he vilifies so often. He is thin-skinned and clearly let his angry self show up, front and center. His nasty response to Fox moderator Megyn Kelly will only exacerbate his mainstream image as a nasty man, if not personally repugnant to many Americans, not likely to be one that would have a chance in a general election. I also don’t think it will be very long before the lie he put forth that no one would be talking about illegal immigration if he hadn’t, will tear at the fabric of his believability. It has been one of the most discussed, and divisive, subjects in the partisan political divide for some time. Additionally, very old-line politician-like, he gave vague and uninformative answers throughout the evening. When asked by Kelly about his misogynist past Donaldisms describing women, he was down on as ‘fat pigs’, ‘dogs,’ ‘slobs’ and ‘disgusting animals,’ Trump replied, in a wholly unsatisfactory manner, “Only Rosie O’Donnell.” A poor attempt at humor, that only reinforced the misogyny charge. The image was hardly what most Americans want from an American president. "

[MADem]

73. I don't disagree that he's misogynistic and hateful, but he addressed a BIG issue right out of the

gate--that he won't necessarily support the GOP nominee if it ain't HIM. That's a -- as "The Donald" would say---YEEEWWWWWWWG issue, right there.

I think the Summer of The Donald won't last forever, either--but one never knows, really. For now, the right likes the concept of a tough-talking loudmouth who is politically incorrect and will tell Mexico, China and Russia to stuff it.

As Vox rather crudely put it:

This is Donald Trump's secret, his strategy, his power. Trump is a honey badger. He just doesn't fucking care. He will never, ever give an inch. Better to be a monster than a wuss.

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/6/9114505/donald-trump-honey-badger-gop-debate


That's what appeals to GOP voters, at least for now. The honeymoon probably won't last forever, but stranger things have happened.

[calimary]

77. Well, she sure as hell did a lot for HP!

Hmmm... why didn't she talk about her "illustrious" resume as CEO of HP during the kiddie table debate?

[hobbit709]

4. She's got experience running businesses into the ground.

Her and Chinga tu Pelo would be a great team.

[MineralMan]

5. I will bet she's not.

She'd be a very poor choice, which doesn't matter to me, but it will matter to the RNC. Not happening, I think.

[Brother Buzz]

6. The men behind the curtain are giddy

She's actually exceeding their expectations and is totally on track to be Jeb's VP tap. Their real concern is Jeb. The BFEE rolled out the new and improved machine and completed beta testing with Jeb, but he is stalled in the starting gates.

[countingbluecars]

7. I thought the same when

I heard icky Joe Scarborough raving about her this morning.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. oh yes ! and it has a hollow ring to it. Even dumbbell Willie said it too. nt

[SheilaT]

8. I rather doubt it myself,

although I wouldn't be especially surprised if she were. Very especially if Hillary is not on the Democratic ticket at all.

Republicans, in all their hypocrisy, would love nothing better than to have the first woman Vice President or President. Not because they sincerely believe any woman is actually suited to the job, but they want the bragging rights.

Several years ago Nicolle Wallace (former Republican operative, was in the Bush WH, worked on the McCain-Palin campaign) wrote a book called Eighteen Acres about the first woman President who is also a Republican. It should have been published as science fiction, since it clearly took place in an alternate universe. Among other plot improbabilities is that when she openly forgives her openly unfaithful husband, it makes her wildly popular with all. And then she nominates her press secretary to be her Secretary of State when she wins a second term. As if that would ever happen. Although, come to think of it, since Republicans don't seem to care very much about real qualifications for any office, I guess that nomination would make it through a Republican Senate.

Which actually makes me recognize quite clearly that most of the sniping between the Hillary and the Bernie camps is completely about which one is the more qualified to be President.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. She's soooo yesterday......

[MADem]

20. Someone sporting the Maria Von Trapp in the Nunnery 'do is dissing Barbara Boxer's hair?

See-I was right. She's got MEAN GIRLS written all over her.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. LOL !!! Don't you go trashing Maria !!

[MADem]

32. Ha ha ha!!!

Actually, the real "Maria" has been dead for almost 30 years. I know a couple of old ladies that used to go to the Von Trapp lodge for their holiday back when they were younger-middle aged ladies...they told me she could be a real crabapple--nothing like Julie Andrews at all!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Did you see her suit tonight? It's some kinds of red satin. nt

[MADem]

42. It looked very expensive--a little too expensive.

The outfit wore her, not the other way around.

She wanted to be noticed, obviously, and thought that was one way to do it!

[TexasBushwhacker]

36. That hair ages her 10 years

but maybe she was going for that. Really dowdy. Barbara Boxers hair looks nice.

[MADem]

37. She looks like Jane Hathaway getting mic'd up, there!

Good thing Jethro's not nearby!

[TexasBushwhacker]

45. OMG you're right

That lumpy, no style hair before we had blow dryers and flat irons.

[Octafish]

10. Fascist CEOs who offshore jobs are not what the Pentagon needs.

A little discipline in the officer corps, though, wouldn't hurt the bottom line.

