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A key witness to the Trayvon Martin shooting changed the story he had given Sanford, Fla., police, telling state authorities he was not sure who was screaming during the altercation with George Zimmerman, NBC Dateline confirmed Friday.
The man known as Witness #6 originally told Sanford police Zimmerman cried for help. The witness stuck to his account that he saw Martin, 17, straddling Zimmerman and pinning him to the ground before Martin was shot.
On March 20, according to the Orlando Sentinel, while sitting for a follow-up interview by a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigator the witness said that he was no longer sure who was calling for help.
"At first, I thought it was the person on the ground, just because, you know, me thinking rationally, if someone was on top, the person on the bottom would be yelling," he said, according to the Sentinel. "I truly can't tell who, after thinking about it, was yelling for help just because it was so dark out on that sidewalk. You can't see a mouth
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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/18/11761522-key-witness-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-changed-story?lite
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Wouldn't this change of story also cast doubt on the credibility of that part of the account?
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)flood lights on them and you could see Zimmy pounding Trayon. Yet this little creepy guy is going to walk. Wait and see. We are slowly being prepared for it. I just hope it doesn't start a race riot and people get killed. The Martin family deserves better then this. It is sad. All these stand by laws is nothing more then legalized shooting of minorities. That isn't right.
Quixote1818
(28,955 posts)The prosecution has pointed this out several times as key. Basically the jury will have to throw out anything Zimmerman has said because its all over the place and they will paint him as a lier. It will depend on the kind of jury they end up with.
They only need to get him with man slaughter, they don't need the murder 2. They have the option for both.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)he really went overboard.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I don't know if that translates to he wanted to kill him or not. He might have just been out looking for someone to call 911 on. And we know for a fact that he definitely did call 911 and was told that he didn't need to be following Trayvon. We also know for a fact he was carrying a gun. He may have been carrying it for protection, but it is just as likely he was carrying it spoiling for a fight.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)I am willing to bet a million bucks that Zimmy wishes he had listened to the operator.
Quixote1818
(28,955 posts)They just logically assumed it was the guy on the bottom. So it probably was Trayvon yelling for help as he was punching Zimmerman because he was scared to death and defending himself.
IcyPeas
(21,901 posts)Trayvon Martin's own father said it was not him yelling for help, Trayvon's mother said it was. The lawyers are going to have a field day with so many stories being out there.
Neither said the voice was that of 17-year-old Martin, the New York Times reports. Zimmermans father said he thought the voice belonged to his son. Martins mother, however, has said it was her son who was screaming on the tapes. An analysis by an FBI lab was not able to make an identification; nor was it able to determine whether Zimmerman uttered a racial slur while pursuing Martin, whom he considered to be suspicious.
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/trayvon_martins_dad_told_police_the_person_crying_for_help_on_911_tapes_was/
Quixote1818
(28,955 posts)My impression from the police report was the father was in denial because it was such a painful experience. Later on the father said it was his son. Also, most of the witnesses describe the cries as being from a "boy" and the other voice that initiated things as being gruff and loud.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)It is possible that the jury will become confused, and refuse to convict under the "beyond a reasonable doubt standard," or at least one of the jurors will refuse to convict resulting in a hung jury.
I believe that Zimmerman is morally responsible for Trayvon's death and, if there is a "higher power," will have to answer for what he did eventually.
But it is hard to see how this is all going to play out at trial under the rules of procedure and the evidentiary rules.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... it is possible to SCIENTIFICALLY using the RECORDINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE to determine with CERTAINTY who was screaming for help.
I'm virtually certain this is so. All of this witness bullshit is irrelevant.