[Beaverhausen]

11. She'd be another Palin.

[KamaAina]

12. I'll take some of that action

It's Fiorina.

[olddots]

14. I was hoping they would go with a Kardashian

[leftynyc]

15. Nope

If it's Bush it will go to Kasich, if it's anyone else, it'll be Rubio. They learned their lesson in 2008 when sarah didn't bring them the women's vote.

[Maeve]

16. I've said all along that Kasich is running for VP this year

On the belief that he can carry Ohio (well, he can carry the Ohio newspapers)

[leftynyc]

59. Exactly

They'er pissed they keep losing Ohio.

[MADem]

21. That's a reasonable bet. Kasich is out early w/the ads. Walker is too polarizing.

I also agree that Rubio only has a shot at the 2nd slot if Jeb! ain't in the mix. Jeb! probably has more Hispanic appeal than Rubio does!

[Erose999]

33. Jeb! will not be anyone's #2. Rubio + Jeb! is too much Florida. Rubio could go with Walker or Kasich

if he can hang at the kid's table debate this afternoon.

[MADem]

34. Of course not. Jeb! wants the WH, not the Naval Observatory.

He wouldn't even contemplate 2nd fiddle. He doesn't have the skillset for it, either.

It's not even the Florida factor, though that is one--it's that Jeb! out-hispanics Rubio. He has (albeit LIMITED) appeal to people of Mexican heritage owing to his wife's ancestry. He speaks Spanish beautifully and fluently, with that crisp, clear "tv announcer" Mexican accent--anyone who is a native speaker from any country can understand him perfectly. Rubio speaks Spanish, but he doesn't sound like a newscaster. And Ted Cruz? I don't know if he could order a burrito and a beer in Spanish!

[Erose999]

66. Cruz regularly hosts events at Tortilla Coast which is DC's finest in "Gringo friendly Tex-Mex"

[MADem]

67. Phew--he doesn't have to remember that "cerveza" word! nt

[Erose999]

69. Rubio was kinda underwhelming. I think Kasich really shined by being above the fray. They say

Fiorina won the "kids table" debate so maybe the contest for JEB's Veep is between her and Kasich.

[leftynyc]

60. It's because they're both from the same state

There are constitutional reasons they can't do that.

[MADem]

63. Like CHENEY was from Wyoming when he decided he wanted to be VEEP? LOL!

He was living in, and filing his federal taxes from, TEXAS when he decided he would run, and high-tailed it back to his vacation home which magically became his primary residence!

Mitt Romney got a homestead exemption for his home in Utah when he filed for gubernatorial candidacy in Massachusetts.

Not that they'd want to pair up (it's just too much on so many levels), but IF they did, Jeb! just built a house in Kennebunkport on the "family compound." It's a decent sized thing, too, assessed at over a million bucks. He could call himself a Mainer! And get away with it, too!

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/05/23/jeb-bush-having-new-house-built-for-him-family-compound-maine-even-prepares-for-campaign/mrVSwhPYkanfgL6nA4fRVK/story.html

[Erose999]

17. Jeb will team with Walker or Kasich. Jeb will not be a VP. Walker could go either way. Those fuckers

will be 3 out of the final four though. Establishment guys, implementers of the 1% agenda upon their states. Trump is the distraction to clear the way for Jeb or Walker. Trump will soak up all the racist/bigot votes that would go to candidates like Huckabee/Santorum/Perry. Then he'll drop out in mid-March, when the primaries change from proportional to winner-take-all. It will be a bait-and-switch. The GOP base would vote for a turnip before they'd vote for Hillary or Bernie so they'll vote for whatever candidate the establishment tells them to.

The GOP will put the establishment candidate on top, in spite of the Tea Party and other whackadoodle insurgencies.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. Could explain why Fox scammed on the polls and got Kasich in. nt

[MADem]

68. It would be interesting to learn if Kasich knew which markets Fox intended to poll, and then

targeted his "My dad was a postman and I balanced the Ohio budget so that qualifies me to be President" ad to those markets. That could have given him the advantage. He's been all over the NH market with that ad, and it has been running for several weeks. Southern NH uses Boston for some of their media--they have their own ABC outlet, but they rely on Boston for NBC and CBS. I wonder if IA has been treated to that oddball ad as well?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

76. Whenever someone drones on about their poor upbringing it just rings so hollow. Remember

he was on Fox, right. And so was Huck and they picked him the winner.

I wouldn't put what you say past any of them.

Although, have to say, the questioning was tough - more so than any debate I remember. Who would have thought that? However, they pretty much made every one look bad, didn't they? Oops

[Tommy_Carcetti]

18. Really? She adds very little.

Never held elected office, so I'm not sure what base she'd be bringing in. It's not like California voted for her.

[pampango]

22. It has to be Cruz or Rubio or Fiorina. If the go with a white guy

as VP they are toast

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Carnival Cruz?

[virgogal]

30. Cruz and Rubio ARE white guys.

[TeamPooka]

61. not to Republicans . nt

[MADem]

35. They could go for the cheating governor of South Carolina, Nikki Haley, if they can manage to

make people forget about her hot affair with Will Folks!!! She's a two-fer! South Asian AND female...!

[Erose999]

70. Taking the Confederate flag down killed her chances. She's despised among the Teapublicans in her

own state. She's term limited so she can't run again for governor. I doubt she would have pulled the flag if she had another election to run.

[MADem]

71. Maybe not--the shitflinging on the party wings happens during the primaries.

During the general contest, there's a race to the center.

She pulled that flag to get NATIONAL attention--and she got it. People who don't know that she had a hot liaison with a conservative political operative looked at her and said "Ooooh, pretty!" and the ones who thought, well, shit, gotta do something after that shooting to defuse that mess, thought, "Ooooh, NICE!" (there are lots of Republicans who aren't Confederate flag fans, and she'd wrap them up, plus the "Oh well, she's from the south" people) and the racists said "Oooooh, she's OUR kinda minority! Wha, she hardly LOOKS Indian!!! We can check a block with her, since Bobby Jindal crashed and burned!"

She's got pluses--she's got minuses, too. The minuses haven't been vetted on the national stage...yet, anyway.

[AllFieldsRequired]

26. She is a perfect fit. Other than the obvious attempt to appeal to women, she thinks of

working people the same way Scott Walker, Koch Brothers and the rest do, she hates them.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. that's funny....they are SO out-of-touch they actually think women will vote

for a woman just because she is a woman. It's hysterical.

[elfin]

31. No - gonna be Ohio!Ohio! Kasich

Presuming Jeb! Can still buy the nomination.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. May be. I just find it very very suspicious that they are pushing her. I work from

home and have the news on all day in the background....and I have heard them push
her too many times for it not to be orchestrated.

[wheniwasincongress]

43. Yes it's very interesting

very sudden, within the past day or so.

[DeepModem Mom]

40. Agree. nt

[wheniwasincongress]

41. People on Fox are really talking her up

They really like her. It seems like a lot of momentum has begun to sway her way the past day or two. Keep an eye on her.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. Perry...

Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry suggested Thursday that he could put Carly Fiorina on his 2016 ticket if he were he to win his party’s presidential nomination.

“I’ll tell you from my perspective one of the people who I’ve dealt with over the course of the years that possibly may be on that stage with me, Carly Fiorina,” Perry said on Fox Business Network of the former tech executive and current presidential competitor.

“That’s the type of really savvy individual that I think makes a lot of sense to have around you whether it’s in a cabinet or as a running mate,” he added. “She is a very, very capable, smart, savvy business woman … and by the way she was born in Texas, so that’s another plus for her.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/rick-perry-likes-carly-fiorina-potential-veep-article-1.2309177

[NYCButterfinger]

46. It's going to be Pawlenty or Thune

Fiorina, maybe, but most likely those two. They're safer choices. Safety first. Tim Pawlenty, former Minnesota governor, can make MN competitive, John Thune, South Dakota Senator is dangerously handsome and can swing some female votes. Thune can deliver WI and IA to the GOP, and that would be a problem for the Democrats.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. hmmm. I had forgotten about Pawlenty. Isn't he extraordinarily boring? nt

[NYCButterfinger]

48. Yes, but boring may be better than style

He could do well for a Bush or Rubio. A Bush/Pawlenty ticket could win Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin. I hope not.

[tritsofme]

49. Dollar to donuts that unless their nominee is Rubio, their VP candidate will not be a white male

I would say Fiorna or Haley are highly probable picks.

[DCBob]

50. For sure it will be a woman but more likely a Hispanic woman.

Probably New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez.

[Cleita]

51. To whom Shrub 2, or the Walker?

[CTyankee]

52. If this is so, the pukes must hate her because she is a woman and she's smarter than they are.

She should switch parties, if only for her own self interest...

[robertpaulsen]

53. I think that's the Koch brothers' manipulation.

I was wondering why, last weekend, did the Koch brothers invite her to their Dana Point retreat? There were only four other candidates invited: Bush, Walker, Rubio and Cruz. Bush and Walker are legitimate contenders for the nom, Rubio and Cruz outside chances. Fiorina has no chance for the nomination. She's polling consistently at one or zero percent.

So why was she invited? I believe they were auditioning her as a potential VP candidate. If the Faux talking heads are raving, we know where they get their talking points, so I guess she passed the audition.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

75. Yes...noticed it weeks ago. She's totally obnoxious but she is pretty quick with

comebacks.

Her first husband pretty much thinks she's a fake

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3156767/White-House-hopeful-Carly-Fiorina-s-claims-motherhood-secretary-CEO-rise-fire-ex-husband-ridicules-calculating-tragic-stepdaughter-s-mom-says.html

[davidpdx]

62. i think it's a strong possibility

They might try it as a gimmick to get women voters. Won't work though.

[Betty Karlson]

65. Maybe so, but like the Cariboo Barbie

she won't be of uch help on top of an out-of-touch ticket with a shrinking base.

Fiorina certainly won't be able to secure her home state, like Palin did.

[olddots]

74. If not a Kardashian

maybe a Jenner. ( okay that was uncalled for )